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Big East fee increase depends on Navy, Air Force

Posted on: October 17, 2011 9:25 pm
Edited on: October 17, 2011 9:46 pm

The Big East’s presidents and chancellors voted unanimously Monday night to increase the league’s exit fee to $10 million, but the increased fee is contingent on Navy and Air Force joining the league as football only members, sources told

The increase in exit fees from $5 million to $10 million is expected to increase the probability of adding Navy and Air Force as football-only members. Both schools are receptive to joining the Big East, but wanted a bigger financial commitment from the remaining members (Cincinnati, UConn, Louisville, Rutgers, South Florida and West Virginia).

Sources with knowledge of Monday's teleconference also said that there is no timetable to issue invitations. The Big East previously had indicated a desire to get to 12 football members after losing TCU to the Big 12 and Pittsburgh and Syracuse to the ACC.

Less than an hour before the Big East’s presidents and chancellors held their teleconference Monday night with Commissioner John Marinatto, the New York Times reported Missouri’s departure from the Big 12 to the SEC was “inevitable and imminent.”

That development would have a significant impact on the league, specifically Big East members Louisville and West Virginia, who sources have told are prime candidates to receive a Big 12 invitation if Missouri left. However, all of the Big East’s 14 members still voted unanimously for the increased exit fee Monday night.

Besides Navy and Air Force, the Big East also has had conversations with Boise State about becoming a football-only member and with UCF about joining as an all sports member.

As of Saturday, the Big East “felt confident about their discussions with Boise State,” a college football industry source told

“That’s the most important factor, the stability of the core membership,” Navy athletic director Chet Gladchuk told Monday night.

Gladchuk said that the possibility of adding Boise State was significant in Navy’s decision making process. “Absolutely,” Gladchuk said. “Anything that helps stabilize the Big East’s automatic BCS berth.”

Boise State president Bob Kustra told the Idaho Statesman Saturday the Broncos have notified the Mountain West Conference that it is definitely staying or leaving the league.

“If by some strange chance somebody came to us and said we’d like to invite you to join our conference, I’d have to say, ‘Well, you’ll have to give us time to do our due diligence and really spend the time on it.’ We’re not ready,” Kustra told the Statesman. “I have no idea how fast or slow this whole process is going to move.”

Last week Boise State coach Chris Petersen said he was not concerned about the extra travel that would be required by competing in the Big East.

“For us, it’s not that big of a deal (with) how we travel,” Petersen told the Statesman. “You get on a plane, you charter. You’re in and out. You’re on a plane four hours instead of two. Whatever. All that’s doable.

“Do all the other things make sense? And I think that, don’t kid yourself, these guys (Kustra and interim athletic director Curt Apsey) are all over it. They’re analyzing everything.”

UCF is ready to join the Big East, multiple sources told, and is just awaiting an official invitation to the league.

UCF officials met with Marinatto and other Big East representatives Friday in Cincinnati. “We were very impressed with them,” a league source said. “It went well. I can’t imagine it dragging out too long with them.”

The league also is targeting Houston and SMU as potential all-sports members to get to 12 football members. If the Big East lost any schools to the Big 12 or other conferences, the next likely candidates the Big East would pursue would be Temple and East Carolina.

Since: Jun 10, 2011
Posted on: October 18, 2011 12:46 am

Big East fee increase depends on Navy, Air Force

Navy has a large National following and draws more attendance for home games than the "Twerps" in Maryland. Besides. . .there are over 300,000 Navy personnel who are fans in San Diego, Norfolk, Mayport, and over seas.  Last time I checked the Army Navy game has been sold out at 80,000+ FEDEX field for over four months.  Check your math and do your research next time.

Since: Mar 26, 2009
Posted on: October 18, 2011 12:30 am

Big East fee increase depends on Navy, Air Force

Not sure he knew how to look it up...thought lend a hand.

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Nice post enriquillo...

Since: Sep 5, 2006
Posted on: October 18, 2011 12:19 am

Big East fee increase depends on Navy, Air Force

Good thing to see the NCAA take charge and help make sense of all this...they serve a purpose I suppose....employing a couple thousand unemployable people...


Since: Oct 17, 2011
Posted on: October 18, 2011 12:06 am

Big East fee increase depends on Navy, Air Force

1. "Boise State president Bob Kustra told the Idaho Statesman Saturday the Broncos have notified the Mountain West Conference that it is definitely staying or leaving the league." Wow, so he definitely confirmed nothing? That statement couldn't be more vague.

2. Say what you want about natural rivalries, as a DFW resident we were excited to get to see Big East basketball in our backyard with TCU and will be just as happy with SMU. They're planning a $40 million renovation of their Coliseum and will have the nicer facility at the end of the day anyway.

Since: Sep 18, 2011
Posted on: October 17, 2011 11:57 pm

Big East fee increase depends on Navy, Air Force

Hightower - I had not heard that Providence College told Syracuse to go form an all-sports conference without the Catholic schools. If you have a citation for that, I might lower my scorn for Providence, Seton Hall and St Johns (but not for Villanova!).  Regardless, in fairness, the football schools deserve plenty of blame too - for not having any cojones.

Goldrusher - Your childish ad hominem (you can look it up) aside, Pitt, Syracuse, Boston College, Rutgers and UConn share the fact that they are, in addition to Penn State and Temple, the only 1st and 2nd tier national universities located in the northeast that are competitive in all sports.  You can celebrate the addition of SMU and Boise all you want, but the three-legged stool that this conference will become (football-only members, basketball members, all-sports members, east coast, mountain states, etc.) will be extremely unstable for the brief period that it lasts.   

But go ahead and rub it in, if you like.  Eastern football is dead. 

Since: Jul 5, 2009
Posted on: October 17, 2011 11:55 pm

Big East fee increase depends on Navy, Air Force

What markets exactly are you talking about?   Dallas?  SMU is probably the 4th watched team behind Texas, A&M and OU...and probably behind TCU as well.  Houston?  It's an A&M town; those that aren't Aggies are 'Horns fans.  Orlando?  UCF can't even fill their own stadium, and plays most games at night so they won't have to go against UF or FSU start times.  What few people follow college football in Baltimore are Terps fans.  So that brings Colorado Springs and Boise into the Big East television market footprint.  Yeah, I can see ESPN breaking out those extra commas and zeroes now. 

Since: Jun 29, 2011
Posted on: October 17, 2011 11:46 pm

Dream on Alice. You'll get to Wonderland Yet,

With the likelihood of Missouri leaving for the SEC The Big 12 will need to replace them. If so, rather than have turmoil each year it might be to their advantage to go back to a 12 team conference. There is only one BYU and that's not a given for a new addition. So guess what Big East? Yep, it looks like there maybe some eastern expansion in the near future for the boys out west.

Louisville & West Virgiina have been beaten to death with speculation of this possible move. Increase in buyout? Not yet because Navy and Air Force are not yet on board.
but the increased fee is contingent on Navy and Air Force joining the league as football only members, sources told
So how does the Big East survive now? Boise St., Navy, and Air Force are probably not going to join. That leaves SMU, Houston, UCF - not exactly what Marinatto envisioned for the "New" Big East.

Personally, I would like Cincinnati considered along with Louisville and WVU. Unfortunately, there hasn't been much if any talk about them being considered for the Big 12. No one knows what UConn is going to do and Rutgers probably won't be left hanging. That leaves South Florida and Cincinnati in limbo.

I can't see this "new dream" of a Big East getting off the ground much less lasting more than a year or so. I hope I'm wrong but, like you, I read the daily news stories. So who knows - although the White Rabbit of a Big East is late yet again in their latest course correction, I keep hearing "Off With Their Head!" in the distance.

I could be wrong.

Since: Nov 4, 2007
Posted on: October 17, 2011 11:43 pm

Big East fee increase depends on Navy, Air Force

I love professional football, no matter where all the teams play. 

Since: Mar 19, 2008
Posted on: October 17, 2011 11:18 pm

Big East fee increase depends on Navy, Air Force

What ever happened to colleges being all about education?  College sports are beginning to resemble pro sports, which means that the almighty dollar is more important than the sport itself.  Sooner or later (and sooner is my guess) the goose that's laying the golden egg (the paying fans) is going to mysteriously disappear and everyone from college presidents and chancellors to professional league commissioners to owners to players are too ignorant with greed to understand what happened.  

Since: Aug 7, 2008
Posted on: October 17, 2011 11:16 pm

Big East fee increase depends on Navy, Air Force

I thought that the Air Force and Navy football programs are sustained by the US Federal government so why would they need a bigger monetary commitment from their new conference members? No, seriously...why would they? Army and Navy haven't been in the top 10 in decades but their football programs are still going strong. 

I think that the Big East should changed their name to something like the Grande Este (Big East in Spanish).


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