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Boise, 3 more could get Big East invite next week

Posted on: October 14, 2011 1:58 pm
Edited on: October 14, 2011 7:11 pm
Once divided on whether to invite Boise State, the Big East is now united on extending an invitation to the Broncos, along with Air Force, Navy and UCF, college football industry sources told

Boise State, Air Force and UCF have indicated they are receptive to joining the Big East. Navy is prepared to also commit once a higher exit fee has been established, sources said. The official invitations to UCF, Boise State, Air Force and Navy could be extended as early as next week. 

Big East representatives, including Commissioner John Marinatto, met with UCF officials Friday in Cincinnati. On Thursday, Boise State and a Big East representative spoke via telephone about the Broncos joining the Big East.

Mountain West commissioner Craig Thompson and C-USA commissioner Britton Banowsky confirmed Friday that Boise State, Air Force and UCF have had contact with the Big East.

On Sunday or Monday the Big East's presidents and chancellors are expected to vote and approve an increased exit fee of at least $10 million for football members. That’s double the current amount ($5 million), but less than what Marinatto proposed in an Oct. 2 meeting. In that meeting there were discussions to increase the exit fee to “150 percent of the gross revenues received by a departing team in its final year in the league,” according to league documents obtained by 

That figure would have been between $12 million and $15 million.

The addition of Boise State would be significant in helping the Big East retain its status as an automatic qualifying BCS league when the new BCS cycle begins in 2014.

The Broncos, ranked No. 5 in this week's AP poll, are among college football's winningest programs, with a 71-5 record since 2006.

"I believe Boise and Air Force are gone [to the Big East]," a source familiar with the Mountain West told's Dennis Dodd.

With the expected addition of Boise State, Air Force, Navy and UCF and the defections of TCU, Pittsburgh and Syracuse, that would leave the football membership at 10 schools, two shy of the 12 members the league said on Monday it was seeking.

Houston, SMU and Temple are being considered for the final two spots. However, one source said Houston and SMU are expected to get the final two spots because of Villanova’s concerns about adding Temple into the league.

Boise State, Air Force and Navy would join as football-only members. UCF, Houston and SMU would join as full members. Thompson, of the Mountain West, said that Boise State and Air Force would not be allowed to keep its non-football schools in the Mountain West if they left for the Big East.

The Mountain West source also told that the addition of Boise State, Air Force, Navy and UCF are, in terms of market, TV and football value, would be at least even with Syracuse, Pittsburgh and TCU.

A BCS source said the Big East has been given no sign from BCS officials that adding those teams would help it keep its automatic bid.

Since: Aug 26, 2011
Posted on: October 14, 2011 7:32 pm

Boise should decline Big East invite next week

Of course the Big East is proposing to invite Boise... because there is no other team in that conference that draws Nat'l attention.  However, it would be a total travisty if Boise St accepts the offer because the Big East is worse than the WAC or MWC. 

The ideal conference for Boise St. to join is the Big 12 because of regional proximity and competition level.  Why havent officials from the Big 12 made offers to Boise?  oh wait! can you say "Fiesta Bowl" Oklahoma?  Neither Oklahoma schools nor Texas would allow Boise to join simply out of fear of the Broncos taking away their luster and bowl appearances.

If TCU, Texas A&M and Boise joined the Big 12, the competition level could rival that of the SEC.  Again, Texas A&M will NEVER win the SEC or finish higher than 3rd place or even play in the conference title game.

There are other good teams on the east coast and SE to fill the voids in the Big East while remaining competitive in football & basketball.
I'd rather have the Big East dissolved as a football conference rather than have it watered down with sub-par programs.

The Big East Commissioner isnt looking at travel distance or competition levels, he is already banking on Boise St. winning automatic BCS bid and the payout that comes with it. How many teams from the Big East ever agreed to play Boise St? Absolutely none and now they want to exploit Boise' success. "If you cant beat them, join them" is no longer the cliche.  It's now, "If you cant beat them, just pimp them for the cash"

Quit frankly, if Boise St. cant join the Big 12 then they should pursue independence and be free to go around the country whooping ass along the way. 

Notre Dame, Texas and Boise St would make for a great Independent Conference. 

Since: Sep 19, 2006
Posted on: October 14, 2011 7:19 pm

Boise, 3 more could get Big East invite next week

Here's the difference though. Though the name of the Big 10 is misleading because there are 12 teams, it really isn't that big of a deal. All teams occupy the midwest. Same goes for the Big 12. Though the ACC, SEC, and Pac-12 all took schools that aren't EXACTLY corresponding with their geographical names, they are at least close. Boise State and Air Force joining a conference where ALL teams are located in the eastern portion of the United States would be akin to Pitt and Syracuse joining the Pac-12. They are on the complete opposite side of the country from each other. The travel that teams in the conference would have in endure to play these games is ridiculous.

Since: Mar 8, 2008
Posted on: October 14, 2011 7:18 pm

Boise, 3 more could get Big East invite next week

I think ECU will be in the mix when all BE schools are invited.  Not being disrespectable to any others, but year in and year out, ECU is as good as any current school in the BE. ECU would be a natural fit on the east coast and has excellent facilities, fan base and they fill their stadium for every game. Great atmosphere in Greenville, N. C.
ECU is as good as any current school in the BE?  Is that why WVU is 18-3 against East Carolina.  Don't get me wrong, I repsect ECU and love the fact that we play them often but let's get our facts straight.  Wouldn't mind seeing them in the Big East either, but losing Skip Holtz didn't help their cause.

Are you going to dispute the point I was trying to make that if the Big East tries to get tough with ND that there won't be reprecussions?  i.e. losing the AQ Bid?  I firmly believe if the Big East dumps ND it can kiss it's BCS bid goodbye.
Notre Dame has absolutely nothing to do with the Big East AQ BCS spot... nothing - the winner of the Big East gets into a BCS bowl game regardless of whether Notre Dame is associated with the Big East or not.  They do however play a role in getting some better bowl match ups for the Big East and/or Notre Dame (previously the Gator Bowl tie in, now the Champs Sports Bowl tie in)... without Notre Dame, the Big East would probably not even have an option on these.

Since: Nov 16, 2007
Posted on: October 14, 2011 7:08 pm

Boise, 3 more could get Big East invite next week

Boise, Idaho has a population of about $200,000.  There are East Coast flash mobs bigger than that.  

Uhh, the Boise area actually has a population of more than 600,000 people. It is the 86th largest metro area in the US. That's more than Madison, Wisconsin; Portland, Oregon; etc. If you want to say 200,000 then you are talking about Boulder, Colorado and they're already a BCS school so what's your point?

Anyways, this would still be good for Boise and these other school. Travel expenses etc. are nothing compared to the kind of money they would be getting from a BCS conference. And they don't really have anything to lose anyway. If the Big East goes down the drain they'll jst find another conference.

Since: Feb 16, 2011
Posted on: October 14, 2011 7:04 pm

Boise, 3 more could get Big East invite next week

please don't tell us Miss Teen South Carolina read a map during the talent competition . . .

Since: Nov 1, 2008
Posted on: October 14, 2011 6:45 pm
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Since: Sep 11, 2010
Posted on: October 14, 2011 6:44 pm

Boise, 3 more could get Big East invite next week

Canesguy, do your research.  We won CUSA in '08 and '09.  Beat your canes twice in the 90's, once in 99 when you guys were ranked top ten if I'm not mistaken.  Speak the truth or keep your mouth shut.

Since: Nov 19, 2006
Posted on: October 14, 2011 6:35 pm

Boise, 3 more could get Big East invite next week

This is rather suicidal for Boise State and Air Force.  If the Big 12 opts to go to 12 teams, or loses Missouri to the SEC, they certainly take Louisville.  West Virginia also will jump at a moments notice.  UConn and Rutgers are also eagar to leave for greener pastures, hoping that the ACC decides to go to 16 teams.  Add the travel that would be involved, and one can easily see why this is a losing proposition for Boise State and Air Force.  If schools would stop to consider the potential consequences of moves like this, a lot of heartache and money can be saved.  TCU just spend 5 million dollars to get out of a conference they never played a game in.

Since: Feb 25, 2010
Posted on: October 14, 2011 6:33 pm

Boise, 3 more could get Big East invite next week

It is clear that the Big East is all but done in football, no top programs want to come to the Big East and the teams that are there want to get out.
  The Big East is somewhere between a Mid-Major and an AQ conferance, Who are they kidding the six remaining football schools would all jump at the chance to join the ACC, Big Ten, Big 12 or the SEC. 
    The Notre Dame dream killed them years ago,  they always had this crazy dream that ND would join them in football and never looked to do anything else.
  Bringing in "Football only" schools is a joke, NONE of the other leagues do this , the six programs that are left should cut ties with the basketball schools and form their own league. Bring in Navy, Temple, UCF, SMU, Houston and/or whom ever else as full sports members , 15 Mill to leave. Start to build stability and a new brand, it would not be easy but what they are doing now is just a mess.

Since: Dec 14, 2007
Posted on: October 14, 2011 6:32 pm

Boise, 3 more could get Big East invite next week

Sorry Big Ben, but a couple of corrections.  Air Force is not independent, but a full member of the Mountain West Conference in all major sports, including football.  Note Air Force does play D-1 Ice Hockey in the Atlantic Hockey Conerence.  Navy is a D-1 (FBS) independent football program, yet plays all of their other sports in the Patriot League (D-1 FCS), the same as Army.  Army also plays in the Atlantic Hockey Conference, but Navy does not field a D-1 Ice Hockey team. 

Taking a team as a one sport team is a hazrdous proposition. as a school must maintain seven men's and seven women's D-1 sportsd to be eligible to participate as a D-1 program in any sport.  So, if Boise State agrees to the onerous agreement that they join the conference as a football only program, then they may have to scramble to find a D-1 conference for their other sports programs.  That is why TCU held them to an all or nothing term last year.  A lot of people from the Big East fail to grasp this concept.  I the Big East wants a good football program from another conference, then they had best plan on expanding on their current 16 team basketbll conference.

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