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Goal verification line, change to net OK'd by NHL

Posted on: September 20, 2011 3:16 pm
Edited on: September 20, 2011 3:50 pm
 

By Brian Stubits

There has been a late addition to the changes for the upcomming season as the NHL Board of Governors was given conditional approval to implement the verification line in the goal as well as a plastic skirt and a thinner mesh for the net. This is according to TSN in Canada.

The line is expected to be in place by the start of the regular season in all venues whereas the changes to the net will take a few months to prepare, assuming the NHLPA gives its consent, which is likely.

The verification line is a second line that sits inside the goal zone designed to help review officials determine if the puck fully crossed into the goal. The concept is that if the puck touches the green second line, then you know the goal is good.

The idea was tested at the Research and Development Camp earlier this summer and that carried over into the preseason game between the Maple Leafs and Senators last night.

It is unlikely to save us from any more reviews on goals, it's just supposed to help the officials more easily determine goal or no goal. My initial reaction left me wondering what the difference is in the puck touching a second line or not touching the first line. But then when you realize the red line has a tendency to bleed while the green line will be actually in the ice, it makes more sense. The line will remain straight. The additions of the thinner mesh and plastic apron that will make the big difference in the visiblity.

Here is a little more explanation on the goal verification line from the R&D camp. The shallower nets will not be instituted yet, perhaps not for another year or two until it gets full approval from the NHL and NHLPA.

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Since: Dec 2, 2011
Posted on: December 15, 2011 8:19 pm
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Since: May 7, 2008
Posted on: September 29, 2011 12:35 pm
 

Goal verification line, change to net OK'd by NHL

devs 91, how can you say you watch the NHL all the time, but not remember this being a problem?  Several times a year a goalie will cover the puck as it's crossing the goal line and you can see the side of the puck going across the line, but you can't see the other side of the puck completely cross the goal line.  If the referee can't see the puck cross the line they can't call it a goal even if it's pretty evident.  The green line allows them to call it a goal without having to see the puck completely cross over the goal line because if it touches the green line it must be completely across the goal line.



Since: May 7, 2008
Posted on: September 29, 2011 12:32 pm
 

Goal verification line, change to net OK'd by NHL

Stat Boy, you failed to explain why the red line isn't as clear as the green line.  I understand the concept behind using the green line, that wasn't what I was questioning.  I want to know why the physical line for the goal line isn't as clear in the ice and tends to run.  If the green line can be clear and crisp, why can't the red goal line?  And for the poster talking about the puck being on edge, obviously the green line is only there as another point of reference.  The puck does not have to touch the green line to be a goal, but if the puck does touch the green line it must be a goal.  It is just another way for the referee to verify the puck crossing the red goal line if the part of the puck closest to the goal line is not visible.  That means that if the referee couldn't see the puck crossing the goal line completely it couldn't be a goal prior to the green line.  With the green line, however, the referee can look for the puck completely crossing the red goal line and OR touching the green verification line.




Since: May 22, 2011
Posted on: September 22, 2011 1:22 pm
 

Goal verification line, change to net OK'd by NHL

Concerning the new puck line, I watch the NHL all the time and fail to remeber there being this great problem of not being able to figure out whether the puck has crossed the line or not.The replay booth has done a fine job in the past in this area.. Again the rules committee is just making something out of nothing. I guess to justify that they are on the job.



Since: May 22, 2011
Posted on: September 22, 2011 1:14 pm
 

Goal verification line, change to net OK'd by NHL

The worst thing about the NHL is that they continue to make stupid uneccessary tweaks to the game,THe game is FINE !. You never see this constant need for change in Baseball every Year. Since at least the mid 90's I have had to worry every season about what lame brained rule or gimmick they are going to come up with to change the great game of hockey...And NO, the game is not better today then it has been in the past. In the crease rule/not in the crease rule. Move the nets forward/move the nets back..glowingpuck/non-glowing puck.This is alll a joke. LEAVE the NETS alone. RESIST the impulse for constant changes NHL....and get rid of the ridiculous shootout!!



Since: Sep 4, 2011
Posted on: September 22, 2011 12:03 pm
 

Goal verification line, change to net OK'd by NHL

Seems like a bunch of logical, simple, and well thought out adjustments.



Since: Jul 9, 2009
Posted on: September 21, 2011 4:33 pm
 

Goal verification line, change to net OK'd by NHL

Clarification of my last post: "they'll know it is"--i.e., a good goal.



Since: Jul 9, 2009
Posted on: September 21, 2011 4:29 pm
 

Goal verification line, change to net OK'd by NHL

I'm not absolutely sure I see the point of this. If the puck is "x" number of inches or centimeters beyond the goal line, then it must be a goal--green line or no green line. When they review a goal, don't they know where the goal line is from the camera angle, and measure from there?  Well, I guess this would reduce the need to measure, and I guess it can't do any harm.

The green line being BEHIND the red line would mean the red line is NO LONGER the scoring point since the puck has to touch the green line.

No, I don't think the article says that; it's just saying that if it does touch the green line it's definitely a goal.  It might still be a goal without touching the green line, since the puck might be on edge, say.  In such a situation, I assume they're not automatically going to rule "no goal" just because it doesn't touch the green line--but if it does touch the green line, they'll know it is.
A sensor of some kind in the puck and/or a laser in the net seems like it would be better. That way you can electronically tell if the beam was broken
That wouldn't work unless it told you that the puck had completely crossed the line, not just partially.  Actually, when I first skimmed the article I thought they were saying that the green line itself would have a sensor, but I guess not.



Since: Jun 20, 2007
Posted on: September 21, 2011 3:43 pm
 

Goal verification line, change to net OK'd by NHL

The greenline is set back into the net because from time to time, the overhead view of the red line is blocked by the crossbar. Setting the green line back into the net ensures that the view of THIS line will not be blocked.
The distance between the back of the red line and the front of the green line is the exact diameter of a puck. Therefore, in order to be entirely across the red goal line, the puck would also have to touch the front of the greenline.
Your point would be accurate if the conditions for scoring were the same as football. In football, however, you must merely "break the plane", while in hockey, the puck must cross the red line entirely.




Since: Sep 11, 2006
Posted on: September 21, 2011 3:14 pm
 

Goal verification line, change to net OK'd by NHL

Since the red line is similar to the goalline in Football/ Soccer then their logic is flawed. The green line being BEHIND the red line would mean the red line is NO LONGER the scoring point since the puck has to touch the green line. I agree with the other guy a sturdy sensor in the puck and net would be far superior to this scheme. I could be wrong since I only follow the playoffs and not much else when it comes to hockey but still a green line behind the redline to prove a goal? It makes me wonder how much money was wasted on this idea? There has to be a better idea, there just has to be. LOL! 


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