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Big East talks expansion; contacts UH, SMU

Posted on: October 18, 2011 10:25 am
Edited on: October 18, 2011 2:43 pm

Officials at Houston and SMU have both been contacted by Big East commissioner John Marinatto and have been told the league wants to discuss with them further about joining the league, sources told

The Houston Chronicle reported Monday night that Houston had been extended an invitation. However, league sources said no official invitations have been extended to any teams. The Big East also released a statement Saturday that no invitations have been extended.

On Tuesday afternoon, Marinatto held a media teleconference, but would not identify specific schools but did admit he's had preliminary discussions with several schools.

Those schools are Boise State, Navy, Air Force, UCF, Houston and SMU, sources said.

Marinatto said he's confident the Big East will remain an automatic qualifying BCS conference when the new cycle begins in 2014 and didn't provide a timetable on adding teams to replace TCU, Pittsburgh and Syracuse.

"Stay tuned," he said. "We're not rushing ourselves to meet anyone's deadline. The sooner, the better."

Marinatto reiterated that the Big East would not allow Pittsburgh or Syracuse to leave the league early and must honor the 27-month exit agreement. Pitt and Syracuse will remain in the Big East through June 30, 2014, meaning the Big East could have a 14-team football league in 2013 if necessary, Marinatto said.

A college football industry source indicated the fact the ACC has to wait until then is not a big deal to the league. "It just gives the ACC more time to get organized and get their schedules set," the source said.

On Monday night, the Big East’s presidents and chancellors voted unanimously to increase the league’s exit fee to $10 million, but the increased fee is contingent on either Navy or Air Force joining the league as football only members, sources told

Marinatto confirmed the increase in the exit fee, but would not identify the school that would trigger the increased exit fee.

The increased exit fees from $5 million to $10 million for the football schools were something Navy and Air Force wanted before committing to the Big East.

"I don't think anyone will be blindsided or feel bushwhacked when this process is complete," Marinatto said.

Navy, Air Force and Boise State are interested to joining the Big East because of the league's automatic qualifying BCS status, but wanted a bigger financial commitment from the remaining members (Cincinnati, UConn, Louisville, Rutgers, South Florida and West Virginia).

Sources said Houston and SMU – along with UCF – are prepared to accept an invitation to join the Big East as all sports members once an official invitation is extended.

UCF met with Marinatto and other Big East representatives in Cincinnati on Friday. Boise State officials spoke via telephone with the Big East on Thursday.

Marinatto is in the process of scheduling a meeting with Houston and SMU officials in the coming days in New York, sources said.

The Big East wants to get to 12 football teams with the addition of Navy, Air Force and Boise State as football-only members and Houston, SMU and UCF as all-sports members.

However, the Big East still could lose a school if Missouri leaves for the SEC. The New York Times reported Monday night that Missouri’s departure from the Big 12 to the SEC is “inevitable and imminent.” If so, the Big 12 could target either Louisville or West Virginia or even add both teams. BYU also remains an expansion candidate for the Big 12.

Marinatto said the Big East would move quickly in expanding and "is not going to pause" and wait on "the Missouri situation."

Marinatto also said he has not been contacted by any other conferences interested in any Big East schools since TCU left for the Big 12. When the league gets to 12 schools, Marinatto said it's a possibility the Big East could hold its football championship game in New York, similar to the Big East basketball tournament.


Since: Jul 9, 2010
Posted on: October 19, 2011 11:05 am

Big East talks expansion; contacts UH, SMU

Guys, once the BIG EAST gets back to at least 8 to 12 football schools, and they join the league to participate either in the 2012/13 or 2013/14, I think the BE will definitely be sued by PITT and Syracuse to leave for the ACC sooner than the 27months.  The reason for the 27 months is to keep enough schools in the league while replacements were invited.  Under no cirumstances will the 27 months hold up in court once the leauge is playing with at least 8 football schools, which is where the league was when PITT & Syracuse announced they would leave for the ACC.  Marinatto is stupid if he thinks he can make a mockery out of PITT & Syracuse.

Since: Aug 6, 2008
Posted on: October 19, 2011 10:36 am

Big East talks expansion; contacts UH, SMU

boise is east coast and smu and houston what a joke

Since: Oct 12, 2011
Posted on: October 19, 2011 10:19 am

Big East talks expansion; contacts UH, SMU

Runtgamer - The buzz for the last couple of years has been for 16 team super conferences but no one seems to have the balls to be the first in that regard.  I like your idea, but for practicality of scheduling I think it would be better to hold at 14.  You can split into East and West Divisions to reduce travel for everyone.  That gives each Division 3 home games and 3 away games within the division.  You can then have 2 home and 2 away cross divisional games on a rotating basis so you would play everyone in the other divison at least once every 2 years.  Now, here comes the problem - that accounts for 5 home games, most big time programs have at least 7 home games per year.  In order to maintain that you'd have to play 2 division 1 fcs or division 2 opponents, no more cross conference rivalries.  It's either that or only have 6 home games per year so you could preserve 2 of your cross conference rivalries.  If everyone can get past that sticking point, you have an East vs West championsip game at the end of the season for all the marbles, it could really be something.  There is one problem though, I don't see UConn or Rutgers going along with it.  I don't have anything to back that statement up with, it's just a gut feeling.

Since: Sep 19, 2008
Posted on: October 19, 2011 9:35 am

Big East talks expansion; contacts UH, SMU

Tell Marinatto we will throw in a lifetime membership to the gym for him.Surprised

Since: Sep 19, 2008
Posted on: October 19, 2011 9:30 am

Big East talks expansion; contacts UH, SMU

Pitt and SU should tell Marinatto "here is another 5 million let us go".  If he doesn't accept leave anyway, let him take it to court. The last time that happened BC, Miami, and VT were forced to play two Big East games over a ten year period and pay 1 or 2 million.  It will not matter because by then WVU and Louisville will be gone and ACC will expand again to take UCONN and Rutgers and the Big East will be Conference USA East.Cool

Since: Oct 19, 2011
Posted on: October 19, 2011 9:20 am

Big East talks expansion; contacts UH, SMU

I still think the Big 12 will stay with 10 teams.  The Big East will really like it if BYU is the one to replace Missouri but Louisville appears to be gaining ground.  I can't see the Big 12 adding someone for football only.  It's either all or nothing with them.

Since: Oct 4, 2010
Posted on: October 19, 2011 6:10 am

Big East talks expansion; contacts UH, SMU

If the end game is 16 anyway I could see this move making alot of sense from a stability standpoint, the geography doesnt change a whole lot for either conference and they merge, not a terrible idea.

Since: Dec 23, 2008
Posted on: October 19, 2011 12:17 am

Big East talks expansion; contacts UH, SMU

I know if Missouri leaves the Big 12, i would like to see the Big 12 wholesale raid the Big East. If the remaining schools all joined the Big 12 there would be no need to hold pitt and syracuse away from the ACC. If the Big 12 added W.VA, Louisville,Cincy, S Florida, Rutgers, and Uconn that would get them to 14 schools add C Fla and one other to get to 16 and call it golden.  then the old big 12 makes a division and the new 8 teams make a division, and they only play teams in their own division until their title game. That makes travel easy and it supplies teams with a 7 game conf sched, plus 4 non conferance games then a title game.  I think this would insulate the league from further plundering and create a strong football/basketball league.  You may have to add a couple of other teams to make the full 16 but it can be done....

Since: Jul 29, 2009
Posted on: October 18, 2011 11:57 pm

Big East talks expansion; contacts UH, SMU

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Since: Sep 13, 2011
Posted on: October 18, 2011 11:57 pm

Big East talks expansion; contacts UH, SMU

Lol. I like the part how they state Navy and Air Force are interested in the automatic bid. Well I understand Boise having interest because no way the new Mountain West Conference Usa will get the bid. But Navy , AIr Force be real they will never be in a BCS game. No matter what conference they join. 
!.  I am not a fan of people who talk negatively of the service academies they have truly earned the right to be talked about with respect.
2.  Navy and Air Force have both proved themselves as decent opponents on the football field and if some of the Big East scenarios thrown out on this tread come to fruition they have a shot of winning an AQ bid and if they did the whole country should be cheering for them.
3.  Also nothing ticks me off more to see where an opposing school has run up the score on a service academy team to me that is disgraceful.  Those men play with honor and we all should respect that.

End of rant.


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