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Big East talks expansion; contacts UH, SMU

Posted on: October 18, 2011 10:25 am
Edited on: October 18, 2011 2:43 pm

Officials at Houston and SMU have both been contacted by Big East commissioner John Marinatto and have been told the league wants to discuss with them further about joining the league, sources told

The Houston Chronicle reported Monday night that Houston had been extended an invitation. However, league sources said no official invitations have been extended to any teams. The Big East also released a statement Saturday that no invitations have been extended.

On Tuesday afternoon, Marinatto held a media teleconference, but would not identify specific schools but did admit he's had preliminary discussions with several schools.

Those schools are Boise State, Navy, Air Force, UCF, Houston and SMU, sources said.

Marinatto said he's confident the Big East will remain an automatic qualifying BCS conference when the new cycle begins in 2014 and didn't provide a timetable on adding teams to replace TCU, Pittsburgh and Syracuse.

"Stay tuned," he said. "We're not rushing ourselves to meet anyone's deadline. The sooner, the better."

Marinatto reiterated that the Big East would not allow Pittsburgh or Syracuse to leave the league early and must honor the 27-month exit agreement. Pitt and Syracuse will remain in the Big East through June 30, 2014, meaning the Big East could have a 14-team football league in 2013 if necessary, Marinatto said.

A college football industry source indicated the fact the ACC has to wait until then is not a big deal to the league. "It just gives the ACC more time to get organized and get their schedules set," the source said.

On Monday night, the Big East’s presidents and chancellors voted unanimously to increase the league’s exit fee to $10 million, but the increased fee is contingent on either Navy or Air Force joining the league as football only members, sources told

Marinatto confirmed the increase in the exit fee, but would not identify the school that would trigger the increased exit fee.

The increased exit fees from $5 million to $10 million for the football schools were something Navy and Air Force wanted before committing to the Big East.

"I don't think anyone will be blindsided or feel bushwhacked when this process is complete," Marinatto said.

Navy, Air Force and Boise State are interested to joining the Big East because of the league's automatic qualifying BCS status, but wanted a bigger financial commitment from the remaining members (Cincinnati, UConn, Louisville, Rutgers, South Florida and West Virginia).

Sources said Houston and SMU – along with UCF – are prepared to accept an invitation to join the Big East as all sports members once an official invitation is extended.

UCF met with Marinatto and other Big East representatives in Cincinnati on Friday. Boise State officials spoke via telephone with the Big East on Thursday.

Marinatto is in the process of scheduling a meeting with Houston and SMU officials in the coming days in New York, sources said.

The Big East wants to get to 12 football teams with the addition of Navy, Air Force and Boise State as football-only members and Houston, SMU and UCF as all-sports members.

However, the Big East still could lose a school if Missouri leaves for the SEC. The New York Times reported Monday night that Missouri’s departure from the Big 12 to the SEC is “inevitable and imminent.” If so, the Big 12 could target either Louisville or West Virginia or even add both teams. BYU also remains an expansion candidate for the Big 12.

Marinatto said the Big East would move quickly in expanding and "is not going to pause" and wait on "the Missouri situation."

Marinatto also said he has not been contacted by any other conferences interested in any Big East schools since TCU left for the Big 12. When the league gets to 12 schools, Marinatto said it's a possibility the Big East could hold its football championship game in New York, similar to the Big East basketball tournament.

Since: Jan 2, 2010
Posted on: October 18, 2011 5:38 pm
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Since: Sep 18, 2011
Posted on: October 18, 2011 5:30 pm

Big East to Fans: Drop Dead

The BE now just has a laser focus on maintaining football AQ.  They can't see weak SMU or UCF basektball from their wheelehouse right now.  They're in a football panic.

SMU-Seton Hall basketball?  Don't like that one?  How about UCF-Providence College?

This all bites for the fans that want to see rivalries.

It won't last.  The superconferences are coming and will ultimately destroy whatever 3-legged stool the BE hobbles together.  Louisville is already on the way out (big basketball $$).  UConn will go to the ACC when ND finally moves (and mark my words, they won't pay $10M to get out, either).  West Virginia will end up in some AQ conference as a last addition (#16).

Fear not ECU and Temple fans.  You will soon find yourself in a conference with the likes of Rutgers, Cincinnati, UCF and USF.  It just won't be the Big East and it won't be a big-money football conference.

Since: May 25, 2009
Posted on: October 18, 2011 5:13 pm

Big East talks expansion; contacts UH, SMU

To be exact;

UCF NCAA Tourney Season By Season Results

 Lost to in first round,
 Lost to in first round,

Lost to in first round,

 Lost to in first round,

Since: May 25, 2009
Posted on: October 18, 2011 5:09 pm

Big East talks expansion; contacts UH, SMU

You an idiot, UCF has been in the NCAA Tourney at least 3 times.

Since: Jul 9, 2010
Posted on: October 18, 2011 4:57 pm

Big East talks expansion; contacts UH, SMU

ncgreenewv......... I just don't see any ACC teams leaving for the SEC in the future, because all the money isn't that big of difference after new TV contracts, but time will tell, we'll have to see.  Sure any school has an obligation to listen to another conference proposal, but when everything is settled there has to be a much better deal.  For schools to consider changing conferences, their football/basketball and non-revenue travel cost have to be factored in, plus the amount of time out of class.  I just don't see any ACC schools leaving the league anytime soon.

Since: Feb 8, 2007
Posted on: October 18, 2011 4:56 pm

Big East talks expansion; contacts UH, SMU

Being a West Virginia guy I don't understand why we are being left out in the cold.  Beside out television market which granted is very small I don't understand why the Big 12 isn't jumping all over us, the only thing that I can think of is they are afraid of us.  These most recent announcements do not make me feel all warm and fuzzy all over.  Who cares about SMU and Houston, big deal.  Really Navy?  Air Force?  what have they ever done??  I understand the Big East wants to try and hold the conference together but your holding it together with CRAP and that is not a good adhesive and it is all going to fall apart, maybe even before it gets going

Since: Sep 20, 2011
Posted on: October 18, 2011 4:52 pm

Big East talks expansion; contacts UH, SMU

Yeah Marshall is a whopping 3-9 all time against ECU.  UCF 2-8, SMU 2-2 Houston 4-6. The Big East should be completely desperate if they are adding teams based on Market Size and not the ability to field a competent football team.  I'm so sick of hearing idiots like you who have NO CLUE what your talking about.  No other team in CUSA brings more to the Big East than ECU and it would be ULTIMATE revenge on the ACC.  If the Big East wasn't lead by imbeciles you would see ECU quickly rise to the top of the state of North Carolina in football as no other program here puts as much into it.  Conference USA never had an AQ bid and let's face it, ANY team can be a good team if you have the recruiting advantage of the BCS.  Forget the programs and see the potential of that tag, now who is desperate? 

Since: Jun 28, 2011
Posted on: October 18, 2011 4:49 pm

Big East talks expansion; contacts UH, SMU

Lol. I like the part how they state Navy and Air Force are interested in the automatic bid. Well I understand Boise having interest because no way the new Mountain West Conference Usa will get the bid. But Navy , AIr Force be real they will never be in a BCS game. No matter what conference they join. 

Since: May 14, 2008
Posted on: October 18, 2011 4:36 pm

Big East talks expansion; contacts UH, SMU

I am sick of hearing what a great addition East Carolina would be.  Not true, they are horrendous in basketball and have lost more than once to teams like Marshall.  Get over it, the only reason you would be invited to the Big East is out of complete desparation.  Big East is more desparate than ever now with losing Miami and VT in 2004, Boston College in 2005, Pittsburgh and Syracuse  soon and even a new member is gone before joining in TCU.  Even if ECU is invited, the Big East is just Conference USA again for football once WVU goes to another conference anyway!

Since: Oct 8, 2007
Posted on: October 18, 2011 4:26 pm

Big East talks expansion; contacts UH, SMU

The Big East should go after schools that offer solid basketball AND football programs. Or at least require dominance in one sport or the other.  None of those schools are two-fers. Not Houston (1 NCAA tourney appears in the last 19 yrs; marginal historic football success).  Not SMU (still dead to everyone). Not Navy (11-yr tourney drought); Not Air Force (3 NCAA tourney appearnce in 49 yrs). And UCF isn't even a one-fer, so to speak.  Boise State is the only notable school because of its football success, despite a non-existent hoops program. 

It is mind-boggling that the rest of the conference schools would allow 'Nova to brainwash them.  Leaving Temple out of the mix is detrimental to every school in the Big East except 'Nova, and arguably Nova may gain indirectly from Temple's inclusion even though recruiting may become more challenging.  TU might not be a two-fer yet, but it is undeniably the best basketball school of the schools above, and closer to becoming a two-fer than the schools above. Plus, if basketball is the bread/butter of the Big East (and we know it clearly ain't football), then not adding Temple makes even less sense.

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