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Nash: 'Felt I could be a huge part' of rebuild

Posted on: February 28, 2012 12:11 pm
Edited on: February 28, 2012 12:47 pm
 

By Brian Stubits

Just when you thought the Rick Nash story was going to die down after the trade deadline came and went with him still in Columbus, Blue Jackets general manager Scott Howson decided to reveal at the post-deadline news conference that it was Nash who approached the team about a trade.

Well on Tuesday Nash had his first chance to talk about the trade deadline and his request to leave the only franchise he has ever known.

"I was informed by management that there was a rebuild, a reshape, of the team, and I personally felt I could be a huge part of that, toward bringing assets in," Nash said after the team's skate. "I think that was in my view that was the best thing for the team, the organization, and personally for my career."

It sounds noble to be sure. And I'm not even going to be the cynic here and say there's no truth to that, that Nash is trying to remain the good guy. He's been incredibly dedicated and loyal to that franchise, I believe he was interested in helping them build for the future.

Just don't be fooled into not reading that Nash just doesn't want to be part of it. The organization has more or less been in a perpetual state of rebuilding. Can't blame Nash for being ready to play on a winning team. He'll take the martyr role in the process.

Here is an interesting back and forth from today's media availability that allows you to read through the lines however you choose.

"I think the biggest thing is when management said they were going to make a rebuild and a reshape, I thought the best thing for the team and for the organization would be to get assets for me, and I thought it would be best for my career."

Reporter: "Best for your career, to go somewhere else?"

Nash: "To be part of the rebuild."

What will be interesting to see now is how the fans in Columbus treat Nash. They have beloved him as the face of the franchise for years. Now, we'll have to wait and see.

"I don’t know what to expect," Nash said. "I think I’ve been with these fans my whole 9-year, 10-year career here and I love them no matter what. They’re a great fan base, loyal. They’ve been patient with this organization and this team, and no matter what the reception is I’ll always have a soft spot in my heart for our fans."

I'm going to go out on a limb here (not really) and say the overwhelming majority won't be mad at Nash. I doubt many if any of them could blame him for wanting to leave, whatever the reason. If his intentions really were as noble as he says then there's definitely no way they could feel scorn for him.

Now that Nash's retort is out of the way, this can be put on the backburner until the summer. On to the playoff push.

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Comments

Since: Dec 2, 2008
Posted on: March 1, 2012 4:12 am
 

Nash: 'Felt I could be a huge part' of rebuild


So let's summarize our discussion.

1. Your initial post in which you state that Howson was responding to a question from reporters has been replaced by your new post, in which you agree that he brought it up because he knew he would be asked about it.  

2.  You believe that in all situations, somebody "has to go under the bus".  I believe that there are many situations which can be managed in the best interests of all involved, and I support that contention by citing a recent alternative means of handling this situation in which Mike Gillis choose not to comment, nobody had to go under the bus and a team can protect not only the value of its player but the integrity of its values as an organization.

3.  You believe I play Gameboys and watch press conferences.  I do not purport to know what your propensity to play antiquated portable gaming systems while watching television might be.   

4.  You believe that the leader of an organization should tell everybody the answers to whatever reporters happen to ask, and that honestly bothers the world and myself.  I believe that an organization can hold strategic discusisons in confidence, always be honest, and where apropriate at times not make  details of private discussions public or break confidence in order to protect the best interests of everyone involved.  These situations include contract negotiations, personel desicions within an organization, planning for war, family matters, medical situations, and others.

5.  You believe that Rick Nash was NEVER in position to become a free agent.  I believe that Rick Nash, along with every player in the NHL bound by the current collective bargaining agreement is in position to become a free agent, currently at age 27 or after 7 years in the league.  I believe that Rick Nash choose not to pursue free agency, and instead opted to sign a long term agreement with the Blue Jackets. You disagree, instead choosing to believe that, uh, the same thing happened. 

6.   I said that Rick Nash is not demanding a trade, nor is he threatening to somehow breach the contract that he signed, what he is doing is asking that the team pursue a potential move and agreeing to waive his no trade clause in the event that a trade can be reached with specific teams. You said that there is no such thing as demanding a trade.  i believe that this news would be of interest to Dany Heatley, Chris Pronger, Sheldon Souray, Jeff Carter, Patrick Roy, Kyle Turris, Eric Lindros, and I guess everybody.  
 
7.  You believe that the contract document in place between Rick Nash and the Columbus Blue Jackets includes a clause that requires him the shut up and play, and specifically prohibits him from discussing his future or his position on said future with his managers.  You believe thusly that he "broke his end of the deal" by speaking to Management about a possible trade.  I believe that speaking to management about a possible trade, esspially in confidence, and under the aspices of his role and value in another rebuild and what his best interests might be, in no way constitutes "breaking his end of the deal".

8.  You believe that a no trade clause is a great way for a team to retain the services of a player and means a player cannot ask for a trade and must shut up. I believe that a no trade clause means that a team cannot execute a transaction without the players consent, is a huge asset to the player who holds one, and a significant restrictive liability to the team that agrees to one.

9.  You believe that people should honor their contracts and shut up.  I believe that people should honor their contracts and be free to speak, (at least while working within the charters and declarations that provide rights to citizens of the United States and Canada), about their ideas and the best interests of themselves and their respective organizations, esspecially while in the privacy and confidence of those around them.  

10.  You believe I am a fool.  You have founded this hypothesis upon the possibility that I may believe that the desicion to make public Rick Nash's private discussion and subsequent request was soley his own.  I do not purport to know if you are a fool or not. It appears that you may be the 14 year old communist son of Scott Howson, but perhaps you are just a Wings fan with some time on your hands while you await yet another Cup.  

My conclusion is that this is a bit of a mess and it didn't have to be, and I believe that with proper collaberation, led by Mr. Howson, Rick Nash's agent would not have felt compelled to speak, Scott Howson would not have felt compelled to speak, Rick Nash would not have felt compelled to speak, and the end result - no trade prior to the deadline but a likely move at or near the draft, would remain the same, with the only difference being less distraction, less fan strife around the organization, and perhaps more percieved value for the player being moved.   

Whoever you are, good times debating the Managerial sensibilities of Scott Howson, better luck in your future engagements, I gotta get back to my Metroid game.  
  



Since: Oct 3, 2006
Posted on: February 29, 2012 11:00 pm
 

Nash: 'Felt I could be a huge part' of rebuild

You are an ignorent fool with that post, the CITY of COLUMBUS has embraced that team from day one! And as far as Bettman goes it's one of a few good choices he made in expansion. How do you go off blaming the city of Columbus and the fans for whats happened here?  Yeah, lets be honest.... That place was ALWAYS full or close to it before the years of mismanagment kicked in. If they would only get competitive again and only threaten to make the play off's they would be right back. Any team that has gone through constant loosing like..... (Quebec did?) will have their problems. Fans in Columbus are not staying away because they have lost interest in the game, they are showing their disgust to who is really to blame.
 

Think a little before you type friendo.



Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: February 29, 2012 5:00 pm
 

Nash: 'Felt I could be a huge part' of rebuild

In "the actual" press conference, Scott Howson started, and began by stating and I quote verbatim "In regard to Rick Nash".  he then proceeded to read from a script and stated that Nash came to him and had a genuine discussion in which he revealed he would be willing to waive the no trade clasue the team signed him to, provided he had some say over where he goes.

He brought up the topic because he knew very well it was coming up regardless....  and if you honestly think that was solely Howson's decision then you are a fool.  That was a decision he may or may not have suggested but certainly was approved and cleared by people above Howson.  And for the record he was asked questions by reporters after he brought it up and answered them honestly, nothing more nothing less.

I am categorically not "suggesting Howson shoudl have taken the fall for Nash and let the fans think organization wanted Nash out".  That's quite a leap in logic right there.  

Using your terminology and definitions, somebody had to go "under the bus".  Howson had a choice, it was him or Nash and he chose Nash.  Either the public was going to be told it was a corporate decision to trade Nash or that it was Nash's decision. He told the truth.

I AM suggesting, along with practically everyone on this thread and network/hockey analyst who has weighed in on this subject has also suggested, that Howson simply needed to state that Rick Nash is a great player, an important asset to the team and the community, and any deal that would see such an athlete moved would have to bring great returns to Columbus in order to ensure that the organizaiton is confidently moving along a path of growth and future success.

Howson stated more then once how important Nash is to Columbus and how much value he expects for Nash. Turn up the volume next time or stop playing with your gameboy when you're watching a press conference.  He didn't need to kiss Nash's butt, he was very respectful towards Nash.  But honesty bothers you like it bothers others.

Rick Nash choose NOT to pursue free agency as a Rocket Richard Trophy , and instead signed a long term contract with the team that drafted him as a committment to the organization and its fans.  

You're wrong again. Nash was NEVER in position to be an UFA. He signed a long term extension almost exactly one year early which meant long term security for Nash regardless of how he plays the next season or even if he gets hurt.   That was a big reason why he signed that agreement early.... 

Nash didn't demand a trade, he requested one if the team could strike such a deal.  

There is no such thing as demanding a trade, a player can only ask for one.  There is nothing in his contract that says he can demand a trade, it actually states the opposite and that is he can't be traded.  Player with 7.8 million dollar cap hits in hockey don't sit out and "demand" trades.  Nash wouldn't want to lose his popularity.... apparently he's made of glass and afraid to upset people

This is not so much a defense of Nash as a prolific player of great thinker, simply a common sense look at the situaiton he is in.  I would do exaclty the same thing.  i would have made a committment to the team that drafted me.  I would have signed a lucrative contract with a no trade clause so I could be secure in my life.  I would have become frustrated after years of being the only show around me.  I would have opened a discussion about a possible trade when told that the tea woudl be rebuidling yet again after ten years of futility.  I would have provided a lsit of teams I was interested in to avoid going from bad situation to another.  I would be more interested in being a part of a championship organization just once in my career than in going through the motions year after year. 

I should have skipped over the rest of your post because what you just said speaks volumes about how you think.  Nowhere in your above statement did you say you would have HONORED THE CONTRACT YOU SIGNED AND SHUT UP.  The team had ONE obligation to Nash, and that was to keep cutting him the paychecks they promised in writing.  Nash had one obligation to the team, to shut up and play hockey.  Nash broke his end of the deal, the team has kept its part of the deal. 

Nash isnt' owed anything by the team he plays for and neither is any other play in any sport.  They are owed a paycheck.  Until you can show me a clause in a contract that talks about TEAM PERFORMANCE and gives a player an out clause if a team isn't playing well, I'll stick with my line of thinking and you can stick with yours. 









 



Since: Dec 2, 2008
Posted on: February 29, 2012 4:39 pm
 

Nash: 'Felt I could be a huge part' of rebuild


Uh, I was watching the actual press conference, as opposed to the one which apparently occured in your mind.  

In "the actual" press conference, Scott Howson started, and began by stating and I quote verbatim "In regard to Rick Nash".  he then proceeded to read from a script and stated that Nash came to him and had a genuine discussion in which he revealed he would be willing to waive the no trade clasue the team signed him to, provided he had some say over where he goes.

I am categorically not "suggesting Howson shoudl have taken the fall for Nash and let the fans think organization wanted Nash out".  That's quite a leap in logic right there.  

I AM suggesting, along with practically everyone on this thread and network/hockey analyst who has weighed in on this subject has also suggested, that Howson simply needed to state that Rick Nash is a great player, an important asset to the team and the community, and any deal that would see such an athlete moved would have to bring great returns to Columbus in order to ensure that the organizaiton is confidently moving along a path of growth and future success.

I AM also suggesting that this was a very strange move by a rookie GM, and is in stark contrast to similar situations that occur all the time in sport, for example Cody Hodson in Vancouver, where Mike Gillis simply stated that the moves the organizaiton makes are always reflective of a desire to get better, and any discussions that occur privately between the players and the organization in an effort to get there are just that - private.  

This woudl have spared Howson, Nash, and the Blue jackets from discussion threads suchas this one, and most importantly woudl have allowed Howson to continue to pursue a move that makes sense for his team without the cloud of wether his player will still be seen as part of the team he is scurrently the captain of, and wether it is Rick Nash who is the problem, or Scot Howson who is the problem, neither of which are good for the team and certainly are not great for the future value of the veyr player he may be trying to move.

Finally, you suggest that for an athlete who has been signed to a long term, no movement contract to agree to waive this benefit and provide a list of 5 teams that he is interested in is "complete nonsense".

Rick Nash choose NOT to pursue free agency as a Rocket Richard Trophy winner, and instead signed a long term contract with the team that drafted him as a committment to the organization and its fans.  Years later, Management informs him that they are going to go through another rebuild, and he agrees to waive the no movement clause, but only if the team is able to find a deal with a list of teams that he is interested in.  As Nash stated, and I agree, this could be a win win.  Nash gets a chance to compete for a Championship, which management has informed him won't be happening any time soon in his current situation, and the team gets a chance to move him as an asset for picks and prospects that represent future success.

Nash didn't demand a trade, he requested one if the team could strike such a deal.  

This is not so much a defense of Nash as a prolific player of great thinker, simply a common sense look at the situaiton he is in.  I would do exaclty the same thing.  i would have made a committment to the team that drafted me.  I would have signed a lucrative contract with a no trade clause so I could be secure in my life.  I would have become frustrated after years of being the only show around me.  I would have opened a discussion about a possible trade when told that the tea woudl be rebuidling yet again after ten years of futility.  I would have provided a lsit of teams I was interested in to avoid going from bad situation to another.  I would be more interested in being a part of a championship organization just once in my career than in going through the motions year after year. 

 



 



Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: February 29, 2012 1:14 am
 

Nash: 'Felt I could be a huge part' of rebuild

red wings,you've made some dumb comments on this site recently,but this post take the cake.he threw nash under the bus because he was never asked if nash wanted the trade.howson just came out and announced nash came to him in january and said he'd like to be traded to a .nash did this as a pro,keeping it in-house and out of the media,as it should be done,not like howard or melo to cause a circus.howson then,in a vindictive manner,let the public know what was happenning in-house within the columbas team.this doesn't bode well for the future of the jackets getting talent to come over therei predict this guy is fired within the next year or two.

What press conference were you watching?  The one I watched a reporter specifically asked Howson if Nash asked for a trade and Howson answered honestly and said yes and told the media approximately when Nash came to him. 

Either way though, it doesn't matter one bit. What you're suggesting is Howson should have taken the fall for Nash and let the fans think the organization wanted Nash out,  when in reality it was Nash that requested to be traded.  There is no reason in this world why Howson should let anybody think it was his decision or preference when it wasn't.

And long before Howson spoke we already knew that Nash only provided a list of 5 teams he would be willing to be traded to which is complete nonesense.  He asks to be traded but severely limits who Howson can negotiate with?

I'll say it one more time, Howson hasn't done a good job in Columbus, but to hate him for being honest is flat out  stupid.

Then again you're not the brightest bulb on these boards so I shouldn't be surprised... 



Since: Aug 9, 2009
Posted on: February 29, 2012 12:59 am
 

Nash: 'Felt I could be a huge part' of rebuild

jsnecktie HILARIOUS!!



Since: Oct 3, 2006
Posted on: February 29, 2012 12:30 am
 

Nash: 'Felt I could be a huge part' of rebuild

From the stand point of a big Blue Jackets fan I have a hard time coming up with the words to discribe what this kind of rock bottom feels like. The worst part? That the same boobs that have mismanaged this franchise for years are now trusted to deal away the only star player we have ever had. ( And that it's come to the point now that Nash is ready to leave.)

Let me say this much, the fans in Columbus love this team but they are wore out with the stupid draft picks and poor development of what we do draft.





Since: Oct 27, 2006
Posted on: February 29, 2012 12:18 am
 

Nash: 'Felt I could be a huge part' of rebuild

Lets Be honest. Nash isnt the only one who wants out of Columbus...... Its the franchise itself!! Columbus Oh. has turned out to be as good a Hockey City as it would Cricket city for that matter, Its time the BLue Jackets cave in and take Nah and Co. sans the Gm to Quebec and revive the Nordiqes.
The JAckets ion Columbus is probably the Dumbest decision of a long list of dumb thing Stupid Gary Bettman has done since as Commisioner of the NHL.
Bettman and Howson should be sentenced to Ten years Columbus time, with no chance of parole. As punishemnt they have put honest hard wirking Hockey players that deserve a city that is NHL caliber not echl caliber.





Since: May 28, 2007
Posted on: February 28, 2012 11:45 pm
 

Nash: 'Felt I could be a huge part' of rebuild

nash has spent 10 years playing on a mediocre team,why would he want to be traded to another poor team like winnipeg or carolina?



Since: May 28, 2007
Posted on: February 28, 2012 11:33 pm
 

Nash: 'Felt I could be a huge part' of rebuild

red wings,you've made some dumb comments on this site recently,but this post take the cake.he threw nash under the bus because he was never asked if nash wanted the trade.howson just came out and announced nash came to him in january and said he'd like to be traded to a winner.nash did this as a pro,keeping it in-house and out of the media,as it should be done,not like howard or melo to cause a circus.howson then,in a vindictive manner,let the public know what was happenning in-house within the columbas team.this doesn't bode well for the future of the jackets getting talent to come over therei predict this guy is fired within the next year or two.


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