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Leino, Porter have hearings with Shanahan

Posted on: December 8, 2011 12:34 pm
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By: Adam Gretz

It appears that Brendan Shanahan's schedule is full. Again.

Not only does he have to deal with (we're assuming) Edmonton's Andy Sutton for his hit on Alexei Ponikarovsky during Wednesday's game, it's also been announced that Buffalo's Ville Leino and Colorado's Kevin Porter will have disciplinary hearings for seperate incidents over the past couple of days.

As always, it's important to keep in mind that a hearing does not mean a suspension is automatic, but it sure seems like it's possible.

Porter is being called in for his knee-on-knee hit against the Vancouver Canucks that resulted in David Booth being sidelined for the next four-to-six weeks with a sprained MCL. There was a debate as to whether or not he would face any supplemental discipline, and  the fact Booth is going to be out of the lineup for an extended period of time is not a positive development for Porter.

He was issued a five-minute major and a game misconduct for kneeing.

Leino, meanwhile, is having a hearing because of an elbow he delivered to the head of Philadelphia's Matt Read during the Sabres 5-4 overtime loss to the Flyers on Wednesday night. He was not penalized on the play, but when watching the video, it's not hard to see why Shanahan wants to have a word with him, as he deliberately stuck his elbow out and made contact with Read's head as he skated past him.



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Since: Nov 3, 2006
Posted on: December 9, 2011 1:47 am
 

Leino, Porter have hearings with Shanahan

And lastly, and this is the biggest point.

The suspensions and hits the league is trying to remove from the game are the ones that could seriously injure a player.  Lucic got a penalty and deservedly so, and that was charging.  For all you crying about the rulebook...read up on charging which was what Lucic did, and then rule 28.  He got a minor and that's all that hit deserved since you can't hit goaltenders. 

You all complaining about supplemental discipline (these crying Sabres fans) when Lucic doesn't deserve any.  The things the league are trying to remove are the hits that potentially lead to big injuries.  .  He didn't target the head or show any intent to injure, and the way he performed the hit was a "Safe" manner because Lucic targeted the body and dropped his shoulder. 

I'm not a Bruins backer (in fact, they're on my craplist right now).  What Lucic did?  Not even that noteworthy. You're just pissy because he took a run at a guy and laid a bad hit, but cleanly.  Nothing about that hit says "SUSPEND".  What Leino did, and he should be smarter than that and he is which is surprising, is the type of crap the league wants to get removed.  A CLEAR ATTEMPT AT TARGETING THE HEAD, WITH THE ELBOW AS WELL, is extremely dangerous.  Dropping your shoulder into someone around their shoulder pads is not.

Get over it.





Since: Nov 3, 2006
Posted on: December 9, 2011 1:35 am
 

Leino, Porter have hearings with Shanahan

its a freakin rule, period! it seems the meatheads outhere dont understand the simple concept of rules......this or they can`t read!
It's a bad rule and anyone with hockey sense knows it.  The goalies aren't allowed to play the puck behind the net anymore except within "hexagon" because it puts them at risk.

Want to know why the rule is even more ridiculous?  You can't check a goalie ANYWHERE in front of the net if he is playing the puck, and he's allowed to play it up to the red line.  In theory, a goalie could play the puck halfway into the neutral zone and be immune.  This shows how stupid goalie protection is. 

Either restrict their movement to their crease and hexagon and fully protected, or allow them free roam on the ice with protection in the crease. 





Since: Mar 23, 2010
Posted on: December 8, 2011 5:51 pm
 

Leino, Porter have hearings with Shanahan

Lucic used his shoulder and made contact with the body, and Miller played the puck WAY OUTSIDE of the crease.  It was a late hit, and it's a good message to goalies that coming out of your crease is dangerous, but at the same it was in no way suspendable.  Lucic was already commited to the hit when Miller still had the puck OUTSIDE THE CREASE.  No goalie deserves protection in the faceoff circle like they do the in the crease.

its a freakin rule, period! it seems the meatheads outhere dont understand the simple concept of rules......this or they can`t read! 



Since: Jun 20, 2008
Posted on: December 8, 2011 4:45 pm
 

Leino, Porter have hearings with Shanahan

under the rules goaltenders are not to be targeted even out of the crease.It is a rule.look it up only coincidental contact is aloud.




Since: Jun 7, 2010
Posted on: December 8, 2011 4:13 pm
 

Leino, Porter have hearings with Shanahan

That was intent no question about it.  It is getting to be a rocky road though.  I agree Miller was WAY out of the crease.  I believe a brush up or knock or light body contact is and should be allowed.  There were years when Marty Broudeur would come out and eff up a team with his stick work and you couldn't touch him.  What Lucic did was uncalled for in my opionion though.  The Leino thing, come on.  If that was full speed which comes to my next point,  it would be very damaging (and Ville is a pretty clean player to begin with).  The Gerbe hit from Bourdon is where this is getting ridiculous.  I stand by my former posts that the players HAVE to skate better.  Gerbe was looking to receive the pass and then turned,  numbers to the defender in a split second.  Bourdon was not charging and was a few steps away but  the league (and the announcers) is expecting players to make split second decisions that are just not possible.   You can't make yourself a victim.  That is why most of the recipients of the hits are younger, inexperienced players.



Since: Nov 14, 2008
Posted on: December 8, 2011 3:39 pm
 

Leino, Porter have hearings with Shanahan

I cannot figure out why Shannahan seems to have it out for the Sabres? It's not like he had tons of run-ins with them as a player or reason to hold a grudge. It's almost comical...Leino gets called in for that, but Lucic...nada. Jokes on Shanny though if he suspends Leino...that will actually benefit Buffalo, so be my guest.



Since: Nov 3, 2006
Posted on: December 8, 2011 3:10 pm
 

Leino, Porter have hearings with Shanahan

but Lucic runs Miller full speed and gets a phone call and nothing.  Wow.  Of course, Leino doesn't play on the Bruins - that's why he'll get suspended.
Lucic used his shoulder and made contact with the body, and Miller played the puck WAY OUTSIDE of the crease.  It was a late hit, and it's a good message to goalies that coming out of your crease is dangerous, but at the same it was in no way suspendable.  Lucic was already commited to the hit when Miller still had the puck OUTSIDE THE CREASE.  No goalie deserves protection in the faceoff circle like they do the in the crease.



Since: Nov 3, 2006
Posted on: December 8, 2011 3:05 pm
 

Leino, Porter have hearings with Shanahan

That's the real kind of b.s. the league's trying to eliminate.    Leino had a chance to line him up or ignore body contact and instead threw the elbow and associated plastic body armor out.    I don't care how soft the hit was, it was reckless, dangerous, and probably lazy.   He should get a game for a deliberate elbow to the head, and another for being stupid and lazy.   Make a hit or ignore the contact, throwing an elbow out is chicken**** and dangerous.
Agree 100%.  It's those types of plays that give players severe concussions, take them out for weeks, months, the following season, etc.  Luckily for Read, and Leino too, no injury came of it.  However, an inch this or that way and there could have been. 

Bob, if you're like me, then you seem be in the camp of "punish the intent, not the result".  This is exactly what the league needs to stand up to and set another example.  If this game wants to attract more casual fans, the need to get plays like this out of the game is higher than ever.



Since: Dec 2, 2011
Posted on: December 8, 2011 3:04 pm
 

Leino, Porter have hearings with Shanahan

how can you even compare leino's hit to lucic's.
if the impact was more sever read would be out for a while.
at least miller saw lucic coming.  

this is the type of play shanny is trying to rid, and every other player in the league as well.
even tho leino didnt make solid contact, a minimum of three games would do.
make a point!!!
 



Since: Jul 1, 2010
Posted on: December 8, 2011 2:19 pm
 

Leino, Porter have hearings with Shanahan

That's the real kind of b.s. the league's trying to eliminate.    Leino had a chance to line him up or ignore body contact and instead threw the elbow and associated plastic body armor out.    I don't care how soft the hit was, it was reckless, dangerous, and probably lazy.   He should get a game for a deliberate elbow to the head, and another for being stupid and lazy.   Make a hit or ignore the contact, throwing an elbow out is chicken**** and dangerous.



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