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BYU admits discussions with Big 12, but no invite

Posted on: October 15, 2011 5:14 pm

BYU athletic director Tom Holmoe said Saturday the Cougars have had discussions with the Big 12, but have not turned down an invitation and have not been invited to join the Big 12.

“I think with all that’s happened in the last little while and now that you see TCU has joined the Big 12 replacing Texas A&M, it’s probably a good time to talk about things we haven’t before,” said Holmoe prior to Saturday’s game at Oregon State.

Holmoe said he’s made it a point to keep all past discussions with the Big 12 private. The Cougars are playing their first year as an independent after leaving the Mountain West Conference last season.

“That’s really how we want to do our business,” Holmoe said. “These are very important discussions. We want to make sure that they’re private and that they’re personal and that we do not put our business out in front of the nation.

“I do really appreciate that the Big 12 has kept to their word and that the discussions that we have been involved with have been very private and very confidential.”

BYU has been mentioned as a possible candidate to the Big 12. The league is still waiting for a decision whether Missouri will remain or join the SEC.

“Well I’m very excited about BYU football in the future and BYU athletics,” Holmoe said. “As you know we’ve made some pretty bold moves the last little while to go independent. But for me, I’m competitive. 

“People that know me, that know (football coach) Bronco Mendenhall, (basketball coach) Dave Rose and the rest of our coaches that we’re going to do everything that we can to stay as competitive as we can. I want to play at the highest level that we can. We’ve been doing a good job where we’ve been and we’re going to continue to look to do our very best.”

If the BCS conferences evolve into 16-team superconferences, Holmoe “wants to be at the table.”

“We’re always monitoring and listening to what’s going on out there,” Holmoe said. “So I think some people have thought that we haven’t been involved. We’ve very much been involved at a lot of different levels of communication with various conferences.”

Holmoe said he doesn’t believe the fact BYU won’t participate in athletic events on Sundays is an issue.

“I don’t think it’s real complicated for BYU, but I think everybody knows that BYU is not going to play on Sunday,” Holmoe said. “That’s one of the issues that I think everyone in the country knows where BYU stands.”

Category: NCAAF
Tags: Big 12, BYU, Missouri, SEC

Since: Oct 6, 2011
Posted on: October 15, 2011 8:27 pm

BYU admits discussions with Big 12, but no invite

I can't see them possibly add another Texas school as they want to keep the north/south aspect even. As of next season, the south will already have OU, OSU, Texas, TTU, TCU and Baylor. and the north only has Missouri, Iowa State, Kansas and Kansas State. BYU and Louisville would be great additions for both football and basketball.

Since: Oct 6, 2011
Posted on: October 15, 2011 8:22 pm

BYU admits discussions with Big 12, but no invite

The Big 12 should add BYU and Louisville and be done.

Since: Feb 10, 2008
Posted on: October 15, 2011 8:20 pm

BYU admits discussions with Big 12, but no invite

I'm not sure why you would say something as stupid as this, I hope you just said this for the shock value cause it makes you sound pretty stupid. The people I know from Kansas have been good people but you are proof that there are rotten apples in every batch I guess. As for BYU, they areca first class university and the Big12 would be better with them.

Since: Apr 6, 2007
Posted on: October 15, 2011 8:08 pm

BYU admits discussions with Big 12, but no invite

BYU ranks higher in academics than KU. They are better in football too.  They have a much larger national presecence than KU.

Since all that is true, what do you mean by add a "real university"?

Since: Jun 5, 2011
Posted on: October 15, 2011 8:01 pm

Is Kansas in the US?

Dear "imaKansan:"

Whether or not you are an LDS member (for the record, I am not), this IS the United States of America.  Consequently, due to the magic of the First Amendment, Mormons have just as much right to practice their religion as you do.  Since this IS a sports forum and I, like many, come here to get away from pointless religious arguments, I would deeply appreciate it if you kept your bigotry out of these discussions.  
It would be funny if it wasn't so sad and ignorant; discussions about BYU football and basketball always seem to degenerate into bigots spewing their hatred toward that which they fear because they don't understand it.  
Insulting teams and their fanbases is part of what makes sports so much fun and so compelling.  But insulting one's religion, like insulting one's race, qualifies as hate speech and really has no place in a public forum.  
In other words, go whine about the LDS in a cornfield, but please don't do it here. 
Sincerely Yours,
Your Conscience 

Since: Aug 9, 2010
Posted on: October 15, 2011 7:59 pm

BYU admits discussions with Big 12, but no invite

Missouri isn't leaving.  

BYU also wanted a minimum of nationally televised games, and other considerations . . .as if they were as prominent as Texas or something . . . 

Since: Aug 13, 2011
Posted on: October 15, 2011 7:23 pm

BYU admits discussions with Big 12, but no invite

I don't think SMU or Houston is on the table any more. Too many Texas teams. There are already six teams in the South and only four in the North. If BYU were invited, why not also Boise State? Or even Colorado State? They are not a power, but they make sense geographically. Officially, the Big 12 has stated that they are looking east and West Virginia has been mentioned with some frequency along with Louisville or Cincinnati. I'd like to see us expand to 16 with San Diego State invited as well. Assuming Missouri leaves for the SEC, how about the following:
Division 1: Pod 1:  San Diego State, Boise State, BYU, Colorado State
Division 1, Pod 2: Texas Tech, Texas Christian, Baylor, T^exas
Division 2, Pod 1: Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Kansas, Kansas State
Division 2, Pod 2: Iowa State, Louisville, Cincinnati, West Virginia

I've heard worse ideas. 

Since: Jan 21, 2010
Posted on: October 15, 2011 7:18 pm

BYU admits discussions with Big 12, but no invite

I don't want those dumb-ass Mormons in our league. If we're gonna add any more members, then let's pursue a real university like Louisiana Tech or Houston.

Since: Nov 7, 2006
Posted on: October 15, 2011 6:54 pm

BYU admits discussions with Big 12, but no invite

Big 12 suggestion: Invite BYU and either SMU or Houston. Make Missouri decide sooner rather than later if they're staying. If they stay, add both SMU & Houston, if they leave obviously, just one of them. I would think Houston would be the favorite since TCU already has the DFW market, and ATM leaving leaves a fairly big void in the Houston region market that the Cougars would fill. But SMU has more money, which is what this is all about anyway.

Then, go back to 2 divisions:

Division 1: Kansas, Kansas State, Iowa State, BYU, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State
Division 2: Texas, Texas Tech, Baylor, TCU, Houston and SMU or Missouri

Let's be honest, Texas and OU are the big dogs, so put them on opposite sides; otherwise put Texas Tech & Missouri in Division 1, and pull OU & OSU back into Division 2.

Totally off the wall and less than 1% of ever happening, but it would be pretty cool if somehow LSU & Arkansas could be swooned over. Obviously a pipe dream, but is anything really out of the question??


Since: Aug 30, 2006
Posted on: October 15, 2011 6:26 pm

BYU admits discussions with Big 12, but no invite

IMO, The Big 12 needs to get back to 12 teams minimum in order to keep the championship game, that's too much money to leave on the table. That being said, inviting lesser programs waters down the competition in the league & makes that game way less entertaining than the SEC or Big 10 similar games. BYU, from a competitive standpoint would make the league stronger, coupled with newcomer, TCU, the competition is better than ever before. Don't know what UT's & OU's issues would be with BYU, but I hope they work it out. At the end of the day, they'd look silly on the outside looking in at the larger, better conferences that are being put together.

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