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Serious talks upcoming for Big 12 membership size

Posted on: October 15, 2011 6:53 pm
Edited on: October 15, 2011 6:56 pm
 
AUSTIN, Texas – Oklahoma State President Burns Hargis told CBSSports.com he prefers a 12-team Big 12 Conference, but admits there is no consensus whether the league should be a 10-team or 12-team league.

“I think we’ll have serious conversations at our next (Big 12) board meeting (in two weeks) about whether the league should be 10 or 12 teams,” Hargis said at halftime of the Oklahoma State-Texas game.

Texas athletic director DeLoss Dodds has said he prefers a 10-team model, but would be open to 12 schools. Oklahoma officials, including Coach Bob Stoops, have said they prefer 12, but are most concerned with what provides stability.

“There is no consensus from conference members on going to 10 or 12 members,” Big 12 interim commissioner Chuck Neinas said last week.

Hargis said the league continues to wait on a decision from Missouri if the Tigers are staying or leaving for the SEC.

Missouri remains favored by a majority of SEC presidents and chancellors as the SEC's 14th member, four sources familiar with their discussions told The Birmingham News.

One sticking point is which division Missouri would play in, the newspaper reported. Sources told the News that Alabama would support Missouri as the 14th member if it joined the SEC East and not the SEC West.





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Since: Feb 3, 2008
Posted on: October 20, 2011 5:43 pm
 

Serious talks upcoming for Big 12 membership size

Texas only wants 10 because it's less teams to split revenue and less teams to challenge them for titles.
 


jhoshamusing
Since: Oct 17, 2011
Posted on: October 19, 2011 10:41 pm
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Since: Feb 23, 2010
Posted on: October 19, 2011 1:29 am
 

Serious talks upcoming for Big 12 membership size

The Big 12 needs to add Boise St., Cincinnati, Notre Dame along with BYU, and there you have it 15 teams if Missouri stays in the Big 12. Schools that are great football wise and basketball wise all close to the same time zones. Adding TCU was great along with the four other schools would make it a great conference to be in. OU vs. Boise St. every year for football at Jerry Jones palace or I should add the Big 12 championship game presented by the Dallas Cowboys and Jerry Jones.




Since: Sep 17, 2011
Posted on: October 18, 2011 8:34 pm
 

Serious talks upcoming for Big 12 membership size

A big consideration regards Eastern and Central time zones.  BYU has a national following too big to ignore, otherwise I don't think the Big 12 wants to have Mountain or Pacific coast teams so games can be more easily seen on the East coast.



Since: Dec 10, 2009
Posted on: October 18, 2011 5:13 pm
 

Serious talks upcoming for Big 12 membership size

Why doesn't the Big 12 go after Boise St? I know in a perfect world the only BCS conference they TRULY fit into is the PAC 12 but I think travel wise the Big 12 would be a much better fit than all the Big East. 

It seems as though the B12 is interested in moving west with the recent talks with BYU. Why not take it one state further and hit up Boise St.? Just curious to know if anyone else has considered this. 


jhoshamusing
Since: Oct 17, 2011
Posted on: October 18, 2011 9:26 am
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Since: Nov 13, 2006
Posted on: October 17, 2011 10:19 pm
 

Serious talks upcoming for Big 12 membership size

I agree with your position Pistols Firing. The Big 12 has been laxed here they need to force Missouri to make up its mind as far as conference affiliation.
How long does Missouri need either they want to be part of the Big 12 or they don't. It appears to be a done deal on the SEC side a majority of SEC
presidents have supported the idea of Missouri joining the conference its just figuring out the logistics of where Missouri would wind up either east or west
division in order to preserve current rivalries. Now the ball is in Missouri's court either they want to stay or go and if they want to go then let them go
because if they want to go I bet the SEC would gladly take them and then the Big 12 can go about its business in whether or not they want to expand or not. But at the time being the Big 12 needs an answer from Missouri. What I would is give Missouri about two weeks to make up its mind and at that time the Big 12 should demand a answer and if Missouri refuses to answer or request more time I would dismiss them from the conference because The Big 12's time is way to valuable to be wasting with someone who does not know if they want to be a part of the conference or not.  There are schools that are dying to be a part of the Big 12.  For example San Diego State they want in and they are just waiting for an invite to the Big 12.  Moreover, I bet Louisville, Cincinati and WVU would gladly accept an invite to the Big 12.  With this said I say to Missourip listen either you want in or out and if you can't make up your mind we make it up for you because there are schools out their that want to be a part of this conference.




Since: Oct 12, 2011
Posted on: October 17, 2011 5:21 pm
 

Serious talks upcoming for Big 12 membership size

Really not a bad idea pyshie, allow me to expand upon that.  Instead of 4 16 team super conferences as many have talked about, we have 8 9 team conferences based as much as possible on regionality and rivalry, but also taking into account traditional recruiting grounds.  This allows for everyone to have an 8 game conference schedule with 4 home and 4 away, and 4 non-conference games.  The current conferences would have to broken up somewhat, but most rivalries could be preserved with non-conference games.  There would be 24 total playoff spots.  The 8 conference winners each year make the playoffs and have a bye in the first round of the playoffs and are seeded according to the polls.  These 8 would also play their first playoff game at home, this would increase revenues for those teams signigicantly.  The remaining 16 spots will be determined by the polls or some system similar to the current bcs, but also to prevent, as much as possible, any 2 teams from re-matching in the playoffs.  The top 8 of that 2nd tier would also play at home.  The next round of playoff games and also the semi-finals would be at neutral site venues, and the championship game would be held at designated neutral site that would rotate just like the current bcs championship game.  It would be really hard to do becasue not all rivalries could be accomodated, many would probably have to become semi-annual, but that is happening now anyway.  Occasionally, however, those "missed" rivalry games would take place within the playoffs making them even better.  It also means some schools would potentially play 16 games in a season, but the pros do that so maybe that's not such a big deal either.  Finally, what would you do with Notre Dame?  If they stayed independant it means they would never get a 1st rnd playoff bye (which is fine by me btw)  There could also still be some bowl games after the season to accomodate schools that had good seasons but did not make the playoffs.




Since: Nov 5, 2006
Posted on: October 17, 2011 3:44 pm
 

Serious talks upcoming for Big 12 membership size

Based on what you have said, the only change I would make to your projected divisions is that I would switch Baylor and South Florida/Central Florida.



Since: Dec 8, 2006
Posted on: October 17, 2011 3:39 pm
 

Serious talks upcoming for Big 12 membership size

I am going to start a new NCAA.,,,No Conference Affiliation Association.    

Eliminate conferences.

All for one and one for all.

Schedule whom you want when you want.

That's it.

Top 32 in a playoff that begins with 16 games over the Thanksgiving weekend and culminating n a Championship game at 5pm on New Years Day.

WOW! 


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