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Big East fee increase depends on Navy, Air Force

Posted on: October 17, 2011 9:25 pm
Edited on: October 17, 2011 9:46 pm
 

The Big East’s presidents and chancellors voted unanimously Monday night to increase the league’s exit fee to $10 million, but the increased fee is contingent on Navy and Air Force joining the league as football only members, sources told CBSSports.com.

The increase in exit fees from $5 million to $10 million is expected to increase the probability of adding Navy and Air Force as football-only members. Both schools are receptive to joining the Big East, but wanted a bigger financial commitment from the remaining members (Cincinnati, UConn, Louisville, Rutgers, South Florida and West Virginia).

Sources with knowledge of Monday's teleconference also said that there is no timetable to issue invitations. The Big East previously had indicated a desire to get to 12 football members after losing TCU to the Big 12 and Pittsburgh and Syracuse to the ACC.

Less than an hour before the Big East’s presidents and chancellors held their teleconference Monday night with Commissioner John Marinatto, the New York Times reported Missouri’s departure from the Big 12 to the SEC was “inevitable and imminent.”

That development would have a significant impact on the league, specifically Big East members Louisville and West Virginia, who sources have told CBSSports.com are prime candidates to receive a Big 12 invitation if Missouri left. However, all of the Big East’s 14 members still voted unanimously for the increased exit fee Monday night.

Besides Navy and Air Force, the Big East also has had conversations with Boise State about becoming a football-only member and with UCF about joining as an all sports member.

As of Saturday, the Big East “felt confident about their discussions with Boise State,” a college football industry source told CBSSports.com.

“That’s the most important factor, the stability of the core membership,” Navy athletic director Chet Gladchuk told CBSSports.com Monday night.

Gladchuk said that the possibility of adding Boise State was significant in Navy’s decision making process. “Absolutely,” Gladchuk said. “Anything that helps stabilize the Big East’s automatic BCS berth.”

Boise State president Bob Kustra told the Idaho Statesman Saturday the Broncos have notified the Mountain West Conference that it is definitely staying or leaving the league.

“If by some strange chance somebody came to us and said we’d like to invite you to join our conference, I’d have to say, ‘Well, you’ll have to give us time to do our due diligence and really spend the time on it.’ We’re not ready,” Kustra told the Statesman. “I have no idea how fast or slow this whole process is going to move.”

Last week Boise State coach Chris Petersen said he was not concerned about the extra travel that would be required by competing in the Big East.

“For us, it’s not that big of a deal (with) how we travel,” Petersen told the Statesman. “You get on a plane, you charter. You’re in and out. You’re on a plane four hours instead of two. Whatever. All that’s doable.

“Do all the other things make sense? And I think that, don’t kid yourself, these guys (Kustra and interim athletic director Curt Apsey) are all over it. They’re analyzing everything.”

UCF is ready to join the Big East, multiple sources told CBSSports.com, and is just awaiting an official invitation to the league.

UCF officials met with Marinatto and other Big East representatives Friday in Cincinnati. “We were very impressed with them,” a league source said. “It went well. I can’t imagine it dragging out too long with them.”

The league also is targeting Houston and SMU as potential all-sports members to get to 12 football members. If the Big East lost any schools to the Big 12 or other conferences, the next likely candidates the Big East would pursue would be Temple and East Carolina.
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Since: Oct 5, 2006
Posted on: October 18, 2011 5:10 am
 

Big East fee increase depends on Navy, Air Force

I know...  read it here quoting the Denver Post...  but exactly why doesn't Air Force want to join the Big 12?  Yeah, they said (and this seems really odd, to admit) they felt they'd get their butt kicked regularly...  why is that appealing to the Big East?



Since: Dec 18, 2006
Posted on: October 18, 2011 3:48 am
 

Big East fee increase depends on Navy, Air Force

"Boise State president Bob Kustra told the Idaho Statesman Saturday the Broncos have notified the Mountain West Conference that it is definitely staying or leaving the league."


Well that certainly narrows it down.  What was the other option again?




Since: Sep 18, 2011
Posted on: October 18, 2011 3:40 am
 

East Carolina and Temple

Hulaboytroy - Don't go dissin' Temple.  The general reference for evaluating national universities is the US News ranking.  Temple, East Carolina and Louisville are all 2nd tier schools - with Temple highest ranked of the three.  West Virginia is 3rd tier.  Temple's professional schools are all top tier.  It's not Temple's fault that ECU was snubbed.

Look, this is a conference that's dying to add Boise State - an academically unranked and insignificant institution that was a junior college until 30 years ago.  Obviously, academic or regional cohesion is not tops on the BE priority list.  Nobody is mistaking the Big East for the Big 10 in that regard.  Since many current and prospective BE members would all join any other established conference if they could (and probably will), East Carolina looks like a shoe in.  (Rest easy, Villanova, which, like the other small basketball schools that control the conference that you so desperately want to join, is not even a national university, is blocking Temple's entry anyway.)

The current BE members all want out so badly that I'm sure that $10k exit fee that they all just voted on won't take effect until all have had a chance to bail.  Navy and AFA could be real suckers if they take that vote seriously.


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Since: Aug 31, 2006
Posted on: October 18, 2011 2:29 am
 

Big East fee increase depends on Navy, Air Force

Could someone please explain to me why ECU is snubbed again?  I do not get it. -- Hulaboytroy

You are absolutely correct in saying ECU is being overlooked.

Not only that, but adding ECU would give the conference exposure in the Carolinas which is a decent recruiting area.

After all, ECU is a program that is still able to take fringe recruits from the area and finds a few NFL type players from time to time that aren't just Chris Johnson, etc.

I believe the Big East needs UCF (the fastest growing state college) to broaden the exposure in Florida where the talent base is very rich and also to create a rivalry between USF (the two schools are less than an hour apart in terms of driving distance).

So in summary, ECU & UCF would give the Big East exposure to talent rich areas of the Florida and the Carolinas.

UCF certainly could one day reach top 10 status given their school size and area in the state and I think ECU could recruit enough fringe guys from the South to put in the type of seasons they have in the past (good enough for top 25).

I also agree that Navy & Air Force would be bad additions.

No offense to the armed forces, but they just can't recruit like some of the other schools which don't have mandatory service times attached.



Since: Jun 5, 2011
Posted on: October 18, 2011 1:54 am
 

Crappy idea for Navy and AF

Because most football players with NFL dreams don't want to commit to military service, there is no way either service academy can put out the caliber of athletes needed to compete on a regular basis in a major conference.  Any service academy would be a tomato can in any major conference.  It is bad for morale when the service academies get their butts beat every week.



Since: Jan 4, 2009
Posted on: October 18, 2011 1:38 am
 

Big East fee increase depends on Navy, Air Force

This is all very sad.  Even with AF, Boise State, and Navy, do you really think a challenger for the national title will come out of the Big Least?  I'm very respectful of the AF and Navy programs, but they just don't get the very top talent.  Their players really should have other priorities other than football.   Boise is going through one of those phases that certain schools do; I can see where they'll have a drop-off in a few years.  Then what?  Let me give an example...Colorado State was very good during the late 90s, early 00's, and nothing now.  

Does anyone ever see a national champion coming out of the Big Least??  Really?  I mean REALLY?  

Funny, when it comes to the players, umm....I mean students, we want to make certain that they don't get any money.  But all of this shuffling for conferences really comes down to...."where's the money".  

I don't want to say the Big Least is out procuring (aren't there laws against that?), but that's what its about....its can we get currently attractive schools with money....provided by ESPN and the BCS.  So does that mean that ESPN and the BCS is the john?




Since: Dec 13, 2007
Posted on: October 18, 2011 1:32 am
 

Big East fee increase depends on Navy, Air Force

Could someone please explain to me why ECU is snubbed again?  I do not get it.  VT and ECU where neck and neck during BE expansion years ago and since getting the nod VT has exploded.  If you think a Fan base and University support would not do the same for ECU you're mistaken.  Yes TV rules the game but what do the service academies bring the Conference?  Seriuosly.  

This whole thing makes no sense.  Yes I'm a fan but I see this on the terms of upside.  ECU is solid in all sports and brings a competitive University to the BE.  If you want to question academics go right ahead.  I'm a Seton Hall grad and that University, a voting interest in BE decisions, is a joke.  And to put Temple ahead of ECU is even more ridiculous.  





Since: Sep 22, 2011
Posted on: October 18, 2011 1:07 am
 

Big East fee increase depends on Navy, Air Force

The good news is that the BEast is actually starting to think about football as an actual competition. Another reason to be optimistic is the remaining schools are seeming to be committed, but this is politics republicans (basketball) democratic (football). remember. Who are marking drug deals behind closed doors.


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