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Big East plotting football, hoops divisions

Posted on: October 11, 2011 1:50 pm

Officials from what’s left of the Big East’s dwindling football membership had another conference call on Tuesday morning and there remains no specific timetable on adding UCF, but “appears an invitation is forthcoming” for the Knights, the league’s No. 1 target.

The presidents, chancellors and athletic directors continued to discuss potential expansion candidates. Among those mentioned were UCF, Air Force, Navy, Temple, Houston, SMU and Boise State, a league source told

While Commissioner John Marinatto said in a statement Monday the league would consider a model with 12 football members, part of Tuesday’s call was discussing the possibility of splitting the football and basketball conference into divisions, once the football side is replenished.

Navy, Air Force and Boise State are being considered as football members only, while UCF, Temple, Houston and SMU are at the top of the list as all-sports members so it’s unknown right now how large the basketball membership could grow.

The Newark Star-Ledger reported one proposed alignment discussed at Tuesday’s meeting consisted of Rutgers, UConn, South Florida, UCF, Temple and Navy in an East Division with West Virginia, Louisville, Cincinnati, Air Force, SMU and Houston in a West Division.

However, there remains the very real possibility Louisville and West Virginia may not be in the league and bound for the Big 12 if Missouri leaves for the SEC or the Big 12 expands to 12 teams.

What make Temple, SMU and Houston attractive to the Big East, one source said, is their respective television markets. Philadelphia (Temple) is the nation’s No. 4 market, Dallas (SMU) is No. 5 and Houston is No. 10.

Beyond Navy, Air Force and UCF, a league source said “no one team is definitely next” as an expansion candidate.

There also appears to be conflicting opinions on pursuing Boise State. Some league members support adding Boise State because of the Broncos’ recent success, which would help the league with its future BCS status. However, others believe Boise State, located nearly 700 miles west of Air Force and nearly 2,200 miles from Tampa/USF, is simply too far to consider.

Boise State president Bob Kustra said in a statement Monday that the Broncos “are looking forward to their inaugural season” in the Mountain West Conference and he “has great confidence in the future direction of the Mountain West.”

“While we are certainly flattered to be mentioned in connection with other conferences and we hold those leagues in high regard, our current focus is on continuing to build the outstanding athletic programs that have helped make Boise State a popular and compelling national brand," Kustra said.

“The landscape of college athletics is exceptionally fluid, and we are continuing to monitor the situation. We are confident that Boise State will be well positioned for future success, and we will evaluate our status with the best interests of the entire university in mind. Boise State’s athletic achievements, academic and research successes, popularity, and vision for future growth make the university an extremely valuable conference partner.”

A league source also told that Army is no longer being considered as a candidate by the Big East. “They’ve been honest with us and that they’re not interested because of the challenges they had previously in Conference USA,” the source said.

Army was in C-USA from 1998-2004. The Cadets were 9-41 in C-USA play and finished last in the league five of the seven seasons.


Since: Nov 2, 2006
Posted on: October 11, 2011 8:59 pm

Big East plotting football, hoops divisions

No Big "East" full members west of the Mississippi River! Let me repeat: No Big "East" full members west of the Mississippi River!

Since: Oct 15, 2006
Posted on: October 11, 2011 8:50 pm

Big East plotting football, hoops divisions

too bad no one wants west virginia....

Since: Oct 26, 2006
Posted on: October 11, 2011 8:42 pm

Big East plotting football, hoops divisions

You know what is funny gasman? You look like you're making shizz up again. Where are you seeing posts from WVU fans worried about Boise State. Give me a freakin' break. Most WVU fans want to see their team in the SEC. So you're trying to claim WVU fans would be scared to see their team play BSU every year? Get real...

Since: Sep 7, 2006
Posted on: October 11, 2011 8:16 pm

Big East plotting football, hoops divisions

Boise St stays out west, guaranteed

Since: Mar 26, 2009
Posted on: October 11, 2011 7:57 pm

Big East plotting football, hoops divisions

Funny how I hear West Virginia fans talking about dominating the Big East in football....and now with the talk of WVU being in the same division as Boise State it's ...UH-OH!!! 

Since: Oct 10, 2011
Posted on: October 11, 2011 7:36 pm

Big East plotting football, hoops divisions

DCPirate28 Wrote "Liontime has it right, the federal government funds the service academies....".  Not entirely true.  Navy athletics are run by not-for-profits orgs.  The Naval Academy Athletic Association runs all Navy sports.  No federal (re: taxpayer) monies are directly involved.  In fact the Navy-ND game, AKA the million dollar game, funds a big portion of all Navy athletics.  I do think that AF's coach is paid by the govt while Navy's is paid from the NAAA.  At one time Fisher DeBerry was the highest paid federal employee. I am not sure if AF is completely non-profit run but I know they are at in part non-profit run.

Since: Jan 1, 2007
Posted on: October 11, 2011 6:46 pm

Big East plotting football, hoops divisions

Boise? Might as well change the name to the Big West... Big Western Hemisphere.

Since: Sep 5, 2011
Posted on: October 11, 2011 6:12 pm

Big East plotting football, hoops divisions

To: Liontime

I agree that adding the service academies makes it harder to remove the BE's BCS AQ status. 

The SEC recently suggested that the BCS considers removing the limit of 2-teams from a conference.  If no more BCS bowls are being added, then at least 1 AQ conference must lose their bid.

The BE's AQ will probably be removed by a back-door approach. 

Rather than saying "remove from the BE", the policies would be reworded to the "top xx teams based upon polls".  Technically, then any conference could lose a spot in a BCS bowl.  Its just unlikely those conference that dominate the top positions in the polls, year-after-year, would lose any spots.  But they might gain some.

Suggest people visit the BCS website at   The website follows the same design patterns as that used by one of the tv outlets.

Since: Sep 5, 2011
Posted on: October 11, 2011 6:00 pm

Big East plotting football, hoops divisions

Have seen a news story where the AD at Boston College said ESPN told the ACC to invite 'Cuse and Pitt.

Some are concerned this could be payback for refusing last summer to signing a contract extension with ESPN.  Some think ESPN was afraid the BE would offer their games to CBSSports or one of the other sports networks.

Crumbling the Big East while building up a conference under contract is like a godfather offer.  Nothing personal, just business.

Its the fans and college traditions, that get destroyed by all this.


Since: Jun 28, 2011
Posted on: October 11, 2011 5:59 pm

Big East plotting football, hoops divisions

That is simply retarded to Have Boise St and West V in the same division. West V will be with the more southern schools if this goes through. 

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