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Policy indicates LSU trio could miss Alabama game

Posted on: October 20, 2011 4:19 pm
Edited on: October 20, 2011 4:57 pm
 

LSU could be without cornerbacks Tyrann Mathieu and Tharold Simon and running back Spencer Ware against Alabama if -- and the key word is "if" -- their suspensions were for a second failed drug test, according to the school’s substance abuse policy.

Mathieu, Simon and Ware will not play Saturday against Auburn "after testing positive for synthetic marijuana," The Times-Picayune reported.

LSU officials and coach Les Miles have not confirmed that the players have been suspended for a failed drug test.

Based on the school's substance abuse policy, obtained by CBSSports.com, a second positive test results in a "suspension from up to 15 percent [rounding method used] of countable contests and/or suspension up to 30 days or combination thereof upon recommendation of treatment team. The penalty will be observed in all sports from the date of signed notification."

The policy does not specify if "up to 15 percent" is a subjective decision, meaning a student-athlete can be suspended "up to 15 percent" or if the suspension is "automatically" 15 percent of games. For a 12-game season, a 15-percent suspension computes to 1.8 games, which would be rounded up to a two-game suspension.

LSU's policy also states there is no automatic suspension for a first positive test and a one-year suspension for a third.

Mathieu and Ware are starters for the No. 1-ranked Tigers, while Simon is a backup cornerback who plays mostly in nickel situations.

After playing Auburn Saturday, LSU is off next week before visiting No. 2-ranked Alabama.

According to the school’s substance abuse policy, every student-athlete is tested a minimum of twice a year. The tests can be random or announced.

However, once a student-athlete has a positive test, the "athlete is subject to unannounced testing at an increased frequency at the discretion of the Drug Prevention Coordinator," LSU’s policy states.

LSU's student-athletes are tested for: "marijuana; synthetic marijuana; cocaine; amphetamine class (includes speed, designer drug 'ecstasy,' etc.); LSD (Lysergic Acid Diethylamide); opiate class (includes heroine, morphine, codeine, etc.); ephedrine; alcohol (ethanol); anabolic steroids and miscellaneous random tests for Clenbuterol, probenecid, barbiturates and adulterants." 

Ware is LSU's leading rusher, while Mathieu is a dark horse Heisman Trophy candidate.

"I certainly understand the interest surrounding what seems to be news," Miles told reporters after Wednesday’s practice. "The problem with that news is that it's internal discipline and an internal function of a team. I'm not inclined to be forthcoming with information. I'm not reactionary to meet the [needs] of the media and things external to this building.

"So, with that being said, there’s a process that I go through. When there's information that I can share, I will. I can only tell you that I’m doing this in the best interest of our football team, our squad and to maintain a deportment and a procedure that I'm true to in a process that I'm very comfortable with. There's no real information about any specific player that I'll address at this point."

Comments

Since: Mar 20, 2007
Posted on: October 20, 2011 8:46 pm
 

Policy indicates LSU trio could miss Alabama game

<blockquote class="QuoteMessage">Synthetic marijuana was added to the NCAA's "banned substance" list, in August of this year. So it is not just an LSU policy. <br /><br />However, your suggestion that the suspension would be rounded up from 1.8 to 2 games is NOT accurate. You can't (and LSU won't) suspend the players for more than the schools policy. If this is a second violation for any of the players, one of two things will happen. They will either be suspended for the Auburn game only, or for the Auburn game and a portion of the Alabama game.<br /><br />I think it's a bit harsh suggesting that these players are "thugs" or "dean beats" because of a failed drug test for synthetic marijuana. They didn't shoot anyone. Actually, if you're going to take a chance, why not use the real stuff? (sarcasm)<br /><br /> It's also crazy to suggest that they wouldn't miss these players. Of course they would. Doesn't mean they would lose, but it does change things.<br /><br />That being said, and although I am a huge LSU fan (and not a Miles fan) I applaud LSU and coach Miles for doing what needs to be done. It's nobodies business but the team and the LSU players. If you break the rules....you pay the price. No matter who or what game is on the horizon.   Go Tigers!!!   <strong><
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Since: Mar 20, 2007
Posted on: October 20, 2011 8:43 pm
 

Policy indicates LSU trio could miss Alabama game

I am so p.... off at these three players.  Yes, I'm an LSU fan, but something has gone wrong on the discipline route in the past year.  This season will be tarnished even if they win the national title.  Drugs did it, Jefferson got favorable treatment, etc.
Jefferson got the opposite of preferential treatment, he was assaulted and had to miss 4 games.  Since when is self-defence a crime?  Even the grand jury agreed.



Since: Mar 20, 2007
Posted on: October 20, 2011 8:40 pm
 

Policy indicates LSU trio could miss Alabama game

Your knowledge is not wise if you think 1.8 is rounded "down" to one. It would be rounded "up" to 2, as the article says. Must be a New Orleans h.s. graduate
I still don't get why you name yourself the Gourds when you stand for everything they hate.  Weird.  Does Arkansas have high schools yet?



Since: Oct 20, 2011
Posted on: October 20, 2011 8:37 pm
 

Policy indicates LSU trio could miss Alabama game

McMurphy, what a waste of time hell will freeze over before these players miss the Alabama game, what drivel!



Since: Mar 20, 2007
Posted on: October 20, 2011 8:36 pm
 

Policy indicates LSU trio could miss Alabama game

Ummm, first off, Arkansas doesn't play in Little Rock, they play in Fayetteville, which is not even close to Little Rock... so your story of "violent drunken clansmen hillbillies" already sounds more than a little fishy.  Secondly, I on the other hand have actually been to Fayetteville as a life-long Alabama fan, and the fans there are passionate & loud, but FAR from violent.  Outside of friendly heckling, I have never had a problem visiting Fayetteville.

More importantly, it's widely known that the most violent fans in college football is a tight race between LSU fans and West Virginia fans.  You guys are the ones infamous for hurling glass beer bottles at opposing fans, players, and cheerleaders.  Heck, your own student newspaper went undercover as Alabama fans and were sexually harrassed and assaulted, cursed at, and had object thrown at them.

Need I remind you of the need for local police involvement when your "peaceful" fanbase tried to tip over our dance teams bus while the GIRLS were still in it?  Oh yeah, LSU... school of peace and tranquility.  LOL

Yeah, maybe crack a book and do some research.  Arkansas home games against LSU, as all real SEC fans know, are ALWAYS played at War Memorial in Little Rock.  If you don't know that, there is no point in reading any further as all your credibility is shot sparky.

My story isn't fishy, it is common and all fans that have been to games in Little Rock (where you think they don't play for asinine reason).

We have never hurled glass bottles nor acted in a violent manner towards visitorsn (I'm sure there are a couple bad apples as all schools have), rather we feed them the best food they have ever had.  That is why our tailgates are always ranked at the top and are widely known to be very family friendly.

I remember a story about a bus being rocked in great fun, I think it was Georgia, but when they looked into the story none of the girls said that happened and that it was pure fabrication.

Isn't it Alabama that always has the murders during the Iron Bowl - peace and tranquility indeed.  LOL

I hope you guys still have that paid off replay official (Patrick Peterson anyone?), because just like last time, you guys will need your officials to beat us.



Since: Nov 3, 2009
Posted on: October 20, 2011 8:01 pm
 

Policy indicates LSU trio could miss Alabama game

To the Bama fan who says Arkansas doesn't play in Little Rock or anywhere near Little Rock....

Every Hogs/Tigers game in Arkansas since 1994 has been played in Little Rock.



Since: Nov 3, 2009
Posted on: October 20, 2011 7:50 pm
 

Policy indicates LSU trio could miss Alabama game

I will gladly put an LSU logo by my name and say that it is my UNDERSTANDING of the rule that the suspension would be rounded from 1.8 to 1, not up to 2. It is not a question of math, but of policy.



Since: May 6, 2008
Posted on: October 20, 2011 7:18 pm
 

Policy indicates LSU trio could miss Alabama game

Mcmurphy - I'd agree w/ your comments if the NCAA performed due diligence on Scam Newton.  He and his father are guilty and still aren't saying a word b/c they know they are...for starters. Second, you would've lost to Wisconsin or TCU last yr anyways.  SEC is overrated. 




Since: Oct 21, 2007
Posted on: October 20, 2011 7:12 pm
 

Policy indicates LSU trio could miss Alabama game

I am so p.... off at these three players.  Yes, I'm an LSU fan, but something has gone wrong on the discipline route in the past year.  This season will be tarnished even if they win the national title.  Drugs did it, Jefferson got favorable treatment, etc.



Since: Mar 9, 2009
Posted on: October 20, 2011 7:06 pm
 

Policy indicates LSU trio could miss Alabama game

I love how Auburn is an after thought. Yes, we lost more than any other team in the country to graduation and early departures, and yes, we have a very very inexperienced team, however, we still have SEC talent. Yes, it will be next year or the year after before our next national championship, however, we will show up to play on Saturday. Talk about bulliten board materials: How about "yes, LSU has its 2 best players suspensed but that will only be an issue against Alabama". I hope we kick the HE__ out of them.

Plus, is everyone forgetting that Les Miles is just like Tommy Tubbyville, they are good for losing a game they should not because of his stupid decisions. Even LSUs national championship team had 2 losses.

WAR EAGLE


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