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Pitt, Syracuse apply to ACC, likely in on Sunday

Posted on: September 17, 2011 10:32 am
Edited on: September 18, 2011 12:14 am
 
TALLAHASSEE, Fla. - Pittsburgh and Syracuse submitted letters of application to the Atlantic Coast Conference and are "likely gone" from the Big East, high ranking ACC and Big East officials told CBSSports.com.

CBSSports.com's Gary Parrish reported Saturday afternoon that the league could vote to accept the two schools as early as Sunday. On Saturday night the ACC announced it would hold a media teleconference at 9:30 a.m. Sunday. The league did not specify what the teleconference was about, but the league's presidents are expected to formally vote to admit Pitt and Syracuse Sunday morning.

It's unknown if the schools could join the ACC next season.

Here’s the latest breakdown on what to expect among the six automatic qualifying conferences.

Pittsburgh and Syracuse independently submitted letters of application to the ACC, a league source told CBSSports.com.

Florida State President Eric Barron told The Associated Press on Saturday before the Seminoles played No. 1 Oklahoma that the ACC was excited about adding to its "northern tier."

"Pittsburgh and Syracuse, who have applied, these are solid academic schools, and the ACC is a truly academic conference," Barron said. "Certainly great basketball teams, a good history of football.

"I'm sure consideration will be very fast. I'll be surprised if it's not [Sunday]."

Earlier, a Big East official told CBSSports.com: "There is no scenario where a president applies to a league and isn't admitted."

Ironically, Pittsburgh chancellor Mark Nordenberg is the chairman of the Big East's executive committee. A Big East official added: "It's sort of like the fox in the hen house."

An ACC official said its league has been contacted by 10 schools, but the official would not disclose what conferences those schools were from. 

Also, at last week’s ACC presidents meeting in Greensboro, N.C., the league’s presidents “unanimously” voted to increase the ACC’s exit fee to $20 million. This takes affect immediately. The previous exit fee amount was $12 million to $15 million.

The loss of Syracuse and Pittsburgh could be devastating to the Big East. Syracuse was a founding member and Pittsburgh has been with the league since 1982.

An ACC official also indicated Texas has "reached out" to the ACC, but any speculation that Texas is joining the ACC is "premature."

An ACC official also said there is no timeline on expansion for the league.

In July, ACC commissioner John Swofford talked about expansion with CBSSports.com.

"I don't think it's inevitable, doesn't mean it won't happen," Swofford said. "That [going to 16 teams] is not easy to do. It's a very sexy subject to write about. It's easy to write about it and make those predictions, but if they don't come true nobody remembers you made those predictions. I think in talking [to other BCS commissioners] -- all of us -- what we want to do is what's best for our conference. We had some very thorough [talks] in the past year because of last summer -- that weren't very public -- but they were very thorough. Our preference is to remain at 12 [schools], we like 12 as the number. We're not crazy about 14 or 16 [schools] because it begins to change a number of things tangibly such as scheduling and intangibly such as culture.

"But we want to remain nimble enough so if we want to look in that direction we'll be ready to do that in very short order. Twelve [teams] works. It's not to say 14 or 16 can't work, it can. I don't think [16 team conferences] is inevitable, it's possible."

A Big East official said it's "common knowledge" among league members that Pittsburgh wants to get its name out in expansion talks.

The Big East, trying to survive all the conference realignment scenarios, has reached out to Texas, Texas Tech, Kansas, Kansas State, Missouri, Iowa State Baylor, said a Big 12 athletic director.

“Although I was obviously very disappointed to learn the news about the ACC’s being in discussions about membership with the University of Pittsburgh and Syracuse University, I continue to believe the Big East Conference is well positioned for the future and that the events of the past 24 hours will unify our membership," Big East commissioner John Marinatto said in a statement. "We have been working steadily to solidify and strengthen the Big East  Conference and position us for our upcoming TV negotiations and I am confident that we will again emerge from this situation and remain strong."

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Comments

Since: Mar 18, 2009
Posted on: September 17, 2011 3:06 pm
 

Big East official: Pitt, Syracuse "likely gone"

Gimpdog, as a Kansas fan I would like to welcome you to the "Oh no, I wish having a good basketball school mattered" club.



Since: Jun 26, 2011
Posted on: September 17, 2011 3:02 pm
 

Big East official: Pitt, Syracuse "likely gone"

If the SEC gets to 16, it's going to have to add some C-USA or Big East schools now.

I think the most interesting piece of this whole situation is going to be East Carolina. Does the SEC sneak in and grab them up if they plan on going to 16 or will the ACC continue the stranglehold on the state of North Carolina? Don't be surprised if Missouri sneaks into the conversation for SEC expansion as well




Since: Feb 2, 2007
Posted on: September 17, 2011 2:59 pm
 

Big East official: Pitt, Syracuse "likely gone"

I love how Pitt and SU fans are all of a sudden sayign things like, "Can't wait for UNC and Duke to come in and play awesome basketball games!" You'd think they were currently in a crappy conference....last I checked, playing the likes of UConn, Louisville, St. Johns, and 'Nova was just as amazing. Secondly, this isn't official yet so don't start buying your ACC gear just yet Pitt and 'Cuse fans. Lastly, while I envy the fact that these two schools are moving to a stable conference and my school, UConn may be on the outside looking in, it's disgusting how some fans are dissing the rest of the conference while saying the Big-12 should stay together and the Big East is just a waste and can melt into the MAC for all they care. It's just ridiculous. Hopefully everything will sort itself out (I hope!)



Since: Jan 6, 2010
Posted on: September 17, 2011 2:45 pm
 

Big East official: Pitt, Syracuse "likely gone"

As stated earlier, Pitt and Syracuse could be making a mistake by going ACC.  ACC football is weak and Pitt and Syracuse will greatly upgrade that image as both schools are on the road back to the glory days.  Regarding the BB the ACC will be a step downward for Pitt and Syracuse but a step up for the ACC...go figure.  Best bet...follow the money.



Since: Aug 21, 2006
Posted on: September 17, 2011 2:45 pm
 

Big East official: Pitt, Syracuse "likely gone"

I think a 16-team league could work. Suppose the ACC loses Florida State, Virginia Tech, and Clemson to the SEC
I stopped reading here. That's never going to happen.



Since: Aug 21, 2006
Posted on: September 17, 2011 2:44 pm
 

Big East official: Pitt, Syracuse "likely gone"

You miss the point, skyhawk.  I am saying the move goes through BECAUSE the SEC raids the ACC.  The Big East was in a position to RECEIVE new applicants, not lose them.  The only reason for the Pitt and Syracuse to bounce AND, at the same time, the ACC schools raise the buyout to $20M EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY, is that the ACC has already been raided, we just don't know about it yet.

And you're completely wrong. The Big East was never in any position to receive applicants. It was only in position to lose teams if and when the ACC, Big Ten and SEC decided to grow. From the moment Texas A&M said it was going to the SEC, the Big East was living on borrowed time.

The ACC, on the other hand, was never in position to lose teams. The reason for Pitt and Syracuse to bounce is because they know the SEC is almost certainly coming for West Virginia and they wanted to both beat the Mountaineers out the door and find a stable home. The ACC isn't losing anybody. This move and the increased buyout fee means the ACC is and will continue to be rock-solid.



Since: Nov 28, 2010
Posted on: September 17, 2011 2:42 pm
 

Big East official: Pitt, Syracuse "likely gone"

kyle, I don't know if you remember it or not, but the 16-team, four-"quadrant" thing's been done already and was a spectacular flop.  The WAC tried it in the early 90s, and led to the league breaking in half.  It was a nightmare to determine a champion. So if you're going to pair the quadrants into octaves to determine the two championship game participants, isn't it really a two-division league anyway?




Since: Nov 28, 2010
Posted on: September 17, 2011 2:27 pm
 

Big East official: Pitt, Syracuse "likely gone"

You miss the point, skyhawk.  I am saying the move goes through BECAUSE the SEC raids the ACC.  The Big East was in a position to RECEIVE new applicants, not lose them.  The only reason for the Pitt and Syracuse to bounce AND, at the same time, the ACC schools raise the buyout to $20M EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY, is that the ACC has already been raided, we just don't know about it yet.




Since: Jan 24, 2009
Posted on: September 17, 2011 2:23 pm
 

Big East official: Pitt, Syracuse "likely gone"

You make a GREAT point on Marinetto but your ESPN point makes ZERO sense... The TV rights to the ACC and Big East are not mutually exclusive. ESPN is not extending invitations and conducting meetings on conference movement. In fact, they did they're darndest to overpay the Big 12 last year after losing 2 schools to keep the status quo.



Since: Dec 11, 2009
Posted on: September 17, 2011 2:18 pm
 

Big East official: Pitt, Syracuse "likely gone"

Hey why dont you stick to the ACC SU draw in the NYC market is huge. Anyone in the northeast know that, SU basketball adds alot to the basketball side as for football lets be real next to the big east the ACC is the worst.


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