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No suspension for Milan Lucic

Posted on: November 14, 2011 4:03 pm
Edited on: November 14, 2011 10:05 pm
 


By: Adam Gretz


Boston Bruins forward Milan Lucic had a meeting with Brendan Shanahan, the NHL's vice president of player safety, on Monday afternoon to discuss the play that took place on Saturday night against the Buffalo Sabres when Lucic hit goaltender Ryan Miller after he came out of the crease to play a loose puck.

Following Shanahan's review, as well as his discussion with Lucic, it was determined that the Bruins forward will not face any supplemental discipline.

Despite the calls from fans to allow goalies to be hit when the leave their crease, goalies are not "fair game" when they exit the blue paint. The NHL rule book states that incidental contact may be permitted at the referee's discretion when the goalie is playing the puck outside of his crease, as long the skater makes a reasonable effort to avoid the contact.
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Said Shanahan, via the league's official web site, "I had the hearing because I did make an initial assessment of the play as I do with all plays, but I did have some questions for Milan and I wanted to hear directly from him. They were regarding his intent; at what point did he know there was going to be a collision; and whether or not he felt he had the time to avoid the collision. I was satisfied with his answers."

Lucic received a two-minute minor for charging, while it was later revealed that Miller suffered a concussion and will not be in the crease when the Sabres visit the Montreal Canadiens on Monday.

Miller was livid following the game and was brutally honest when it came his post-game comments, saying "I just stuck around because I wanted to say what a piece of [feces] I think Lucic is."

Bruins GM Peter Chiarelli released a statement relaying his pleasure not only with the NHL's decision, but Lucic not responding to Miller's postgame remarks.

"We are satisfied with the NHL's announcement that there will be no suspension or fine for Milan, and we respect the process that the League took to reach this decision.

"I am also proud that Milan took the high road, and chose not to engage in an exchange of words after the unfortunate comments that were made about him following the game."

The "statement" from Sabres coach Lindy Ruff was decidedly different.

“It just means that teams will be to able do exactly what Lucic did,” Ruff told reporters before Buffalo's game in Montreal. “Your goaltender can play the puck, we can run him over, we can hurt him and all you get is a two-minute minor penalty.

“That is essentially what that means -- You can concuss the other team's goalkeeper ... it means it's fair game on goaltenders again."

Shanahan wasn't on board with the idea that the decision opened pandora's box on goalies across the league, instead condeming Ruff and the Sabres.

"I think Buffalo's comments are irresponsible to suggest that it's open season," Shanahan said at the Hockey Hall of Fame induction ceremony. "I will have this warning for players: `It's not. If you run a goalie you're going to find yourself in the same situation that Lucic was today, you're going to have to explain yourself and you don't explain it sufficiently, and if I don't buy it, you're going to be suspended."'

The Sabres and Bruins meet again on Nov. 23.

The play has been a hot topic of discussion around the league, and on Monday Toronto Maple Leafs coach Ron Wilson, who coached Miller at the 2010 Olympics in Vancouver, wondered if the NHL should be doing more to protect goalies. Here's what he had to say from James Mirtle of the Globe and Mail:

"It'll be interesting to see the direction the league's going to go. There's no white papers out there to describe that kind of an injury or hit with regards to goaltenders. If it was a defenceman, you'd say that it was a clean hit.

"However, a goaltender's more or less defenceless in some of those situations. They're not wearing the same type of equipment, they're not built to absorb a 250-pound freight train running you over. Whereas a defenceman may. That's the debate that's going to go on in the next couple of days. Should we be protecting goaltenders?"

Wilson's team has been without its starting goalie, James Reimer, for nearly a month after he took a hit to the head while standing in his crease in a game against the Montreal Canadiens back in October. The NHL general managers meetings are scheduled to start on Tuesday, and while this isn't a subject that was planned on being discussed, it wouldn't be a shock if it makes its way into the conversation at some point.

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Comments

Since: Feb 17, 2010
Posted on: November 14, 2011 5:51 pm
 

No suspension for Milan Lucic

As a Canuck fan I don't love Lukic - even though he played his junior hockey here.  However in this case he did not deserve extra discipline.  Miller wasn't standing still, he was skating well out of is crease to play the puck.  I don't see how Lukic could have avoided him even if he tried.  The impact was pretty big due to the size disparity, but Miller chose to chase the puck.  Good no call.



Since: Apr 17, 2007
Posted on: November 14, 2011 5:35 pm
 

No suspension for Milan Lucic

Sounds like the same fan base that is complaining about Tampa playing a 1-3-1...
"WAAAHAHAAHAHAHA the refs should have forced tampa to change THEIR system"  "WAHAHAHAHAHAHAH we need a RULE to prevent tampa from doing this"

No, it's not the same fan base, I can assure you, SisterRay.  I agree that those complaining about Tampa's 1-3-1 system are whining... it is legal, not prohibited by the rule book,  and Tampa uses it sporadically to mix up their defense, and it can be effective.


What Lucic did, however, was a blatant and avoidable violation of a rule about the extent of contact with a goalie out side of the crease.  If Lucic is an NHL player, he easily could have minimized his contact with Miller.  

Again, what is in the rule book?



Since: Feb 10, 2007
Posted on: November 14, 2011 5:27 pm
 

No suspension for Milan Lucic

what the sabers should do is stop crying about it.  call up a couple players from the ahl (kassin) for nov 23. pray the bruins are stupid enough the play thomas and run the shit out of him when he is in the crease.  o and when thomas leaves the game casue he is hurt or the briuns fear he will be hurt then do it to rask. then it will be even and we can go back to hockey

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Wanger ... Buffalo had their chance to take care of business in that game and they didn't.   If they wanna INTENTIONALLY try to hurt Thomas IN HIS CREASE, the Bruins would surely take care of business after ... bring it on




Since: Feb 10, 2007
Posted on: November 14, 2011 5:23 pm
 

No suspension for Milan Lucic

It wasn't a head shot ... it wasn't a blind side ... it wasn't boarding someones head into the glass ..  Miller simply roamed too far out of his net on Lucic breaking in and Lucic took his momentum and ran into him.  Lucic got penalized, as he should ... it was not a dirty hit, it wasn't a cheap shot .. it was just a 2 minute minor variety penalty .. end of story.  



Since: Aug 24, 2007
Posted on: November 14, 2011 5:18 pm
 

No suspension for Milan Lucic

what the sabers should do is stop crying about it.  call up a couple players from the ahl (kassin) for nov 23. pray the bruins are stupid enough the play thomas and run the shit out of him when he is in the crease.  o and when thomas leaves the game casue he is hurt or the briuns fear he will be hurt then do it to rask. then it will be even and we can go back to hockey



Since: Nov 22, 2006
Posted on: November 14, 2011 5:14 pm
 

No suspension for Milan Lucic

This reminds me of a play a few years back where the Dominator came way out to play the puck and dove causing Gaborik to go head over heels landing on the back of his neck.  Both Hasek and Gabby were lucky to not be injured on the play.

I'm not going to get involved in the name calling over whether or not Lucic should have been suspended or not.  Not seeing the game I wonder if the Sabers did any sort of policing the incident?  From their lack of immediate response to the hit included in this clip it doesn't appear that the Sabers players themselves thought it was that bad.  If they thought it was a bad or dirty hit they should have jumped Lucic like it was the second coming.  They didn't so they either didn't think it was bad or they should be playing ringette instead of ice hockey. 



Since: Apr 21, 2009
Posted on: November 14, 2011 5:12 pm
 

No suspension for Milan Lucic

sounds like the same fan base that is complaining about Tampa playing a 1-3-1...


"WAAAHAHAAHAHAHA the refs should have forced tampa to change THEIR system"


"WAHAHAHAHAHAHAH we need a RULE to prevent tampa from doing this"










"WAHAHHAHAAAHHAH they touched my goalie when he was WAY THE PHUCCC OUT THE CREASE PLAYING THE PUCK DOWN THE ICE" 



Since: Apr 21, 2009
Posted on: November 14, 2011 5:09 pm
 

No suspension for Milan Lucic

Hey there sissy, you have some information we don't???



no. just eyes that can watch a video. and should you be calling ME a sissy? i mean really... you ladies need some ketchup for your fench cries?


 
If we are to believe that Milan Lucic was honest and truthful about his intentions when speaking at to Brendan Shanahan, than I think the least you can do is believe Darcy Regier when he says Miller has a concussion. 


nah. Miller will be playing by the end of the week.  



But I do think we have a NHL policy here, hit the goalie as hard as you can, take a 2 minute penalty and maybe you'll knock him out. Great way to bring in fans to your sport Shanahan. Freaking pathetic this guy is, hands out 4 and 5 game suspensions for little more than a cross check, but we don't value the health of our goalies, real nice!!!! Gee look its almost November 23rd already.


like i said - the goalie should NEVER be touched. therfore, when the goalie is skating coast to coast and taking shots in the opposing slot nobody here should be complaining!!!! have to give them their space no matter what right!!!!

 


gettin pretty vaginal up in here. 



Since: Nov 3, 2010
Posted on: November 14, 2011 5:04 pm
 

No suspension for Milan Lucic

Hey there sissy, you have some information we don't??? If we are to believe that Milan Lucic was honest and truthful about his intentions when speaking at to Brendan Shanahan, than I think the least you can do is believe Darcy Regier when he says Miller has a concussion. The funny thing is there probably isn't a more honest GM in the business then Regier (almost a fault of his). Yet Bruin fans know better.


Anyway it is over for now. But I do think we have a NHL policy here, hit the goalie as hard as you can, take a 2 minute penalty and maybe you'll knock him out. Great way to bring in fans to your sport Shanahan. Freaking pathetic this guy is, hands out 4 and 5 game suspensions for little more than a cross check, but we don't value the health of our goalies, real nice!!!! Gee look its almost November 23rd already.



Since: Apr 21, 2009
Posted on: November 14, 2011 4:52 pm
 

No suspension for Milan Lucic

Dumb about... what exactly? 



that Shanny made the right call?  


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