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Big 12 commish: league will be 10 teams in 2012

Posted on: October 11, 2011 11:04 am
Edited on: October 11, 2011 11:21 am
Big 12 interim commissioner Chuck Neinas said Tuesday his league will give Missouri as much time as it needs – until the end of this academic year, if necessary – to make a decision whether to remain in the Big 12 or leave for the SEC. 

“There’s no timetable,” Neinas said. “Everything is in place. We’re preparing for 2012. We’ll see what occurs.”

Neinas said he has had recent decisions with SEC commissioner Mike Slive. Neinas said he told Slive “if you’re going to extend an invitation to Missouri please let me know.” 

Neinas also said no matter what decision Missouri makes, the Big 12 would be a 10-team league in 2012 - with Missouri and new member TCU

"If Missouri is going to change horses (conferences), it won't be for 2012 anyway," Neinas said.

Whether the Big 12 eventually grows to 12 teams, there has been no decision made, Neinas said. 

“There is no consensus from conference members on going to 10 or 12 members,” Neinas said.

Neinas added there was some support last month for staying at nine teams (if Missouri left for the SEC), but that was no longer the thinking about league members. 

“The idea (with or without Missouri) would be (for the Big 12 membership) 10 or 12 teams,” Neinas said. “It won’t be 16.”

The decision to expand to 12 would have a big impact on the Big East. Sources have told that Louisville is the top candidate of the Big 12 if the league adds one member and if it expands by more than one, West Virginia is another strong candidate. 

Neinas did not discuss any potential expansion candidates on Tuesday’s conference call.

He did say, however, that an Associated Press report that Missouri could make $12 million more annually in a 14-team SEC was not accurate. 

“They (a 14-team SEC) would have to increase their television revenue by $168 million,” Neinas said.

The Big 12’s interim commissioner said Missouri reacted “favorably” to the addition of TCU. He also added Texas will continue to have a nationally televised Thanksgiving game, but with Texas A&M gone to the SEC, the Longhorns’ opponent for future seasons has not been determined. It, in all likelihood, will not be against TCU, Neinas said.


Since: Feb 20, 2010
Posted on: October 11, 2011 8:06 pm

Big 12 commish: league will be 10 teams in 2012

They didn't go 11-2. It was 12-2. I apologize for the typo.

Since: Feb 20, 2010
Posted on: October 11, 2011 8:05 pm

Big 12 commish: league will be 10 teams in 2012

When I said nationally relevant, I meant in the BCS bowls. Wait, scratch that: I meant winning their conference, let alone a BCS bowl. I'm not doubting the fact Mizzou has had some very good years. I'm aware of the years they went 11-2, 10-3, 10-4. And you're right, they have been in the top 5 several times, but not at the end of the year. Like I said, I have tremendous respect for the University of Missouri, and they are consistently a tough and competitive team, but let's don't kid ourselves. All we have to do is look at the facts: The last time Missouri won a conference championship was 1969.

I definitely it is best for Mizzou and the Big 12 to keep the Tigers in the conference. Mizzou has a rich history in the Big 8 and losing them would hurt. I wasn't pointing any jabs at Mizzou at all. I just think that them going to the SEC would be a disservice to the University of Missouri, the Big 12, and the entire Midwest. Years of tradition and rivalries would be lost. Plus I see them having more opportunity in the Big 12.  

Since: Aug 21, 2006
Posted on: October 11, 2011 7:42 pm

Big 12 commish: league will be 10 teams in 2012

I think what Neinas is saying is that he doesn't care if Missouri stays or goes. And who honestly cares about Missouri except for delusional Missouri anyways? All the drama for what is firmly a second tier school and program is kind of silly. The Big 12 should just kick them out at this point and court BYU. What an upgrade that would be.  

Since: Jun 2, 2011
Posted on: October 11, 2011 7:37 pm

Big 12 commish: league will be 10 teams in 2012

"When is the last time either of them were nationally relevant?"

Um, Mizzou's football program has been ranked nationally for the past several years including several times ranked as the number one team in the nation.  And one year they were one game away from going to the national title, until they lost the Big 12 Championship game to OU.  (The only team Mizzou lost to that year.)

Mizzou has been relevant and the SEC would get more than one market by adding them, they would get two (Kansas City and St. Louis).  I still think they need to stay in the Big 12, but only time will tell.

Since: Feb 20, 2010
Posted on: October 11, 2011 7:26 pm

Big 12 commish: league will be 10 teams in 2012

I don;t think Mizzou to SEC makes any sense on both sides. Yes the SEC adds another market. But what do they gain besides that? Academics is the only other thing I can think of. Mizzou has always been a competitive team in all sports, but never has excelled at any... If the SEC is as big and bad as they say they are, they would go after better programs to add other than A&M and Mizzou. When is the last time either of them were nationally relevant? The last time A&M was, they became part of an NCAA investigation.

I have tremendous respect for both A&M and Mizzou, but adding them does not boost your football status. Both will be marginal teams added and that's it. SEC should be going after schools with more prestige, and a better national history. 

I laugh when people say that Texas A&M adds to the Texas market. Here's the truth: I live in Houston, and you see Longhorns games on TV every night. I don't see to many Aggies games, only several a year. The Longhorns rule the state, and every other team is secondary here. Plus, the SEC already has a lot of pull in the Texas market.  I'm curious to see how the recruiting in Aggieland and how it will change. They are going to lose the recruits that join the Aggies only to beat the Horns, but they should also gain more recruits outside of Texas. It will definitely be an interesting few years to follow.

SEC needs to Va Tech instead of Mizzou. It just makes too much sense.  

Since: Sep 23, 2011
Posted on: October 11, 2011 6:51 pm

Big 12 commish: league will be 10 teams in 2012

I would like Mizzou to stay in the Big 12. That is where its natural rivals are. A move to the SEC makes no sense except for possible financial advantages, which are, as this article suggests, in doubt. If Mizzou chooses to leave the Big 12, I would like to see the conference keep it simple by adding only one replacement, the U. of Houston, which is an old natural rival of the other Texas schools. If Mizzou stays and the conference still chooses to expand by two schools, then I hope the conference will consider adding Houston and another school that is not too far outside the conference's current borders, such as Louisville, Memphis, or Tulane. I think schools such as BYU and West Virginia, while they are good at football, are too far away from the other schools and will have no compelling rivalries within the Big 12.

Since: Sep 2, 2011
Posted on: October 11, 2011 6:26 pm

Big 12 commish: league will be 10 teams in 2012

Syracuse is off to the ACC. Air Force and BYU said no to the Big 12. They're looting the Big East as soon as Missouri makes up its mind.<br />

Since: Jul 30, 2007
Posted on: October 11, 2011 5:01 pm

Big 12 commish: league will be 10 teams in 2012

What about BYU? I thought the Cougars were the top candidate?

Since: Jul 28, 2011
Posted on: October 11, 2011 4:58 pm
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Since: Nov 24, 2009
Posted on: October 11, 2011 4:47 pm

Big 12 commish: league will be 10 teams in 2012

the Big 12 bylaws are weak and if Mizzou decides to leave by Dec 1 they will be treated just like Tex A&M. The commish cannot make them stay through 2012



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