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Big East fee increase depends on Navy, Air Force

Posted on: October 17, 2011 9:25 pm
Edited on: October 17, 2011 9:46 pm

The Big East’s presidents and chancellors voted unanimously Monday night to increase the league’s exit fee to $10 million, but the increased fee is contingent on Navy and Air Force joining the league as football only members, sources told

The increase in exit fees from $5 million to $10 million is expected to increase the probability of adding Navy and Air Force as football-only members. Both schools are receptive to joining the Big East, but wanted a bigger financial commitment from the remaining members (Cincinnati, UConn, Louisville, Rutgers, South Florida and West Virginia).

Sources with knowledge of Monday's teleconference also said that there is no timetable to issue invitations. The Big East previously had indicated a desire to get to 12 football members after losing TCU to the Big 12 and Pittsburgh and Syracuse to the ACC.

Less than an hour before the Big East’s presidents and chancellors held their teleconference Monday night with Commissioner John Marinatto, the New York Times reported Missouri’s departure from the Big 12 to the SEC was “inevitable and imminent.”

That development would have a significant impact on the league, specifically Big East members Louisville and West Virginia, who sources have told are prime candidates to receive a Big 12 invitation if Missouri left. However, all of the Big East’s 14 members still voted unanimously for the increased exit fee Monday night.

Besides Navy and Air Force, the Big East also has had conversations with Boise State about becoming a football-only member and with UCF about joining as an all sports member.

As of Saturday, the Big East “felt confident about their discussions with Boise State,” a college football industry source told

“That’s the most important factor, the stability of the core membership,” Navy athletic director Chet Gladchuk told Monday night.

Gladchuk said that the possibility of adding Boise State was significant in Navy’s decision making process. “Absolutely,” Gladchuk said. “Anything that helps stabilize the Big East’s automatic BCS berth.”

Boise State president Bob Kustra told the Idaho Statesman Saturday the Broncos have notified the Mountain West Conference that it is definitely staying or leaving the league.

“If by some strange chance somebody came to us and said we’d like to invite you to join our conference, I’d have to say, ‘Well, you’ll have to give us time to do our due diligence and really spend the time on it.’ We’re not ready,” Kustra told the Statesman. “I have no idea how fast or slow this whole process is going to move.”

Last week Boise State coach Chris Petersen said he was not concerned about the extra travel that would be required by competing in the Big East.

“For us, it’s not that big of a deal (with) how we travel,” Petersen told the Statesman. “You get on a plane, you charter. You’re in and out. You’re on a plane four hours instead of two. Whatever. All that’s doable.

“Do all the other things make sense? And I think that, don’t kid yourself, these guys (Kustra and interim athletic director Curt Apsey) are all over it. They’re analyzing everything.”

UCF is ready to join the Big East, multiple sources told, and is just awaiting an official invitation to the league.

UCF officials met with Marinatto and other Big East representatives Friday in Cincinnati. “We were very impressed with them,” a league source said. “It went well. I can’t imagine it dragging out too long with them.”

The league also is targeting Houston and SMU as potential all-sports members to get to 12 football members. If the Big East lost any schools to the Big 12 or other conferences, the next likely candidates the Big East would pursue would be Temple and East Carolina.

Since: Jul 14, 2008
Posted on: October 17, 2011 10:59 pm

Big East fee increase depends on Navy, Air Force


Since: Oct 4, 2010
Posted on: October 17, 2011 10:58 pm

Big East fee increase depends on Navy, Air Force

If sPitt,SU, and BC are your idea of "core institutions" when it comes to football, you are beyond being tought, go back to sucking your thumb now sweetie, its past your bedtime.

Since: Sep 5, 2011
Posted on: October 17, 2011 10:58 pm

Big East fee increase depends on Navy, Air Force


In 2003-2005, the last time ACC raided the BE, the non=fottball playing schools told the remaining football playing schools they should probably leave and start an all-sports conference.  But they could not take the name "Big East".

If the football playing schools had left and formed a new league, due to NCAA/BCS rules they would give up the AQ bid that had belonged to the BE.

So the football schools stayed.         

Since: Sep 5, 2011
Posted on: October 17, 2011 10:51 pm

Big East fee increase depends on Navy, Air Force

Any new addition to the BE should demand a contract clause that if any member leaves the BE during the next 5 years, then the new member can leave without paying any exit fee.  Or that the school leaving the BE, would have to pay this new member $1 M/year for 5 years.

Just to be fair to them for taking the risk of trying to help the BE stablize. 

Since: Sep 18, 2011
Posted on: October 17, 2011 10:48 pm

Big East fee increase depends on Navy, Air Force

Goldrusher is excited by the idea of Providence College - SMU basketball and can barely contain himself over the idea of SDSU playing Seton Hall.  Why not add Hawaii also?  I, for one, would love to see them play Navy.  Then you can say "the sun never sets on the Big East".

You've lost fine substantial institutions in Pitt, Syracuse and Boston College.  You've lost the very core of eastern athletics.  You're hobbling together an AQ plan that rests on Boise State, a school from a really small state that was a junior college until 30 years ago and ranked in nothing else (including academics), remaining a football power indefinitely.  And all the while, Louisville, WVA, Rutgers and UConn will clammer to get out.

What needs to happen is that the remaining real schools need to break away from the quaint finishing schools like Providence College, Seton Hall, Villanova, et al, and form an all sports conference based on institutional and regional similarities and alliances.  As that won't happen, you're just rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.

Since: Sep 5, 2011
Posted on: October 17, 2011 10:47 pm

Big East fee increase depends on Navy, Air Force

As usual, this is a small step by the BE which then publicizes this as a major change.

To most fans - $5 M or $10 M is a LOT of money.

Who would not pay the BE $5 M or $10 M so you could leave and go to a conference where they will pay you $17 M to $22 M a year?    

Since: Dec 10, 2007
Posted on: October 17, 2011 10:46 pm

Big East fee increase depends on Navy, Air Force

Can the Big East do anything proactively?  It seems that even in this hour of desperation, the Big East's answer is "we'll raise our exit fee...IF this and that happens".

Since: Sep 11, 2006
Posted on: October 17, 2011 10:42 pm

Big East fee increase depends on Navy, Air Force

Notre Dame will likely join a conference before too long, but it surely won't be the Big East.  And that "free ride" was the Big East's idea, it helps their bowl tie-ins.  Notre Dame didn't go to them, the Big East came to the Irish.

Since: Oct 17, 2007
Posted on: October 17, 2011 10:39 pm

Big East fee increase depends on Navy, Air Force

i  dont believe for a second that wvu and louivulle or any football team would raise the exit fee at this point. I'm calling bs on this source. big east is dead and the sooner the better. had they acted to go to 12 3 years ago they couldve been great. had they shown balls to the irish they couldve have moved on in one direction or the other. had they not catered to the little catholic basketball schools that are no longer relevant they could have had something unique. had they not been run by a bunch of incomptants too dumb to get into the rhode island mafia they coulda been a contender.

Since: Aug 30, 2006
Posted on: October 17, 2011 10:35 pm

Big East fee increase depends on Navy, Air Force

I somehow think that the high education standards at Air Force indicate that the geogrpahy knowledge is far beyond preschool remedial.

Air Force is even less of a logical fit for the Big Least than TCU was, and Boise St is even less logical than Air Force.  TCU at least saw sense and jumped to the Big 12 before they went broke on the travel costs.  Army was even brighter and said no in the first place.

Let's just have the WAC merge with the Big East and put Hawaii in the Eastern Division since the Big least is so bent on being nonsensical.

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