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No suspension for Milan Lucic

Posted on: November 14, 2011 4:03 pm
Edited on: November 14, 2011 10:05 pm
 


By: Adam Gretz


Boston Bruins forward Milan Lucic had a meeting with Brendan Shanahan, the NHL's vice president of player safety, on Monday afternoon to discuss the play that took place on Saturday night against the Buffalo Sabres when Lucic hit goaltender Ryan Miller after he came out of the crease to play a loose puck.

Following Shanahan's review, as well as his discussion with Lucic, it was determined that the Bruins forward will not face any supplemental discipline.

Despite the calls from fans to allow goalies to be hit when the leave their crease, goalies are not "fair game" when they exit the blue paint. The NHL rule book states that incidental contact may be permitted at the referee's discretion when the goalie is playing the puck outside of his crease, as long the skater makes a reasonable effort to avoid the contact.
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Said Shanahan, via the league's official web site, "I had the hearing because I did make an initial assessment of the play as I do with all plays, but I did have some questions for Milan and I wanted to hear directly from him. They were regarding his intent; at what point did he know there was going to be a collision; and whether or not he felt he had the time to avoid the collision. I was satisfied with his answers."

Lucic received a two-minute minor for charging, while it was later revealed that Miller suffered a concussion and will not be in the crease when the Sabres visit the Montreal Canadiens on Monday.

Miller was livid following the game and was brutally honest when it came his post-game comments, saying "I just stuck around because I wanted to say what a piece of [feces] I think Lucic is."

Bruins GM Peter Chiarelli released a statement relaying his pleasure not only with the NHL's decision, but Lucic not responding to Miller's postgame remarks.

"We are satisfied with the NHL's announcement that there will be no suspension or fine for Milan, and we respect the process that the League took to reach this decision.

"I am also proud that Milan took the high road, and chose not to engage in an exchange of words after the unfortunate comments that were made about him following the game."

The "statement" from Sabres coach Lindy Ruff was decidedly different.

“It just means that teams will be to able do exactly what Lucic did,” Ruff told reporters before Buffalo's game in Montreal. “Your goaltender can play the puck, we can run him over, we can hurt him and all you get is a two-minute minor penalty.

“That is essentially what that means -- You can concuss the other team's goalkeeper ... it means it's fair game on goaltenders again."

Shanahan wasn't on board with the idea that the decision opened pandora's box on goalies across the league, instead condeming Ruff and the Sabres.

"I think Buffalo's comments are irresponsible to suggest that it's open season," Shanahan said at the Hockey Hall of Fame induction ceremony. "I will have this warning for players: `It's not. If you run a goalie you're going to find yourself in the same situation that Lucic was today, you're going to have to explain yourself and you don't explain it sufficiently, and if I don't buy it, you're going to be suspended."'

The Sabres and Bruins meet again on Nov. 23.

The play has been a hot topic of discussion around the league, and on Monday Toronto Maple Leafs coach Ron Wilson, who coached Miller at the 2010 Olympics in Vancouver, wondered if the NHL should be doing more to protect goalies. Here's what he had to say from James Mirtle of the Globe and Mail:

"It'll be interesting to see the direction the league's going to go. There's no white papers out there to describe that kind of an injury or hit with regards to goaltenders. If it was a defenceman, you'd say that it was a clean hit.

"However, a goaltender's more or less defenceless in some of those situations. They're not wearing the same type of equipment, they're not built to absorb a 250-pound freight train running you over. Whereas a defenceman may. That's the debate that's going to go on in the next couple of days. Should we be protecting goaltenders?"

Wilson's team has been without its starting goalie, James Reimer, for nearly a month after he took a hit to the head while standing in his crease in a game against the Montreal Canadiens back in October. The NHL general managers meetings are scheduled to start on Tuesday, and while this isn't a subject that was planned on being discussed, it wouldn't be a shock if it makes its way into the conversation at some point.

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Brian Stubits contributed to this story

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Comments

Since: Feb 3, 2011
Posted on: November 15, 2011 2:43 am
 

No suspension for Milan Lucic

yes, maybe you should watch the video again.....the annoncers both had it right...rule 48, blindside hit to a vulnerable player.....thats why rule 48 was put in....try listening to the guys calling the game. so YOU know more then the league and guys calling the game??
So now you are getting your information from announcers? That's brilliant.

Here, I'll help you out since you are incapable of helping yourself:

Mike Murphy, the NHL's senior vice president of hockey operations, agreed the hit would have been legal if it hadn't been late. But given its timing and Horton's subsequent injury, the NHL determined Rome would miss the rest of the series.

"I thought it was a late hit," Murphy said. "I thought that the body was contacted, but I also thought that the head was hit. It caused a serious injury to Nathan Horton. ... This has nothing to do with Rule 48. This is just an interference penalty, an interference hit. If it was immediate after he released the puck, it would be a legal hit. We have them all the time."

More facts to your zero facts and false claims.

yea id say knocking Horton out of the rest of the series was pretty egregious.
The injury should not determine the follow-up discipline. If that were the case, then you should be arguing for Lucic to be suspended because his illegal hit resulted in Miller's concussion. So which is it? You can't have it both ways.

i'm sorry, where in the rule does it state that it matters where the goalie is on the ice other than "outside the goal crease"? Oh yeah, it doesn't. There you go making crap up again. Whatever you can think of to support your faulty argument, right?
where did i argue about the hit NOT being a penalty dumb-dumb?? i didnt. it WAS a penalty, you CANT hit the goalie, and Lucic got his 2 min minor. simple as that.

and this has nothing to do with running a goalie whose in the crease or gathers a puck behind the net. Miller came wayyyyyyy out, halfway to the blue line
Excuse me, but where did I say that you were trying to say that it wasn't a penalty "dumb-dumb"? Oh yeah, I didn't. I was asking you why it matters. It doens't. So why did you say it, moron? Because you thought it sounded good. Because you're a moron.

It is not the goalie's responsibility to avoid collisions if they are either playing the puck or have just played the puck.
i know its not but if he wants to protect himself, guess what, MOVE out of the way of the big man or possibly get hurt and draw a penalty, he chose to not move as did Lucic.
Beside the point. If Lucic makes an attempt to avoid Miller as he is supposed to do, both by the written rule and the unwritten rule, there is most likely only a minor collision (if any at all) with no concussion. Again, the onus is on Lucic to avoid the collision, not Miller. That's why they have it in the rule book. Don't blame the victim.

If you believe that, seriously, you are just lost. you believe in fixed games and all that then huh? please. Shanahan has no obligation topwards campbell and never played for the Bruins. wake up dude.
Then explain the non-suspensions for the Chara hit on Pacioretty, the Boychuk hit on Raymond, the Seidenberg boarding of Skinner, and now the Lucic running of Miller. And you still haven't effectively argued that the suspension of Rome for 4 games in the SCF was legitimate.



Since: Aug 22, 2006
Posted on: November 15, 2011 2:13 am
 

No suspension for Milan Lucic

Oh, so a late hit is determined by distance traveled between release of the puck and the hit? Wow, you are a wealth of hockey knowledge. Here's a suggestion: Quit while you're behind.
yes, maybe you should watch the video again.....the annoncers both had it right...rule 48, blindside hit to a vulnerable player.....thats why rule 48 was put in....try listening to the guys calling the game. so YOU know more then the league and guys calling the game?? lol, and there NOT bruins announcers.

REALLY egregious.
yea id say knocking Horton out of the rest of the series was pretty egregious.


i'm sorry, where in the rule does it state that it matters where the goalie is on the ice other than "outside the goal crease"? Oh yeah, it doesn't. There you go making crap up again. Whatever you can think of to support your faulty argument, right?
where did i argue about the hit NOT being a penalty dumb-dumb?? i didnt. it WAS a penalty, you CANT hit the goalie, and Lucic got his 2 min minor. simple as that.

It is not the goalie's responsibility to avoid collisions if they are either playing the puck or have just played the puck.
i know its not but if he wants to protect himself, guess what, MOVE out of the way of the big man or possibly get hurt and draw a penalty, he chose to not move as did Lucic.

He knows how to follow the league mandate from Papa Campbell et al to show outright favoritism toward the Bruins.
If you believe that, seriously, you are just lost. you believe in fixed games and all that then huh? please. Shanahan has no obligation topwards campbell and never played for the Bruins. wake up dude.



Since: Feb 3, 2011
Posted on: November 15, 2011 1:55 am
 

No suspension for Milan Lucic

Oh, so a late hit is determined by distance traveled between release of the puck and the hit? Wow, you are a wealth of hockey knowledge. Here's a suggestion: Quit while you're behind.

If you were something other than a novice, you would know that suspensions in the Stanley Cup Finals are both rare and only reserved for the most egregious acts. They are not for otherwise-clean-but-half-second-lat

e hits and if you are going to suspend someone for 4 games in the Finals, it had better be REALLY egregious.

I'm sorry, where in the rule does it state that it matters where the goalie is on the ice other than "outside the goal crease"? Oh yeah, it doesn't. There you go making crap up again. Whatever you can think of to support your faulty argument, right?

It is not the goalie's responsibility to avoid collisions if they are either playing the puck or have just played the puck. If Lucic had simply made an attempt to avoid the hit, even if there was a collision, there would have been no penalty. But he decided to go high into Miller, creating a very dangerous play for an elite goalie that resulted in a concussion. The league has turned into a joke. This is exactly the type of play they have been harping on about trying to stamp out and yet they do NOTHING.

You can call me a novice if you want, but it doesn't mean anything. I have given you numerous factual and logical arguments and you and your fellow Bruins fans reply with nonsense. Yes, Shanny knows. He knows how to follow the league mandate from Papa Campbell et al to show outright favoritism toward the Bruins. There is more than ample proof that this is the case.





Since: Aug 22, 2006
Posted on: November 15, 2011 1:28 am
 

No suspension for Milan Lucic

you are a novice, you prove it by your posts. you know nothing. its laughable!!!!
the time means nothing!! LOOK where he releases the puck, halfway between the red and blue line, then doesnt get hit until he reaches the blue line, so yes 3-4 strides that took him halfway between red and blue line to reach the blue line where he was hit......late, and suspendable, thats why the 4 games. the league knew that and most knowledable fans knew it.

and this has nothing to do with running a goalie whose in the crease or gathers a puck behind the net. Miller came wayyyyyyy out, halfway to the blue line and it was a simple collision, that yea Lucic could have avoided by jumping, sliding, diving out of the way BUT Miller also could have avoided it , he chose not to and bammmm the big man ran him down.....2 min pen yes, as per the rule. and thats it. shany knows!



Since: Feb 3, 2011
Posted on: November 15, 2011 12:26 am
 

No suspension for Milan Lucic

Oh, and to reiterate, the LEAGUE said the Rome hit was clean other than being late (look it up if you don't believe me. If you disagree with the league and everyone else, please explain how it was not clean other than being late - I would love to hear it). "Rough sport, son". Rome got 4 games in the SCF because the league has a hardon for the Bruins. Worst suspension by far I've seen in 35 years of watching hockey. But all of these Bruins blatant cheap shots get nothing. The Seidenberg boarding of Skinner didn't even get a review when they were handing out suspensions like candy for boarding.



Since: Jan 2, 2007
Posted on: November 15, 2011 12:25 am
 

No suspension for Milan Lucic

I am a Sabres fan and I am pissed! Lucic is the PoS that Miller called him. I am pissed by the Sabres lack of an appropriate and immediate response on the ice. Lucic got the right penalty according to the rules. Two minutes and no suspension. He DID, however, violate an unwritten rule, and those are enforced on the ice. It SHOULD have been before he and his smirk slinked off to the penalty box. That is a great embarrassment the Sabres must redress. I expect the next game they have against the hockey team from Boston will be "interesting"



Since: Feb 3, 2011
Posted on: November 14, 2011 11:53 pm
 

No suspension for Milan Lucic

Who are you calling "son" you petulant brat? Getting knocked around in the crease is different than running a goalie. If you idiot greenhorns knew anything about hockey, there is both a written rule and an unwritten rule that you don't run the goalie.

Here is the Rome hit - are you actually going to watch it this time or are you going to keep spouting lies?



Pause in the first couple of seconds and you will see that Horton releases the puck with 14:57 showing on the clock and the check is initiated with 14:57 showing on the clock. This is indisputable. There were no "3-4 strides". That is indisputable. So now you are saying that it was not a head shot and just really late? How embarrassing for you that you got caught saying something that wasn't true. Sorry to break it to you, but you are wrong again. Only a half of a second late considering the entire play takes place within a single second and there were no 3-4 strides. But keep believing whatever you want to in the face of video evidence to the contrary. F off, morons.







Since: Jan 17, 2010
Posted on: November 14, 2011 11:41 pm
 

No suspension for Milan Lucic

Enroth really sold one tonight too.   Barely touched and by watching him, you'd think he'd been shot.



Since: Aug 22, 2006
Posted on: November 14, 2011 11:39 pm
 

No suspension for Milan Lucic

you didnt tear apart anything except in your own head you idiot....his points were 100% right and yours are just foolish hatred toward the Bruins....pretty sad. yea its all a fix and the Bruins always get a break LOL.....if you really think that you are a moron.
the facts are , it was a simple 2 min penalty, Shanahan looked it and most sane people know it was just a hockey play. rough sport son, maybe you shouldnt watch and that stuff DOES happen to Thomas, he's always getting knocked around, thing is the Bruins jump anyone who does that crap. and Thomas himself would have totally went after anyone doing that and start swinging.

Rome hit wasnt clean, thats why the 4 games, you need help understanding whats clean and not lol......the time, u say a 1/2 second doesnt mean a thing, go watch it, Horton passes the puck between the red and blue line, takes 3 -4 strides and Rome hits him on the blue line without the puck. how dumb are you?? seriously??



Since: Jan 17, 2010
Posted on: November 14, 2011 11:38 pm
 

No suspension for Milan Lucic

Never heard a coach whine as much as Lindy Ruff.  If a goalie doesn't want to get checked, stay in the damn crease.


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