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No suspension for Milan Lucic

Posted on: November 14, 2011 4:03 pm
Edited on: November 14, 2011 10:05 pm

By: Adam Gretz

Boston Bruins forward Milan Lucic had a meeting with Brendan Shanahan, the NHL's vice president of player safety, on Monday afternoon to discuss the play that took place on Saturday night against the Buffalo Sabres when Lucic hit goaltender Ryan Miller after he came out of the crease to play a loose puck.

Following Shanahan's review, as well as his discussion with Lucic, it was determined that the Bruins forward will not face any supplemental discipline.

Despite the calls from fans to allow goalies to be hit when the leave their crease, goalies are not "fair game" when they exit the blue paint. The NHL rule book states that incidental contact may be permitted at the referee's discretion when the goalie is playing the puck outside of his crease, as long the skater makes a reasonable effort to avoid the contact.
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Said Shanahan, via the league's official web site, "I had the hearing because I did make an initial assessment of the play as I do with all plays, but I did have some questions for Milan and I wanted to hear directly from him. They were regarding his intent; at what point did he know there was going to be a collision; and whether or not he felt he had the time to avoid the collision. I was satisfied with his answers."

Lucic received a two-minute minor for charging, while it was later revealed that Miller suffered a concussion and will not be in the crease when the Sabres visit the Montreal Canadiens on Monday.

Miller was livid following the game and was brutally honest when it came his post-game comments, saying "I just stuck around because I wanted to say what a piece of [feces] I think Lucic is."

Bruins GM Peter Chiarelli released a statement relaying his pleasure not only with the NHL's decision, but Lucic not responding to Miller's postgame remarks.

"We are satisfied with the NHL's announcement that there will be no suspension or fine for Milan, and we respect the process that the League took to reach this decision.

"I am also proud that Milan took the high road, and chose not to engage in an exchange of words after the unfortunate comments that were made about him following the game."

The "statement" from Sabres coach Lindy Ruff was decidedly different.

“It just means that teams will be to able do exactly what Lucic did,” Ruff told reporters before Buffalo's game in Montreal. “Your goaltender can play the puck, we can run him over, we can hurt him and all you get is a two-minute minor penalty.

“That is essentially what that means -- You can concuss the other team's goalkeeper ... it means it's fair game on goaltenders again."

Shanahan wasn't on board with the idea that the decision opened pandora's box on goalies across the league, instead condeming Ruff and the Sabres.

"I think Buffalo's comments are irresponsible to suggest that it's open season," Shanahan said at the Hockey Hall of Fame induction ceremony. "I will have this warning for players: `It's not. If you run a goalie you're going to find yourself in the same situation that Lucic was today, you're going to have to explain yourself and you don't explain it sufficiently, and if I don't buy it, you're going to be suspended."'

The Sabres and Bruins meet again on Nov. 23.

The play has been a hot topic of discussion around the league, and on Monday Toronto Maple Leafs coach Ron Wilson, who coached Miller at the 2010 Olympics in Vancouver, wondered if the NHL should be doing more to protect goalies. Here's what he had to say from James Mirtle of the Globe and Mail:

"It'll be interesting to see the direction the league's going to go. There's no white papers out there to describe that kind of an injury or hit with regards to goaltenders. If it was a defenceman, you'd say that it was a clean hit.

"However, a goaltender's more or less defenceless in some of those situations. They're not wearing the same type of equipment, they're not built to absorb a 250-pound freight train running you over. Whereas a defenceman may. That's the debate that's going to go on in the next couple of days. Should we be protecting goaltenders?"

Wilson's team has been without its starting goalie, James Reimer, for nearly a month after he took a hit to the head while standing in his crease in a game against the Montreal Canadiens back in October. The NHL general managers meetings are scheduled to start on Tuesday, and while this isn't a subject that was planned on being discussed, it wouldn't be a shock if it makes its way into the conversation at some point.

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Since: Aug 22, 2006
Posted on: November 16, 2011 12:47 am

No suspension for Milan Lucic

hey idiot sabs21....the only thing that matters about ALL of this, is that it was simply a 2 min penalty and Lucic got called for it. crosby makes ZERo POINTS.......THE only point is, 2 min minor, no suspention. Shanahan agrees. ill go with him over you or crosby or the crying sabres fans.grow a pair, this is hockey, not figure skating!!

Since: Sep 7, 2006
Posted on: November 15, 2011 10:21 pm

No suspension for Milan Lucic

Then explain the non-suspensions for the Chara hit on Pacioretty,
Ancient history.

the Boychuk hit on Raymond,

I watched that hit a couple of times. It was a wierd hit, it wasn't dirty, it wasn't vicious. It was just wierd. I honestly don't think Boychuk was trying to hurt the guy.

Look, there are a lot of questionable hits out there. There's also been a handful of suspensions, ranging from 1 to 8 games, but the majority of the suspensions have been from 2 to 5 games. Check out this link:

It's got some good video of some vicious hits that have gone on so far. Those are what people get suspended for.

I'm not here to argue with you. You think he should've been suspended, I don't. This time Shanahan agrees with me. I wasn't even going respond to you after your "I'm done with you Boston homers" comment... Then you came back again... and again... Now, for real, I'm done with this conversation.

Since: Sep 7, 2006
Posted on: November 15, 2011 10:05 pm

No suspension for Milan Lucic

Crosby - you didn't tear apart squat. You want to go over how you "tore up my points?"

First of all, Pathfinder, lets not talk about ancient history. No Pens fans have ever defended Cooke.
If you think Matt Cooke is ancient history then you've been following hockey for all of 5 years. Two years ago isn't ancient history. Samuelson isn't even ancient history. You want ancient? Talk to me about the Penguins of the 70's, I'll give you ancient history for that. Here's where you missed the relevancy though, Matt Cooke's a cheap shot artist, pure and simple. That's not ancient history, who does he play for right now? That's right, the Pittsburgh Penguins. My point, which you obviously missed, is that every team has dirty players on it. Whether Lucic is that dirty player you're talking about is up for debate, but the bottom line is there's no NHL fan that can call out another team without taking a good long look in the mirror. Dude, I've been a bruins fan since Bobby Orr was there, Terry O'reilly go into the stands after fans - at an AWAY game. We've all watched them, we've all rooted for them.

I don't care if Shanny was the all-time leader in minutes and penalties, he's been woefully inconsistent in his suspensions and the Bruins have been the beneficiaries
First of all, Shanny's been the NHL VP for all of five months. How, exactly, have the Bruins been the beneficiaries of his "woefully inconsistent" suspensions? We're a total of 16 games into the NHL season. What's gone on in the last two months that has made Shanahan so woefully inconsistent. In case you've forgotten your "ancient history", Colin Campbell held Shanahan's position just 5 months ago.

Next time you post, try using some logic and respond to the actual previous comments instead of bringing up unrelated ancient history and touting the qualifications of the league disciplinarian.
How about next time you post, try using some knowledge instead of just making stuff up?

Since: Nov 15, 2006
Posted on: November 15, 2011 7:30 pm

No suspension for Milan Lucic

Open season on Shanahan.  Brendan was a pu$$y when he played.  Dirty little pice of $hit too.  I saw him take a players helmet off so he could get in a cheap shot in a fight and then run away like a little girl.  And he is handing out discipline...

Since: Jun 12, 2009
Posted on: November 15, 2011 2:42 pm

No suspension for Milan Lucic

The best comment on this incident came from Kevin Weekes.  You can tell the Lucic hit was intentional by the s#!t eating grin he had on his way to the box and the fact that he made NO reasonable attempt to avoid contact.

Since: Nov 15, 2011
Posted on: November 15, 2011 12:22 pm
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Since: Mar 9, 2008
Posted on: November 15, 2011 10:52 am
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Since: Dec 11, 2006
Posted on: November 15, 2011 10:42 am

No suspension for Milan Lucic

Let me put it this way.....if the EXACT same scenario happened but instead it was Kaleta leveling Thomas.....subsequently resulting in Tim being out indefinately with a concussion....would Kaleta have been suspended?  Would people say it was a fair hit?  Shanny and the NHL is a joke.

Since: Apr 21, 2009
Posted on: November 15, 2011 10:36 am

No suspension for Milan Lucic

Hey there sissy, I'll call you anything I want. AFTERALL, I am the Lizard King, I can do anything. You, you've given yourself the moniker of sister, so I'll just call you sissy for short if I so choose. Don't like it, come up to Buffalo and give me a cheap shot.....

people only LEAVE Buffalo, broseph. they never "go there".


Since: Apr 24, 2008
Posted on: November 15, 2011 8:35 am

No suspension for Milan Lucic

You people kill me. You can tell who are the 19 year old kids sitting in their college dorm room typing stuff just to be confrontational. Like this miami guy who keeps going at it with crosby, seriously you can see through your act. Guy is making good points but you disagree just to be a punk.

This is such an easy situation for anyone that has been watching hockey for a long time. Your best and most marketable player has been out of hockey for a year due to concussions, and don't think for one second that all these head shot rules and suspensions aren't because of losing Sid from the game. Now you knock probably the most popular U.S. player out of the game with a cheap and dirty hit (albeit not completely illegally....that part is debatable) and this does nothing but open up a huge can of worms.

Shannahan asking Lucic what his intentions were is a complete joke which opens up another big can of worms. Since when does intentions play into possible suspensions? I thought it was results based? So guys can say that they didn't mean to hit someone in the head and it will be ok? Shame on Shannahan. Everyone knows it was avoidable by Lucic. Quite frankly I don't blame Lucic, he saw an opportunity to make a statement and he took it. That wouldn't have happened in the days of Rob Ray, Barnaby, Brad May, Bobby Boughner, Kevin McGuire, Mike Hartman. There would've been a blood bath and you know what, very entertaining.

Yes everyone who is saying the Sabres were soft and wusses are 100% correct. A complete embarassment for the team and the city. Nobody is pounding them worse than the fans and the media around here. Bottom line is the Sabres dropped the ball and Shanahan dropped the ball.

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