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Tim Thomas responds to criticism

Posted on: January 28, 2012 12:00 am
Edited on: January 29, 2012 10:25 am
 
Thomas

By: Adam Gretz

The Tim Thomas White House controversy just won't go away, even though he wishes that it would.

After he refused to attend the Bruins visit to the White House earlier in the week, the Conn Smythe winning goaltender has drawn a flood of criticism from media, fans and even anonymous sources within the Bruins organization, referring to his decision as "selfish," as the Boston Globe reported on Tuesday.

Even though he said his Facebook statement explaining his position would be his only comment on the matter, it's been all anybody wants to talk about anytime he's been in front of a microphone or camera during the All-Star weekend festivities.

During his media availability on Friday, for example, he was asked if he wanted to see this all just go away.

“I think it should. I think it should," said Thomas. "I think it’s all media-driven right now. It has been from the start. Everything I said then was as an individual. It wasn’t as a representative of the Boston Bruins. All it has to do is with me. It’s separate from hockey. That’s my personal life. Those are my personal views. Those are my personal beliefs. It has nothing to do with hockey. It has nothing to do with this All-Star Game.”

Thomas did not join the Bruins on Monday and said later in the evening that it was his right as an individual to not go, a decision he made because he feels the Federal government "has grown out of control, threatening the Rights, Liberties, and Property of the People."
 
The controversy that followed even led to speculation that maybe this could be the beginning of the end for Thomas' time in Boston, which seems pretty silly to think about. Of course, sooner rather than later Thomas and the Bruins are going to part ways, but that has more do with the fact he is 37 years old, only has one year remaining on his contract, and the team already has his replacement, Tuukka Rask, on the roster. Not because he skipped out on taking a trip to visit the President.

Thomas will also eventually get his wish, and this story will disappear. Perhaps as soon as the second half of the season starts up and he gets back into the crease and starts winning games again.

That always seems to put a pretty quick stop to a lot of controversies like this.

Photo: Getty Images

Previously at Eye On Hockey

Bruins honored at White House while Thomas declines
Thomas explains decision
Thomas Speculation starts

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Since: Jul 1, 2010
Posted on: January 29, 2012 9:00 am
 

Tim Thomas responds to criticism

Our country was built on conservative principles.
Yeah, tens of thousands of people voting and 3 branches of government was a pretty run-of-the-mill foundation.
it's blatantly obvious that political discussions are not your cup of tea
And it appears historical perspective isn't yours
you spend hours writing gasoline-drenched messages on this board, wasting away precious hours of your life, all for idols who will wither away.
So why come here?   I would recommend you and your fellow highly-enlightened posters of your political perspective and differing political persuasions take these country saving arguments to a non-sports site
And you'll realize that Pavel Datsyuk, or Sidney Crosby, or whomever you cherish, doesn't care about your life. Yes, I said it. They don't care about your life. Read it and weep.
I will try to come to terms with the idea that professional athletes, who double as political loudmouths of all political persuasions on occasion, don't care about me.

This post is meant to discourage zealous political posts on behalf of those that think you're wasting your lectures and rants about which ideology is better.Smile

I can't wait until the regular season resumes.



Since: Jan 15, 2008
Posted on: January 29, 2012 8:42 am
 

Tim Thomas responds to criticism

So to review:
Tim wants to spout off on his political beliefs, even though nobody asked him and nobody should care what a hockey player thinks about economic policies or international diplomacy.
Tim wants to be able to say his piece and then not be criticized - he wants to set the rules of discussion: "I'm only going to address this once, on my Facebook page" (where all great political discussion is introduced...excuse me, "political monologues").
Tim wants attention for his beliefs, but he doesn't want anyone else discussing him and his beliefs.
Tim gets mad when the media reports a story that Tim created.

Tim is dumb.  

For those who cannot tell the difference, the thing about Al Gore, let's say, against Tim Thomas is that unlike Thomas, Gore is a career politician who can pick up the phone and talk to any world leader he wants to about anything he wants to.  If Gore cares about an issue, you should, too, because he might actually be able to change policy - in a way that will affect us all - whereas Tim Thomas knows...dick nobody.  And he can pick up a phone and call...dick nobody.  He had a chance to meet the president, and he chose to...get petulant on Facebook. 

Those who think Tim is admirable or had something interesting to say, well.  There's reality and then there's...wherever they live. 



Since: Oct 4, 2006
Posted on: January 29, 2012 6:35 am
 

Tim Thomas responds to criticism

someday, you'll realize what's important: The taxes that you pay vs. taxes that others don't pay;
Already there... still like sports.....

 
 the low wages you achieve through gut-wrenching work vs. the union-worker's $25-hour salary for lazily pushing buttons on an assembly line. Someday, you'll worry about bills, rent, mortgages and feeding kids,
Nahhhhh, you see unlike 90 % of this country I don't pride myself on a lack of education. Nor do I think working hard to make money is unpatriotic.... unlike some tea baggers. 

 
Politics are a direct attribute of our so-called "leaders," the hypocrites who pocket six figures and fail to improve our condition. (Al Gore, anyone? He lives lavishly and travels on your tax money, all while selling a lie called global warming ("ManBearPig!"))
Along with every president ever....

 Tim Thomas did the right thing. He's on a platform and can connect with millions. More should follow him. 
Where exactly would we be following him again? 


Hey. Our country was built on conservative principles, whether you agree with it or not. That's how we grew and progressed into the best country in the world. We're sinking to devastating standards because Obama, and the elitists in Washington, have ignored these principles with their liberal propaganda. (Their philosophy? It's a simple, selfish formula: Buck the trend. Go against conservatism. Tell lies. Sway voters' minds. Get elected. Because that's all they care about, really. Getting elected. That's it, and that's all.) 

Meanwhile, you and I suffer.
So, uhhhhhh, yeah......

I'd say 90% of this is flat out BS.... but it might be closer to 100 %

Millions are without a job and cannot afford a round of golf
Ohhhhhhhhh the humanity!

The Elitist in Washington (Mr. Obama) finds the time to play round, after round, after round, after round, after round. (My favorite: Obama played seven rounds of golf before addressing the Gulf Oil Crisis.) 
And yet I have no doubt you voted for GWB who took more vactions than any president ever, saw gas prices explode and actually made money off of it. And yes, before you ask I voted for him and would again because Carey and Gore were pussies.
But don't lie about it, because it is kind of embarrassing to people who actually know what they are talking about. 
 


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Since: Aug 5, 2007
Posted on: January 29, 2012 4:29 am
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Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: January 29, 2012 2:18 am
 

Tim Thomas responds to criticism

I wonder if everyone backing Tim Thomas would be so appreciative of someone standing up to the President and refusing to go to this function if it were say a Russian or Swedish player from the Bruins who decided not to go because of US foreign policy??? Somehow I don't think you'd all have his back as you do with Tea Party Tim.......

That's the best post in this entire thread by far, I applaud you for bringing up something nobody wants to admit or talk about.

I would bet big money we would struggle to find even ONE person on these boards that would support a russian player that hates Obama and/or the U.S government and refused to visit the president with his teammates.   And God forbid if that Russian player isn't a superstar and just a role player, Bruin fans everywhere would want his head.

I guarantee you we would have read posts on here that go something like this.  

"You don't like our country get out".

"You make big money to play a game in our country but hate our government?"

"Get the f*** out of our country then traitor"

That's how it would be if a russian dared to do what Tim Thomas did.  But because it wasn't a Russian but it was Tim we're supposed to forgive him because he has "rights" and "freedom of speech" and all the other crap I've been reading every day on here.

The bottom line is a real teammate and a mature adult part of a team would have simply shut his mouth, sucked it up and visited the president with his team.  Tim accomplished NOTHING by deserting his team... nothing.   Tim could only hurt his team by refusing to go, couldn't help his team one bit.  I know a lot of you don't think his decision affects his team, but that's just your opinion and not a fact. There may be plenty of Bruin players bothered by it, you have no idea if that's the case or not.

Then again dillusional Bruin fans also believe it doesn't matter.  I've ready many posts in this thread and others that said even if the Bruins lose home ice in the playoffs it doesn't mean a thing because the Bruins are so good.

We'll see about that... 



Since: Mar 30, 2010
Posted on: January 29, 2012 12:37 am
 

Tim Thomas responds to criticism

Well put Timmy! It was a decision as an individual. A decision from his personal life. A decision as Tim Thomas not as the Bruins. If Thomas wasn't a true Bruin, he wouldn't be best friends with the guy who could steal his job at any point. If Thomas wasn't a true team player he wouldn't help Rask become the best backup in the league who will be a stud for years. This whole bullshit of him skipping meeting another crappy ass president needs to just go away. Big efn deal



Since: Jul 13, 2007
Posted on: January 28, 2012 10:58 pm
 

Tim Thomas responds to criticism

Tim Thomas didn't just not go with the team, he made it public as to why he wasn't going with the team.
Right now, Tim Thomas needs another story to come along and push his snub aside, but its a lesson he needs to learn.



Since: Oct 4, 2006
Posted on: January 28, 2012 10:58 pm
 

Tim Thomas responds to criticism

your an idiot! 
Clearly.



Since: Feb 12, 2010
Posted on: January 28, 2012 10:10 pm
 

Tim Thomas responds to criticism

Is it really that big a deal to meet someone who screws you on a daily basis. Unless your gonna go and kick him in the nads. I dont see where there issue is. Except the fact that the media has it in there mouth like a rabid dog. If your gonna go and meet someone Tim you can come here and meet me. I have yet to put anyone in a position to lose their life for the sake of money. In fact I have personally saved 79 lives since I've been on this planet. Lets see one president be able to say that while he was in office. And without killing more than he saved. Politics are a joke and were all fools to follow it.



Since: Sep 11, 2006
Posted on: January 28, 2012 10:00 pm
 

Tim Thomas responds to criticism

"Patfan, do you understand the difference between "PR" and "Politics", they are not one and the same.....A photo opp is NOT ABOUT POLITICS, that would be about PUBLIC RELATIONS. There is a difference. TT choosing not to go, was about his POLITICS, not PUBLIC RELATIONS. Do you see the difference???? Personally if Thomas had been a bit more honest in his statement I would have been able to give him a pass a lot more easy. His statement was far from the truth and we both know it. This has everything to do with not respecting the President and it is 100% about Tim Thomas' political beliefs, if he would have said it that way, I would have been much more understanding of his actions."  --LIZARD_KING



Yes technically it is PR and not politics. I say technicallly because the ONLY reason Obama is doing the invite is because of tradition and he does not want any bad PR, why? Because he doesnt want anything to affect his political career. Thus it is indeed all about politics. I also agree that TT not going was all about politics and have never said differently. I admit I did not think it was needed to corelate the PR-Politics angle but I was proven wrong. Anyway, Thomas did the right thing in not going if thats the way he feels. It did not hurt his team AT ALL.  To those who say he disrespected Obama or the Office, they have no clue. I am done with this topic. Like another poster said, not one mind has been changed,why bother.


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