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Big 12 commish: league will be 10 teams in 2012

Posted on: October 11, 2011 11:04 am
Edited on: October 11, 2011 11:21 am
Big 12 interim commissioner Chuck Neinas said Tuesday his league will give Missouri as much time as it needs – until the end of this academic year, if necessary – to make a decision whether to remain in the Big 12 or leave for the SEC. 

“There’s no timetable,” Neinas said. “Everything is in place. We’re preparing for 2012. We’ll see what occurs.”

Neinas said he has had recent decisions with SEC commissioner Mike Slive. Neinas said he told Slive “if you’re going to extend an invitation to Missouri please let me know.” 

Neinas also said no matter what decision Missouri makes, the Big 12 would be a 10-team league in 2012 - with Missouri and new member TCU

"If Missouri is going to change horses (conferences), it won't be for 2012 anyway," Neinas said.

Whether the Big 12 eventually grows to 12 teams, there has been no decision made, Neinas said. 

“There is no consensus from conference members on going to 10 or 12 members,” Neinas said.

Neinas added there was some support last month for staying at nine teams (if Missouri left for the SEC), but that was no longer the thinking about league members. 

“The idea (with or without Missouri) would be (for the Big 12 membership) 10 or 12 teams,” Neinas said. “It won’t be 16.”

The decision to expand to 12 would have a big impact on the Big East. Sources have told that Louisville is the top candidate of the Big 12 if the league adds one member and if it expands by more than one, West Virginia is another strong candidate. 

Neinas did not discuss any potential expansion candidates on Tuesday’s conference call.

He did say, however, that an Associated Press report that Missouri could make $12 million more annually in a 14-team SEC was not accurate. 

“They (a 14-team SEC) would have to increase their television revenue by $168 million,” Neinas said.

The Big 12’s interim commissioner said Missouri reacted “favorably” to the addition of TCU. He also added Texas will continue to have a nationally televised Thanksgiving game, but with Texas A&M gone to the SEC, the Longhorns’ opponent for future seasons has not been determined. It, in all likelihood, will not be against TCU, Neinas said.


Since: Jan 31, 2009
Posted on: October 11, 2011 2:17 pm

Big 12 commish: league will be 10 teams in 2012

Oh, sure--as if Kentucky is going to allow Louisville to play in their conference much less their division.

Since: Sep 21, 2011
Posted on: October 11, 2011 2:04 pm

Big 12 commish: league will be 10 teams in 2012

It sounds like Neinas is taking control of the situation, without throwing a temper tantrum.  Time is running out for changing next years schedules. So his statement about 10 teams sounds reasonable.  You can fine a School but you can't keep a unhappy school for very long so why make it sound like you can.

Missori needs to take their time and decide what is best for them.  If it is the SEC then the SEC will have to agree.  This will take time, it appears that the SEC is in no hurry.

If I were in charge of the Big 12 I might plan for a 12 team league in the next 2 or 3 years (adding WV and Louiville if Missori stays).

If it appears that the superconf. era is going to happen, be ready to add (BYU, Boise, Cincy, and Memphis).



Since: Sep 12, 2006
Posted on: October 11, 2011 1:52 pm

Big 12 commish: league will be 10 teams in 2012

If the SEC wants to be a superconference, they should go grab South Florida and Louisville from the Big East and Louisiana Tech from the WAC

Louisiana Tech?  That would add NOTHING to the SEC.  They would better off with Houston or SMU than La Tech.

Since: Aug 17, 2011
Posted on: October 11, 2011 1:51 pm

Big 12 commish: league will be 10 teams in 2012

LSUTiger.....the commish most certainly can keep Missouri in place.....for at least one season.  Othersise, the conference can stick it to them in monetary compensation.  MU just can't pick up and leave on a whip without contingencies in place.  MU WILL be in the conference in 2012 whether they like it or not.

Since: May 5, 2008
Posted on: October 11, 2011 1:29 pm

Big 12 commish: league will be 10 teams in 2012

not exactly sure what the bylaws state, but I am not sure the BIG 12 can force anybody to stay where they dont want to be.


is the Big 12 commish that dumb?

adding the Texas market to the SEC is BIG

Adding the Missou market is BIG (although maybe not as big as Texas)

do you think SEC has some bargaining crystals to work with???

uh?  YEAH!

Since: Jan 21, 2010
Posted on: October 11, 2011 1:28 pm

Big 12 commish: league will be 10 teams in 2012

If the SEC wants to be a superconference, they should go grab South Florida and Louisville from the Big East and Louisiana Tech from the WAC. Then they could have 16 teams in 4 pods as follows:

Western Pod: Texas A&M, Arkansas, Louisiana State, Louisiana Tech    
Southern Pod: Mississippi, Mississippi State, Alabama, Auburn
Northern Pod: Kentucky, Louisville, Tennessee, Vanderbilt
Eastern Pod: South Carolina, Georgia, Florida, South Florida.

And voila! the SEC has it's 16-team superconference.

But stop picking on the Big 12!      

Since: Jan 19, 2008
Posted on: October 11, 2011 1:22 pm

Big 12 commish: league will be 10 teams in 2012

That seems like a logical plan. I do believe Neinas is trying to be forthcoming on the issue. Why give Missouri an ultimatum and force them out? Why not let Missouri make the next move? Why add Big East teams at this point and be the bad guy that destroys the conference, when you don't even know how many teams you need and how soon you will need them? Louisville isn't going anywhere. And why go to 16 teams as a knee jerk reaction? 12 teams is a good number, and lets you do everything you want with divisions and a conference championship. If there aren't 6-7 good teams to add, why do it? Louisville works: top 50 TV market, in a virtual tie with Austin; outstanding basketball tradition; and good enough football. BYU and WVU are not out of the question. Even Cininnati is a possibility. But Louisville is a good option #1. So I believe Neinas and think that the Big 12 has a fighting chance to survive and eventually thrive.

Since: Nov 5, 2006
Posted on: October 11, 2011 12:13 pm

Big 12 commish: league will be 10 teams in 2012

believe nothing that you read. Neinas also said on Gameday a couple of weeks ago that another Texas team would not be considered. Last time I checked Fort Worth was in Texas. Until the SEC makes up their mind and the Big East tries to turn themselves into the Big East, West, South and North then you will know. Why does he feel that Missouri if they go will be in the Big 12 next year, not happening. If they accept the invite if given they will join at the same time as the aggies.

Since: Apr 5, 2011
Posted on: October 11, 2011 12:11 pm

Big 12 commish: league will be 10 teams in 2012

This actually makes a lot of sense.  If they slow down the realignment process a bit, it gives conferences time to really think through their options and look at long term TV revenue.  Quickly absorbing teams without renegotiating actually dilutes the revenue.  This could actually save the Big East as teams won't get poached as quickly.  The Big 12 likes ten teams, but I think they realize they need to get to 12 and a championship game if all the other AQ conferences have one, but 2013 could be the year to add one as they will start re-negotiating Tier I rights in 2014 that may end up dwarfing the SEC's deal that is now diluted by adding TAMU.  Its interesting that Missou potentially could have a made a few more million by going to the SEC next year but with further dilution there was no guarantee.  They would have lost money that year paying the exit fee.  We could see Missou stay in the Big 12 long term as they really have no place to go.  The Big East stands to gain the most if they can lure teams in, get back to 12, hold a championship game and procure a Big TV deal.

Since: Sep 23, 2011
Posted on: October 11, 2011 12:09 pm

Big 12 commish: league will be 10 teams in 2012

Louisville to the Big 12 doesn't make since. If the SEC doesn't want Missouri and can't get Virginia Tech or Georgia Tech then they should grab Louisville. It would help market wise for their basketball tv deal, which is a factor. They make a ton off of that as well.

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