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Pitt, Syracuse apply to ACC, likely in on Sunday

Posted on: September 17, 2011 10:32 am
Edited on: September 18, 2011 12:14 am
 
TALLAHASSEE, Fla. - Pittsburgh and Syracuse submitted letters of application to the Atlantic Coast Conference and are "likely gone" from the Big East, high ranking ACC and Big East officials told CBSSports.com.

CBSSports.com's Gary Parrish reported Saturday afternoon that the league could vote to accept the two schools as early as Sunday. On Saturday night the ACC announced it would hold a media teleconference at 9:30 a.m. Sunday. The league did not specify what the teleconference was about, but the league's presidents are expected to formally vote to admit Pitt and Syracuse Sunday morning.

It's unknown if the schools could join the ACC next season.

Here’s the latest breakdown on what to expect among the six automatic qualifying conferences.

Pittsburgh and Syracuse independently submitted letters of application to the ACC, a league source told CBSSports.com.

Florida State President Eric Barron told The Associated Press on Saturday before the Seminoles played No. 1 Oklahoma that the ACC was excited about adding to its "northern tier."

"Pittsburgh and Syracuse, who have applied, these are solid academic schools, and the ACC is a truly academic conference," Barron said. "Certainly great basketball teams, a good history of football.

"I'm sure consideration will be very fast. I'll be surprised if it's not [Sunday]."

Earlier, a Big East official told CBSSports.com: "There is no scenario where a president applies to a league and isn't admitted."

Ironically, Pittsburgh chancellor Mark Nordenberg is the chairman of the Big East's executive committee. A Big East official added: "It's sort of like the fox in the hen house."

An ACC official said its league has been contacted by 10 schools, but the official would not disclose what conferences those schools were from. 

Also, at last week’s ACC presidents meeting in Greensboro, N.C., the league’s presidents “unanimously” voted to increase the ACC’s exit fee to $20 million. This takes affect immediately. The previous exit fee amount was $12 million to $15 million.

The loss of Syracuse and Pittsburgh could be devastating to the Big East. Syracuse was a founding member and Pittsburgh has been with the league since 1982.

An ACC official also indicated Texas has "reached out" to the ACC, but any speculation that Texas is joining the ACC is "premature."

An ACC official also said there is no timeline on expansion for the league.

In July, ACC commissioner John Swofford talked about expansion with CBSSports.com.

"I don't think it's inevitable, doesn't mean it won't happen," Swofford said. "That [going to 16 teams] is not easy to do. It's a very sexy subject to write about. It's easy to write about it and make those predictions, but if they don't come true nobody remembers you made those predictions. I think in talking [to other BCS commissioners] -- all of us -- what we want to do is what's best for our conference. We had some very thorough [talks] in the past year because of last summer -- that weren't very public -- but they were very thorough. Our preference is to remain at 12 [schools], we like 12 as the number. We're not crazy about 14 or 16 [schools] because it begins to change a number of things tangibly such as scheduling and intangibly such as culture.

"But we want to remain nimble enough so if we want to look in that direction we'll be ready to do that in very short order. Twelve [teams] works. It's not to say 14 or 16 can't work, it can. I don't think [16 team conferences] is inevitable, it's possible."

A Big East official said it's "common knowledge" among league members that Pittsburgh wants to get its name out in expansion talks.

The Big East, trying to survive all the conference realignment scenarios, has reached out to Texas, Texas Tech, Kansas, Kansas State, Missouri, Iowa State Baylor, said a Big 12 athletic director.

“Although I was obviously very disappointed to learn the news about the ACC’s being in discussions about membership with the University of Pittsburgh and Syracuse University, I continue to believe the Big East Conference is well positioned for the future and that the events of the past 24 hours will unify our membership," Big East commissioner John Marinatto said in a statement. "We have been working steadily to solidify and strengthen the Big East  Conference and position us for our upcoming TV negotiations and I am confident that we will again emerge from this situation and remain strong."

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Since: Mar 15, 2008
Posted on: September 17, 2011 2:15 pm
 

Big East official: Pitt, Syracuse "likely gone"

so what? two more mediocre teams to add to the ACC which is already the epitomy of mediocrity



Since: Aug 21, 2006
Posted on: September 17, 2011 2:09 pm
 

Big East official: Pitt, Syracuse "likely gone"

The sense I get from these moves is not expansion for the ACC, but replacement.  Meaning the SEC is about to raid the ACC.
Except if this goes through, now the SEC can't raid the ACC. With a stronger league in place, Florida State won't leave. If Florida State won't leave, Virginia Tech won't leave. Basically, the ACC has blocked the SEC's eastward expansion. If the SEC gets to 16, it's going to have to add some C-USA or Big East schools now.



Since: Nov 9, 2008
Posted on: September 17, 2011 2:09 pm
 

Big East official: Pitt, Syracuse "likely gone"

I think a 16-team league could work. Suppose the ACC loses Florida State, Virginia Tech, and Clemson to the SEC and adds USF, Pittsburgh, Rutgers, West Virginia, Syracuse, UConn, and UCF to form a 16 team league. Divide the league into four "quadrants" and give each team on rival in each of the other three quadrants. That's six opponents that each team would play every year. Then, every season, pair the quadrants off to form two 8-team divisions, and each team would simply play the remaining 3 teams in their division for a total of 9 games. The winner of each division would play in the championship game.

Suppose the quadrants are:

NORTHEAST
Boston College
Connecticut
Syracuse
Rutgers

MID-ATLANTIC
Pittsburgh
Maryland
West Virginia
Virginia

CAROLINA
North Carolina
Duke
North Carolina State
Wake Forest

SOUTHEAST
Miami
Central Florida
South Florida
Georgia Tech

Let's use West Virginia as an example. Suppose their cross-quadrant rivals are Syracuse, North Carolina State, and South Florida. Then in years where WVU's quadrant is paired in a division with the Northeast, their schedule would be.

Maryland
Pittsburgh
Virginia
Syracuse
North Carolina State
South Florida
Boston College
Rutgers
Connecticut

Similarly, when their quadrant is the Carolina quadrant, or the Southeast, the Mountaineers schedule would look like:

Maryland
Pittsburgh
Virginia
Syracuse
North Carolina State
South Florida
North Carolina
Wake Forest
Duke

and

Maryland
Pittsburgh
Virginia
Syracuse
North Carolina State
South Florida
Central Florida
Miami-FL
Georgia Tech



Since: Mar 28, 2007
Posted on: September 17, 2011 2:07 pm
 

Big East official: Pitt, Syracuse "likely gone"

As an ACC fan I really don't like seeing Pitt and Syracuse in the conference. They don't add that much, and the whole "Syracuse delivers the NYC tv market" is a joke, because they don't (it's a pro town and doesn't watch the freakin' Orange). It can only get worse if we end up with West Virginia too. Inevitable though and a good business decision which, of course, trumps everything these days. God, does this mean Snookie and the Situation will show up, too?



Since: Aug 21, 2006
Posted on: September 17, 2011 2:06 pm
 

Big East official: Pitt, Syracuse "likely gone"

Is this football only or everything cause man lacrosse will end up crazy... cuse, terp, UVa, UNC and Duke... guess they can get FSU to finally move up to DI and they can all pound on them...
The ACC requires a school to compete in the ACC in every sport it plays. That's how it's always been. If Syracuse comes, the lacrosse team will be an ACC member.



Since: Oct 3, 2009
Posted on: September 17, 2011 2:05 pm
 

Big East official: Pitt, Syracuse "likely gone"

Sad, really. But that's the way it is now. Maybe time to start thinking about a future where the NCAA is run more like a pro league with a central administration, and four to six "divisions".



Since: Sep 17, 2011
Posted on: September 17, 2011 2:02 pm
 

seeing as how today's match-ups might be the last

time a majority of these teams line up on the same field, since it seems everyone will be in a new conference soon, might as well watch and enjoy the games today - here's where to watch the match-ups today online 



Since: Sep 19, 2007
Posted on: September 17, 2011 1:35 pm
 

Big East official: Pitt, Syracuse "likely gone"

Boston College and Pitt were also a part of that lawsuit (Syracuse was he only school who was not) and that doesn't seem to be a problem.  I highly doubt that would be a reason to keep UConn from joining the ACC.  I despise the Huskies but I would really like to see them come along to the party.  If I have to lose the Georgetown rivalry, can I at least keep the Huskies?  It's a natural fit geographically, and their football program is solid.  Seems logical to me.



Since: Nov 28, 2010
Posted on: September 17, 2011 1:12 pm
 

Big East official: Pitt, Syracuse "likely gone"

The sense I get from these moves is not expansion for the ACC, but replacement.  Meaning the SEC is about to raid the ACC.  For the record, I'm against super-conferences altogether, but the SEC has already overruled me with the invite of A&M.  Maybe the legal challenges will nix the A&M deal.




Since: Oct 17, 2007
Posted on: September 17, 2011 1:11 pm
 

Big East official: Pitt, Syracuse "likely gone"

The black hand of espn strikes again. They control the ACC and were worried about losing the tv rights to the big east next year. I'm absolutely disgusted. Marinetto and the rest of the do-nothing gang in Providence are too blame as well. Good bye Big East, you deserve to die.


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