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Big East plotting football, hoops divisions

Posted on: October 11, 2011 1:50 pm

Officials from what’s left of the Big East’s dwindling football membership had another conference call on Tuesday morning and there remains no specific timetable on adding UCF, but “appears an invitation is forthcoming” for the Knights, the league’s No. 1 target.

The presidents, chancellors and athletic directors continued to discuss potential expansion candidates. Among those mentioned were UCF, Air Force, Navy, Temple, Houston, SMU and Boise State, a league source told

While Commissioner John Marinatto said in a statement Monday the league would consider a model with 12 football members, part of Tuesday’s call was discussing the possibility of splitting the football and basketball conference into divisions, once the football side is replenished.

Navy, Air Force and Boise State are being considered as football members only, while UCF, Temple, Houston and SMU are at the top of the list as all-sports members so it’s unknown right now how large the basketball membership could grow.

The Newark Star-Ledger reported one proposed alignment discussed at Tuesday’s meeting consisted of Rutgers, UConn, South Florida, UCF, Temple and Navy in an East Division with West Virginia, Louisville, Cincinnati, Air Force, SMU and Houston in a West Division.

However, there remains the very real possibility Louisville and West Virginia may not be in the league and bound for the Big 12 if Missouri leaves for the SEC or the Big 12 expands to 12 teams.

What make Temple, SMU and Houston attractive to the Big East, one source said, is their respective television markets. Philadelphia (Temple) is the nation’s No. 4 market, Dallas (SMU) is No. 5 and Houston is No. 10.

Beyond Navy, Air Force and UCF, a league source said “no one team is definitely next” as an expansion candidate.

There also appears to be conflicting opinions on pursuing Boise State. Some league members support adding Boise State because of the Broncos’ recent success, which would help the league with its future BCS status. However, others believe Boise State, located nearly 700 miles west of Air Force and nearly 2,200 miles from Tampa/USF, is simply too far to consider.

Boise State president Bob Kustra said in a statement Monday that the Broncos “are looking forward to their inaugural season” in the Mountain West Conference and he “has great confidence in the future direction of the Mountain West.”

“While we are certainly flattered to be mentioned in connection with other conferences and we hold those leagues in high regard, our current focus is on continuing to build the outstanding athletic programs that have helped make Boise State a popular and compelling national brand," Kustra said.

“The landscape of college athletics is exceptionally fluid, and we are continuing to monitor the situation. We are confident that Boise State will be well positioned for future success, and we will evaluate our status with the best interests of the entire university in mind. Boise State’s athletic achievements, academic and research successes, popularity, and vision for future growth make the university an extremely valuable conference partner.”

A league source also told that Army is no longer being considered as a candidate by the Big East. “They’ve been honest with us and that they’re not interested because of the challenges they had previously in Conference USA,” the source said.

Army was in C-USA from 1998-2004. The Cadets were 9-41 in C-USA play and finished last in the league five of the seven seasons.


Since: Oct 6, 2011
Posted on: October 12, 2011 5:52 pm

Big East plotting football, hoops divisions

For those opposed to adding the service academies to the Big East, I offer the following:

Navy center to opposing Noseguard - "We're going to run the ball on this play".

Opposing Noseguard to Navy Center after play - "Ouch!  Get off of me!"     


Since: Oct 5, 2011
Posted on: October 12, 2011 5:32 pm

"Gulf Coast Conference"

A mix of Big East and C-USA schools from the South would be formidable at football than the proposed Big East expansion:

GCC West:

GCC East:
GA STATE (invest now)

Since: Jul 9, 2010
Posted on: October 12, 2011 4:59 pm

Big East plotting football, hoops divisions

The ACC has 12 great universities and soon to be 14, all located up and down the Atlantic Coast.  ECU will NOT be invited to the ACC because there are already 4 universities from North Carolina in the conference.  These four universities in NC were members of the ACC when the conference was founded, 59 years ago. East Carolina belongs in the BIG EAST both geographically and because they are a competitive fit.
West Virginia University WILL NOT be a member of the ACC, B1G and most likely the SEC regardless of how large these conferences may get in the future !!!!!

Since: Oct 30, 2007
Posted on: October 12, 2011 4:05 pm

Big East plotting football, hoops divisions

WVU is the one trying to keep the big east together. They were turned down by the SEC. The ACC wants nothing to do with them and their TV market is almost non existant. I've heard people say that Washington DC is part of the WVU market. That's bunk. WVU's market is limited to Appalachia. Half of those people dont even have electricity let alone own TV's. I live an hour away from Morgantown, in Pittsburgh, and the only time you hear about WVU is for the backyard brawl. WVU has other issues as well. The facilities are subpar and their considered to be a poor addition due to academics. If WVU could leave for the Big XII they would have already left. There is only one reason why the Big LEast will continue to operate as a football conference and that is because WVU does not want to become an independent again. They are trying to scrap and claw to save a conference that will definitely loose it's AQ status in 2014.

Since: Jan 29, 2008
Posted on: October 12, 2011 3:35 pm

Big East plotting football, hoops divisions

Classy and hilarious, from the school that ducked out of the conference like a thief in the night.  Can't win jack in the BE, might as well try somewhere else...

Since: Mar 19, 2008
Posted on: October 12, 2011 2:53 pm

Big East plotting football, hoops divisions

ECU will never get into the ACC and if the Big East is dumb enough to pass on them then I say ECU should work with some other schools to form a new conf. Conference USA is too large and traveling has to be a pain for them, they need some more regional rivals to play against.

Since: Mar 17, 2008
Posted on: October 12, 2011 2:19 pm

Big East plotting football, hoops divisions

As a Big East fan, I would rather not have ECU in our conference, they belong in the ACC. I like the ideal of Temple, UCF,Air Force, Navy, Houston and SMU. I live in NC and East Carolina only gets a small byine in the sports pages here, Duke and WF get more press then ECU does. I have nothing personal against ECU, they seem to be very respectable in Football and Baseball, and when the ACC decides to go to 16 they should be at the top of the list, they would fit perfectly into the ACC, although their basketball isn;t ready for the ACC or the Big East. ECU should start politicing for ACC entrance, Va politiced for Va Tech and got them in so why aren't the NC schools trying to help one of their own get in like Virginia did. Lets hope ESPN talks to the ACC commissioner and tells him what to do with this and helps ECU out.

Since: Sep 22, 2011
Posted on: October 12, 2011 2:10 pm

Big East plotting football, hoops divisions

Honestly IMHO what makes more sense than anything else is that for football the Big East and the Mountain West do a merger.  The Mountain West plays all but a couple of their in conference games in the Mountain West and vice-versa for the Big East and then each team can play a couple of games with their eastern or western counterparts as the case might be.  The winner of the Big East and the Mountain West then play each other.  This would prevent an absolute Geographical nightmare (having to travel thousands of miles for any game that isn't at home) would help expand the footprint of both conferences and allow them to keep their AQ status with 2 perrenial ranked teams (Boise State and West Virginia) provided they could keep WVU around.  Thing is that all of these teams mentioned, while they add media markets DO NOTHING to help AQ status (barring Boise State).  When was the last time that Temple, Navy, Air Force, UCF, ECU, SMU, etc. ranked in the top 25 throughout the season for several years running?  For those who have played in conference how many of them have consistently won their Non-AQ conference for the majority of the last decade?  Exactly, none of them.  It's one thing to add them in conjuction to other consistently ranked teams but to just add all of those teams and expect to save their AQ status is a joke.  The scenario I posted would be the best course of action for both conferences. 

Since: May 14, 2008
Posted on: October 12, 2011 1:05 pm

Big East plotting football, hoops divisions

Please let the Big East die.  WVU is a really good team and if they add all these rejects to the Big East they will never get to leave.  I bet WVU is hoping football dies in the Big East because surely they would go to SEC, ACC or Big 12.  The only schools that want the Big East to survive are schools that are already in lesser conferences (which seems impossible) and the teams in the Big East that suck anyway.  Everyone will be better off without Big East football and seeing a bunch of awful teams battling for an actual BCS Bowl--what a joke!

Since: Aug 27, 2010
Posted on: October 12, 2011 12:44 pm

Big East plotting football, hoops divisions

ECU? Please.

As for WVU and why everyone says their football team and it's fans are like family.......well they are all related so that makes sense!

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