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Bruins, Canucks offer plenty of craziness

Posted on: January 7, 2012 4:36 pm
Edited on: January 7, 2012 6:32 pm

By: Adam Gretz

The video you see above shows the play that earned Bruins forward Brad Marchand a five-minute major for clipping late in the second period of Saturday's Stanley Cup Finals rematch between Boston and Vancouver.

In the end, it proved to be a costly penalty for the Bruins as the Canucks took advantage of the extended power play, scoring a pair of goals that proved to be the difference in their 4-3 win. It was a game that did not fall short of the hype leading in to it. From the drop of the puck it was obvious there was no love lost between the two teams (or the fans) and it was non-stop craziness from start to finish, and it also may have given Brendan Shanahan a bit of extra work to do over the weekend in terms of supplemental discipline.

Not only will Marchand's hit most certainly be looked at by the league (Sami Salo, the player he hit, was not only injured on the play, but he never even had possession of the puck while Marchand made no attempt to play it), there's also the question of what will be done to Bruins forward Milan Lucic after he was ejected just six minutes into the first period for leaving the bench during a line brawl (which you can watch right here). ESPN Boston's James Murphy passed along the information during the game that NHL will meet after the game to decide whether or not he joined the scrum during a legal or illegal change.

If it is determined to be an illegal change he will be facing a 10-game suspension, which is the mandatory punishment for leaving the bench during a fight. Last season Eric Godard, then a member of the Pittsburgh Penguins, was hit with that punishment for leaving the bench during the now infamous February brawl between the Penguins and Islanders. A couple of weeks ago Tampa Bay's Steve Downie was hit with a $2,500 fine for a similar incident, avoiding the suspension because the NHL decided that he joined the play during a "legal" change and had a right to be in the game at that moment.

(UPDATE: The NHL rescinded the game misconduct to Milan Lucic after the game, meaning he's not likely to face any sort of a suspension.)

When all was said and done on Saturday afternoon, the Bruins and Canucks combined for over 100 penalty minutes, including four fighting majors, Marchand's major penalty for clipping, two game misconducts and two additional ten-minute misconducts. In other words: just another day at the office for the Bruins.

The Canucks' biggest issue in the Finals last season, when they lost to Boston in seven games, was their inability to score on the power play, scoring on just two of their 31 attempts. If you're going to beat the Bruins (and not many teams have recently) you're going to have to take advantage of the power plays they give you, and on Saturday Vancouver did just that, converting on four of 11 chances thanks to goals from Ryan Kesler, Alex Burrows, Henrik Sedin and Cody Hodgson.

Cory Schneider, a Massachusetts native, was given the surprise start for the Canucks in goal and stopped 36 of the 39 shots he faced, which also helped to provide us one of the more bizarre moments of the day. Even though it was Schneider between the pipes for the Canucks, the Bruins faithful spent most of the day heckling Roberto Luongo (despite the fact that, again, he wasn't playing), even starting a "we want Luongo" chant during the second period. The only real negative of the day for Schneider came midway through the second period when he and the Canucks were on the wrong end of a missing icing call by the officials (seen here), leading to Boston's second goal of the game off the stick of Rich Peverely. It was a blown call, but the lesson here is always play to the whistle.

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Since: Jul 1, 2010
Posted on: January 8, 2012 9:24 am

Bruins, Canucks offer plenty of craziness

0 for 7 is what cost the game, not the refs..
I disagree trucker, it was 8.

Since: Jul 1, 2010
Posted on: January 8, 2012 9:23 am

Bruins, Canucks offer plenty of craziness

i understand, but who was stupid?? Thornton for starting stuff or 6 Canucks jumping ONE Bruins player??
When a player goes to other players bench to start a fight, I call that less than bright, but that's just me.  
you dont expect SIX players to jump one guy and end up 2 men short.
Based on the history of the league and from my perspective of that history, I don't expect anything good to come out of a group of players in a pile.   I can recall more of them when the refs boned up a call that got it right too, because they almost always miss a cheapshot, stickwork, instigation, leaving the bench (until a few years ago), or something else along those lines.    I wouldn't be surprised for a second if the Canucks didn't get in some dirty shots on him too, but that goes with the territory and Thornton knows that better than anybody on the ice.

Since: Sep 5, 2006
Posted on: January 8, 2012 8:17 am

Bruins, Canucks offer plenty of craziness

Clipping is knee or below, that hit was shoulder to lower hip/upper thigh. Not a cheap shot. Funny as hell though. Knocked the wind out of

Since: Aug 28, 2009
Posted on: January 8, 2012 3:12 am

Bruins, Canucks offer plenty of craziness

Almost in single lockstep, the Bruin fans blame the refs for this loss.

OK, the two refs stood on each side of Schnieders shoulders and helped stop the Boston shots on SEVEN PPs??

0 for 7 is what cost the game, not the refs..

I might even go as far as to say AV out-coached the Bruins. Allowing the Bruins probably have the best five on five play in the league, the Canucks made sure their 11 PPs and Bostons seven kept over half the game off of 5 on 5.

In that stretch of time Vancouver outscored boston 4-0. Maybe AV pulled one on the Bruins last night.......

Since: Sep 28, 2011
Posted on: January 8, 2012 12:38 am
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Since: Aug 22, 2006
Posted on: January 8, 2012 12:08 am

Bruins, Canucks offer plenty of craziness

expect to be screwed over when your team gets involved in stupid stuff.
bob, i understand, but who was stupid?? Thornton for starting stuff or 6 Canucks jumping ONE Bruins player??
seriously come on now. you dont expect SIX players to jump one guy and end up 2 men short.
anyone watching that scrum and thinks Van should have had a 5 on 3, they seriously are lying.
come on bob, that wasnt just your typical missed call. as cris carter would say....come on man!!

Since: Jul 1, 2010
Posted on: January 7, 2012 11:10 pm

Bruins, Canucks offer plenty of craziness

you are telling me the Bruins deserve to be short 5 on 3 after that scrum???
No, I said (implied) expect to be screwed over when your team gets involved in stupid stuff.    It's like whining about a hook or a hold when the other player has a step and the beat player reaches with his stick or arm, the refs are going to blow a bunch of those calls, always have, and most likely always will without video review (that I don't want).  It's about what preceeded the event that lead to the missed call.   History has shown us that the refs can't get those calls right with any regularity, so the team that avoids the situation is better off.

The bigger problem is putting Van on special teams.   Even if it was only 5 pps, that's too many to expect to win.   Against a team like Vancouver, it's about the decision making process.   Thornton never should have let the refs get involved in the first place.   I'm not nit-picking the mistakes by the refs in the scrum, I'm bashing the selfish and undiscipline decision to fly off the handle against a team you don't want to be shorthanded against.   I wouldn't be surprised if the Bruins weren't up a man 1 out of 5 of those same incidents, but the problem of Thornton putting the refs in the game still remains and I would still criticize it.    It's about making sure the Bruins are 5 on 5 against a team like Vancouver, and his decision (right or wrong) to go after Burrows (innocent or guilty) was stupid and selfish.

Blame the refs, or blame the events that put the refs in a choice they're more likely to screw up.   Goal calls, offsides, icings, faceoffs, and early or late whistels (when they're out of position) are one thing, but usually you have to expect the refs to screw up penalty calls because it's always been like that.

So again, if Thorton doesn't throw a punch and just waits for his payback, his team is never even in the position to get shorthanded by 2.    Thornton's reputation is never going to help, it's similar to every time Holmstrom gets within 40 feet of the crease.

Since: Jun 19, 2011
Posted on: January 7, 2012 11:08 pm

Bruins, Canucks offer plenty of craziness

First off lets take the hit since Salo was the one coming into Marchant who was playing the punk off the boards how was this even called all Marchant did was defend himself against a hit plan and simple. If this ends up as some sort of Sup if I was the Bruins I will fight it also if I was part of the Managment of the Bruins I would be filing a formal complaint about how this game was officated the whole thing with Shawn getting jumped everyone of theose Canuks should have received a roughing of unsportmans .

The game was a farce and by far the worst officiated game this season I would be fomally protesting the game and asking the League to look into the game.

Since: Aug 22, 2006
Posted on: January 7, 2012 10:05 pm

Bruins, Canucks offer plenty of craziness

Wait, wait...Milan Lucic left the bench during a brawl and he's not getting disciplined?  What a shock.  Amaze balls!  I didn't see the game - somebody explain to me how leaving the bench during a brawl can be on a "clean change"?  Sounds like a made up notion.
pretty simple, he DIDNT leave the bench cause he WAS ON the ice.

and Bob, you arent serious right?? you are telling me the Bruins deserve to be short 5 on 3 after that scrum???
like i said there sgould have been NO PP's at best either way after that. you keep blaming Thornton...he and burrows slashed each other and if Thornton popped burrows ok, but then id say 6 guys jumping Thornton evened that off.
no way should Van have come away with a PP after that, and damn they got a 5 on 3 to boot!!! ridiculous!!

Since: Jul 1, 2010
Posted on: January 7, 2012 9:54 pm

Bruins, Canucks offer plenty of craziness

first Thornton may have slashed, but Burrows slashed him also, as you can see by the penalty calls, burrows also got a 10, so ok were even there, then 6 guys jump on Thornton, so lets see, you have to many men first off, and maybe some kind of roughing when 6 guys pounce on 1, maybe? i dont know lol....but yet the Bruins were short 5 on WORST the calls should have been even with the Bruins maybe getting a pp.
I didn't miss a second of that game.   Yes the refs blew the Lucic call, but Thorton put the team short handed as soon as he threw a punch at Burrows with the glove on, it wasn't even.   My point about the whole thing is before the scrum, if Thorton just waits a shift to retaliate, the game goes on and Boston continues to roll in all liklihood.   Vancouver's strength is special teams play.   Refs screw up calls and especially calls in scrums all the time, my point is to avoid putting yourself and teammates in a bad position when there's no need for extra chippy stuff and retaliation, especially to a guy like Burrows.    There were plenty of bad calls plenty of good ones, just like most games.   Boston was rolling through anybody, why risk throwing the whole team off like he did?  It was undiscipline.

Thorton doesn't swing and the game stays 5 on 5 much longer, and I think that would have favored the Canucks.   Boston is too physical not to have a bunch of calls against them, some are good some are bad, but that's the risk with physical play, and it's always been like that.    Besides, Thornton probably lost all benefit of the doubt with the refs by the time he was with St. John's before he was in Norfolk.   Guys like him are guilty until proven innocent if the refs are unsure, plenty of players like that in the league. 

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