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Pitt, Syracuse apply to ACC, likely in on Sunday

Posted on: September 17, 2011 10:32 am
Edited on: September 18, 2011 12:14 am
 
TALLAHASSEE, Fla. - Pittsburgh and Syracuse submitted letters of application to the Atlantic Coast Conference and are "likely gone" from the Big East, high ranking ACC and Big East officials told CBSSports.com.

CBSSports.com's Gary Parrish reported Saturday afternoon that the league could vote to accept the two schools as early as Sunday. On Saturday night the ACC announced it would hold a media teleconference at 9:30 a.m. Sunday. The league did not specify what the teleconference was about, but the league's presidents are expected to formally vote to admit Pitt and Syracuse Sunday morning.

It's unknown if the schools could join the ACC next season.

Here’s the latest breakdown on what to expect among the six automatic qualifying conferences.

Pittsburgh and Syracuse independently submitted letters of application to the ACC, a league source told CBSSports.com.

Florida State President Eric Barron told The Associated Press on Saturday before the Seminoles played No. 1 Oklahoma that the ACC was excited about adding to its "northern tier."

"Pittsburgh and Syracuse, who have applied, these are solid academic schools, and the ACC is a truly academic conference," Barron said. "Certainly great basketball teams, a good history of football.

"I'm sure consideration will be very fast. I'll be surprised if it's not [Sunday]."

Earlier, a Big East official told CBSSports.com: "There is no scenario where a president applies to a league and isn't admitted."

Ironically, Pittsburgh chancellor Mark Nordenberg is the chairman of the Big East's executive committee. A Big East official added: "It's sort of like the fox in the hen house."

An ACC official said its league has been contacted by 10 schools, but the official would not disclose what conferences those schools were from. 

Also, at last week’s ACC presidents meeting in Greensboro, N.C., the league’s presidents “unanimously” voted to increase the ACC’s exit fee to $20 million. This takes affect immediately. The previous exit fee amount was $12 million to $15 million.

The loss of Syracuse and Pittsburgh could be devastating to the Big East. Syracuse was a founding member and Pittsburgh has been with the league since 1982.

An ACC official also indicated Texas has "reached out" to the ACC, but any speculation that Texas is joining the ACC is "premature."

An ACC official also said there is no timeline on expansion for the league.

In July, ACC commissioner John Swofford talked about expansion with CBSSports.com.

"I don't think it's inevitable, doesn't mean it won't happen," Swofford said. "That [going to 16 teams] is not easy to do. It's a very sexy subject to write about. It's easy to write about it and make those predictions, but if they don't come true nobody remembers you made those predictions. I think in talking [to other BCS commissioners] -- all of us -- what we want to do is what's best for our conference. We had some very thorough [talks] in the past year because of last summer -- that weren't very public -- but they were very thorough. Our preference is to remain at 12 [schools], we like 12 as the number. We're not crazy about 14 or 16 [schools] because it begins to change a number of things tangibly such as scheduling and intangibly such as culture.

"But we want to remain nimble enough so if we want to look in that direction we'll be ready to do that in very short order. Twelve [teams] works. It's not to say 14 or 16 can't work, it can. I don't think [16 team conferences] is inevitable, it's possible."

A Big East official said it's "common knowledge" among league members that Pittsburgh wants to get its name out in expansion talks.

The Big East, trying to survive all the conference realignment scenarios, has reached out to Texas, Texas Tech, Kansas, Kansas State, Missouri, Iowa State Baylor, said a Big 12 athletic director.

“Although I was obviously very disappointed to learn the news about the ACC’s being in discussions about membership with the University of Pittsburgh and Syracuse University, I continue to believe the Big East Conference is well positioned for the future and that the events of the past 24 hours will unify our membership," Big East commissioner John Marinatto said in a statement. "We have been working steadily to solidify and strengthen the Big East  Conference and position us for our upcoming TV negotiations and I am confident that we will again emerge from this situation and remain strong."

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Since: Dec 27, 2007
Posted on: September 17, 2011 9:36 pm
 

Big East official: Pitt, Syracuse "likely gone"


A Big East official said it's "common knowledge" among league members that Pittsburgh wants to get its name out in expansion talks.

The Big East, trying to survive all the conference realignment scenarios, had previously reached out to Kansas, Kansas State, Missouri and Baylor, said a Big 12 athletic director.

Football wise it actually weakens the ACC, if that is possible. It does strengthen and deepen their overrated basketball league. This move hurts hopes way more than football for the Big East. If Iowa State and Baylor join the Big East in football, the Big East actually has gotten stronger in that sport. Hoop-wise it hurts them.

You'll here a hue-and-cry for Notre Dame to join the Big East in football. That would be a huge get for them to go with TCU joining in 2012. If ND came with Baylor and Iowa State, the conference would be much stronger football-wise especially with 2 mediocre programs like Pitt and Syracuse leaving.




Since: Sep 28, 2008
Posted on: September 17, 2011 9:35 pm
 

Big East official: Pitt, Syracuse "likely gone"

Why all the haters? 

People are honestly saying Pitt and Syracuse won't be able to compete with Duke or North Carolina basketball?


Obviously you guys don't know anything about college basketball. We could compete with and beat these schools on a regular basis.


Morons.  



Since: Sep 28, 2008
Posted on: September 17, 2011 9:31 pm
 

Big East official: Pitt, Syracuse "likely gone"

As a Syracuse fan I have to say this:

THANK GOD!


The Big East's management over the last six or seven years has turned the conference into a joke. We might as well leave for a real BCS conference. Pitt and Syracuse athletics have brains.  



Since: Nov 18, 2008
Posted on: September 17, 2011 9:31 pm
 

Big East official: Pitt, Syracuse "likely gone"

I really don't understand this change. Welcome to being mediocre football schools in the much tougher ACC conference,and also don't look to be so great in basketball anymore either. Dumb move on Pitt and Syracuses parts.I don't know why the ACC would want some more Yankee schools anyway.



Since: Jun 18, 2011
Posted on: September 17, 2011 9:25 pm
 

Big East official: Pitt, Syracuse "likely gone"

Well, the Big East could continue as a basketball only conference with the the non-football members and (8 total) and invite two or more of the following schools: VCU, George Mason, Butler, UMass, Temple and or Xavier  as basketball only members and there you go.



Since: Mar 21, 2009
Posted on: September 17, 2011 9:16 pm
 

Big East official: Pitt, Syracuse "likely gone"

I think if Texas joins then Kansas follows as a package deal Texas brings everything and Kansas brings basketball. Now that really would be the best basketball conference. 


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Since: Jan 2, 2010
Posted on: September 17, 2011 8:38 pm
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Since: Sep 18, 2006
Posted on: September 17, 2011 8:28 pm
 

Big East official: Pitt, Syracuse "likely gone"

these 2 schools are leaving the big east?!  why?  football?  big east is bball!  these are 2 bball schools.  football is maybe their 2nd sport.  so why leave the big east?!  acc is going no where in football and these 2 do nothing for them.  i will definitely rout for both schools to lose every game if they're in acc.  i'm a cuse fan and hate duke but i guess i'm gonna have to cheer for the blue devils now if this happens. 




Since: Oct 30, 2009
Posted on: September 17, 2011 8:15 pm
 

Big East official: Pitt, Syracuse "likely gone"

Looks like a winner to me.




Since: Jan 2, 2007
Posted on: September 17, 2011 7:25 pm
 

Big East official: Pitt, Syracuse "likely gone"

Who cares if Texas is in your Conference if they are in the other division, you would only play them once every 4 or 8 years.

This is a very good observation, except it overlooks an important fact.  Assuming that the two divisions are North & South, then the Northern champion will play the Southern champ every year in the ACC Finals.  There is a real chance that the ACC would get national coverage every year since Texas - a likely regular Southern Div. champion - will be a marquee game regardless of the opponent.

The real problem with these super conferences is that they are built for football, but the schools compete in other sports like cross country and women's field hockey to name two sports - of many - that are not money makers.  Effectively, having two divisions helps off-set the problems associated with planning and paying for travel.  (Basketball is of course an exception, and it may be this sport that makes it enticing enough for Texas to make move to the ACC.)
 
Texas will help whichever conference they find themselves in; the ACC should make a big push for them and either Baylor or Texas Tech.


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