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It's a trap: Tampa Bay's system under attack

Posted on: November 10, 2011 1:28 pm
Edited on: November 10, 2011 2:59 pm
 
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By: Adam Gretz

The highest scoring team in the NHL (the Philadelphia Flyers) played a Tampa Bay Lightning team on Wednesday night that featured the most prolific goal-scorer in the league over the past two seasons (Steven Stamkos) and a former MVP (Martin St. Louis). That should result in an exciting game with a lot of goals, scoring chances and back-and-forth play, right? Wrong.

The highlight (or lowlight) of the night, as well as the biggest talking point in the NHL on Thursday morning, is how the game, which Tampa Bay won in overtime, 2-1, had all the excitement of paint drying due to the Lightning's commitment to its 1-3-1 system, and the Flyers' unwillingness to attack it.

If you haven't already seen it, multiple times throughout the game, especially during the first period, the Flyers' defensemen, including Chris Pronger and Braydon Coburn, refused to skate the puck out of their own zone and waited for the Lightning's forecheckers to make the first move.

When that didn't happen, the result was a stalemate unlike any other

And this was a game that was played on national television. That can not be what the NHL wants, and most of the negative reaction has been directed at the Lightning and coach Guy Boucher for playing such a style of hockey.

Versus analyst Mike Milbury, for example, left the set during the second intermission of Wednesday's game in "protest" (though, his night was probably over at that point anyway), while the discussion of whether or not the NHL needs to implement some form of "shot clock" to prevent a team from not advancing the puck the way Philadelphia did has been kicked off.


Depending on your rooting interest you probably have a different idea as to who the winners and losers were in this game. If you're a Lightning fan you're probably happy (and rightfully so) because your team won the game. Flyers fans -- and the Flyers themselves -- seem to be taking great pride in the fact that they embarrassed the Lightning by essentially calling out their style of play and shining some light on how boring the neutral zone trap is (though, we didn't need the Flyers to prove that to us -- we knew that based on watching hockey between 1995 and 2005).

Take, for example, the words of Pronger, via Tim Panaccio of CSNPhilly:
“Would you pay money to see that? I wouldn’t either and that was a [VERSUS] TV game, too. Way to showcase the product. Look at the players they got over there.
 
“That’s not my job. Maybe Shanny [Brendan Shanahan] should take charge of that, too. I don’t know.
 
“That is the way they play there all the time, whether it’s us or anybody. If they get down, they go into a two-man forecheck. We were just waiting for them to come in. Force them out of their forecheck or whatever that was. They weren’t forchecking. Their stance, I guess.
 
“That was their game right there. We were making them look bad. That’s not hockey in my book, but whatever. The league is letting them do it.”
Of course the league is "letting them do it," because there's nothing in the rule book that says a team can't play a certain type of defensive system. And as far as the "making them look bad" is concerned, it should again be pointed out that Tampa Bay did, in fact, win the hockey game, which is still the ultimate goal.

Tampa Bay doesn't pride itself on winning games in style, because if it did, it wouldn't be playing the 1-3-1 to begin with. So it's doubtful the Lightning are going to apologize for the boring manner in which they win games. And they aren't.

"We're sticking to the game plan," said Boucher, via the St. Pete Times. "When we have the puck we're aggressive with it, and when we don't have the puck we dedicate ourselves to being above the puck instead of chasing from behind. It tells me guys are buying in."

Sabres coach Lindy Ruff chimed in on Thursday and according to John Vogl condoned Tampa Bay's style of play, but did add that there has to be an obligation to try and get the puck if the other team has it.

There also has to be an obligation for the team with the puck to move it.

As a hockey fan, of course I would prefer to see a more offensive game that highlights the skill of the players on the ice, so I can't say that I love the way Tampa Bay plays. I certainly respect it, and I respect the way players have obviously bought into Boucher's system, but it is boring. But I also don't want to see anything that would limit their ability to play that style of hockey or restrict a players' on-ice movements, such as the type of "illegal defense" rules the NBA has attempted over the years, mainly because I'm not sure how you enforce it, and also because the referees have enough to worry about without trying to identify what system a team is playing.

I don't blame the Lightning for what took place Wednesday night, and focussing on Tampa Bay seems to overlook the fact that just about every team in the NHL plays some variation of the trap -- it's just that the Lightning's is different from all the others. Still, when the Flyers have the puck the onus is on them to advance it, play the game, and figure out a way to exit their own zone, navigate through the neutral zone and enter the offensive zone. They chose not to do that.

And let's not act like the Lightning and their system, no matter how committed they are to it, are impossible to score against. Last season they allowed 155 goals during 5-on-5 play (when they would have been playing their system). Only 12 teams in the NHL allowed more. So far this season they've allowed 33 goals during 5-on-5 play, which is the fourth most in the NHL (only Ottawa, Carolina and Philadelphia have allowed more).

You can score against them. The only way you're guaranteed to not score against them is if you make no effort.

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Comments

Since: Aug 21, 2006
Posted on: November 10, 2011 7:20 pm
 

It's a trap: Tampa Bay's system under attack

Doesn't matter to me. I grew up in the neutral zone trap era and have always loved hockey. I don't mind if teams trap. It's not at all boring to me.



Since: Jun 12, 2009
Posted on: November 10, 2011 6:29 pm
 

It's a trap: Tampa Bay's system under attack

Tampa's current system, much like New Jersey's old system, will do nothing but hurt the game in the long run.  This is the kind of thing that drives the casual fan away and makes it difficult to grow the sport.  There's a reason Edmonton & Gretzky were so successful in helping to grow the sport back in the day.  The played an exciting style that people wanted to watch.


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Since: Nov 10, 2011
Posted on: November 10, 2011 3:34 pm
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Since: Apr 22, 2008
Posted on: November 10, 2011 2:43 pm
 

It's a trap: Tampa Bay's system under attack

Both teams are at fault.
Yes Philly did not advance, but as they sat there so did TB.
No matter what you say about one you can say about the other.
The fact that TB wants to make the game a defensive battle with a trap is pathetic.
Yes flyers have Giroux, Jagr, Briere.
But TB has Lacavier, Stamkos, St. Louis.
Reminded me of the Devils back in the 90's. 
Terrible boring hockey, due to the trap.  Flyers just showed the world how boring it is.
We do not have to advance the puck.
They do not have to forecheck.
Hence...last night.



Since: Nov 10, 2011
Posted on: November 10, 2011 2:29 pm
 

It's a trap: Tampa Bay's system under attack

Take, for example, the words of Pronger, :
“Would you pay money to see that? I wouldn’t either and that was a [VERSUS] TV game, too. Way to showcase the product. Look at the players they got over there. 
 
“That’s not my job. Maybe Shanny [Brendan Shanahan] should take charge of that, too. I don’t know. 
 
“That is the way they play there all the time, whether it’s us or anybody. If they get down, they go into a two-man forecheck. We were just waiting for them to come in. Force them out of their forecheck or whatever that was. They weren’t forchecking. Their stance, I guess. 

“That was their game right there. We were making them look bad. That’s not hockey in my book, but whatever. The league is letting them do it.” 

 Are you serious Pronger? just made you guys look like the losers you  are. I was there it was ridiculous  to have a team with players like Pronger and jagr the only team that looked stupid was you. I lost total respect for the Flyers. Should rename the team the Philadelphia pussies.
 

“That was their game right there. We were making them look bad. That’s not hockey in my book, but whatever. The league is letting them do it.”
                        that was your game you sissy-girls were scared. The league is letting you pussies do it. We were ready for you guys but you were scared.
 



Since: Oct 18, 2006
Posted on: November 10, 2011 2:04 pm
 

It's a trap: Tampa Bay's system under attack

In no way should the defense EVER be made to force the action.  The defense reacts to offense and stops them from scoring.  Philly is COMPLETELY at fault here.

It is amazing to me the number of "NEW" defenses that pop up over the yers in the NFL and teams have trouble with them but eventually they break

A new defense pops up in the NHL and Philly, and many others, whine because they can't run their plays due to the fact that the play was predicated on the forward applying pressure.  WWHAAAAAAAAAAAHHH

Design a  better offensive scheme to comabt it.


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