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Policy indicates LSU trio could miss Alabama game

Posted on: October 20, 2011 4:19 pm
Edited on: October 20, 2011 4:57 pm

LSU could be without cornerbacks Tyrann Mathieu and Tharold Simon and running back Spencer Ware against Alabama if -- and the key word is "if" -- their suspensions were for a second failed drug test, according to the school’s substance abuse policy.

Mathieu, Simon and Ware will not play Saturday against Auburn "after testing positive for synthetic marijuana," The Times-Picayune reported.

LSU officials and coach Les Miles have not confirmed that the players have been suspended for a failed drug test.

Based on the school's substance abuse policy, obtained by, a second positive test results in a "suspension from up to 15 percent [rounding method used] of countable contests and/or suspension up to 30 days or combination thereof upon recommendation of treatment team. The penalty will be observed in all sports from the date of signed notification."

The policy does not specify if "up to 15 percent" is a subjective decision, meaning a student-athlete can be suspended "up to 15 percent" or if the suspension is "automatically" 15 percent of games. For a 12-game season, a 15-percent suspension computes to 1.8 games, which would be rounded up to a two-game suspension.

LSU's policy also states there is no automatic suspension for a first positive test and a one-year suspension for a third.

Mathieu and Ware are starters for the No. 1-ranked Tigers, while Simon is a backup cornerback who plays mostly in nickel situations.

After playing Auburn Saturday, LSU is off next week before visiting No. 2-ranked Alabama.

According to the school’s substance abuse policy, every student-athlete is tested a minimum of twice a year. The tests can be random or announced.

However, once a student-athlete has a positive test, the "athlete is subject to unannounced testing at an increased frequency at the discretion of the Drug Prevention Coordinator," LSU’s policy states.

LSU's student-athletes are tested for: "marijuana; synthetic marijuana; cocaine; amphetamine class (includes speed, designer drug 'ecstasy,' etc.); LSD (Lysergic Acid Diethylamide); opiate class (includes heroine, morphine, codeine, etc.); ephedrine; alcohol (ethanol); anabolic steroids and miscellaneous random tests for Clenbuterol, probenecid, barbiturates and adulterants." 

Ware is LSU's leading rusher, while Mathieu is a dark horse Heisman Trophy candidate.

"I certainly understand the interest surrounding what seems to be news," Miles told reporters after Wednesday’s practice. "The problem with that news is that it's internal discipline and an internal function of a team. I'm not inclined to be forthcoming with information. I'm not reactionary to meet the [needs] of the media and things external to this building.

"So, with that being said, there’s a process that I go through. When there's information that I can share, I will. I can only tell you that I’m doing this in the best interest of our football team, our squad and to maintain a deportment and a procedure that I'm true to in a process that I'm very comfortable with. There's no real information about any specific player that I'll address at this point."


Since: Nov 12, 2009
Posted on: October 20, 2011 6:47 pm

Policy indicates LSU trio could miss Alabama game

Synthetic marijuana was added to the NCAA's "banned substance" list, in August of this year. So it is not just an LSU policy. 

However, your suggestion that the suspension would be rounded up from 1.8 to 2 games is NOT accurate. You can't (and LSU won't) suspend the players for more than the schools policy. If this is a second violation for any of the players, one of two things will happen. They will either be suspended for the Auburn game only, or for the Auburn game and a portion of the Alabama game.

I think it's a bit harsh suggesting that these players are "thugs" or "dean beats" because of a failed drug test for synthetic marijuana. They didn't shoot anyone. Actually, if you're going to take a chance, why not use the real stuff? (sarcasm)

 It's also crazy to suggest that they wouldn't miss these players. Of course they would. Doesn't mean they would lose, but it does change things.

That being said, and although I am a huge LSU fan (and not a Miles fan) I applaud LSU and coach Miles for doing what needs to be done. It's nobodies business but the team and the LSU players. If you break the pay the price. No matter who or what game is on the horizon.  

Go Tigers!!!       

Since: Aug 11, 2007
Posted on: October 20, 2011 6:45 pm

Policy indicates LSU trio could miss Alabama game

Did you really need to put a LSU logo/icon next to your name when you said "McMurphy 1.8 would be rounded to 1 not 2"? Has remedial math has been discontinued? 


Since: Oct 14, 2011
Posted on: October 20, 2011 6:42 pm

Policy indicates LSU trio could miss Alabama game

There are actually more Wal-Marts in Louisiana than there are in Arkansas. So what is your point?  Is it to point out that Arkansas is only minutes away from the Corporate Offices in Bentonville where are your money comes?  Is that why you are so pissed off with the butt whuppins on LSU  by Razorbacks.  If so, I suggest you shop at Target and not watch ANY more Arkansas / LSU games, the State of Louisiana will be proud.  Even the year LSU won the National Championship, Arkansas beat them.  You sir are an idiot and a disgrace to real LSU fans.  I apologize to them for having to read this garbage.  I happen to like LSU when they are not playing Razorbacks.

Since: Jan 7, 2008
Posted on: October 20, 2011 6:29 pm

Policy indicates LSU trio could miss Alabama game

How does this policy indicate they may miss the Alabama game? There is no mention of another failed test. Seems the reporter used a superfluous headline to draw attention to his article which merely states the schools policy and nothing indicating that these young men would be affected by this.

Since: Aug 30, 2007
Posted on: October 20, 2011 6:26 pm

Policy indicates LSU trio could miss Alabama game

Your knowledge is not wise if you think 1.8 is rounded "down" to one. It would be rounded "up" to 2, as the article says. Must be a New Orleans h.s. graduate.

Since: Dec 1, 2007
Posted on: October 20, 2011 6:24 pm

Policy indicates LSU trio could miss Alabama game

Please don't smoke dope until you get to the NFL.  You see how it cost Aaron Hernandez millions and millions of dollars after he smoked whacky tobacky at Florida.

Since: Jun 30, 2009
Posted on: October 20, 2011 6:08 pm

Policy indicates LSU trio could miss Alabama game

Back for Bama, what a huge surprise.

Since: Feb 6, 2008
Posted on: October 20, 2011 6:00 pm

Policy indicates LSU trio could miss Alabama game

Yeah Honey Badger, you are DB Nation. Dead Beat Nation that is.

Since: Oct 20, 2011
Posted on: October 20, 2011 5:55 pm

Policy indicates LSU trio could miss Alabama game

To the best of my knowledge...a 1.8 game suspension would be rounded down to 1, not up to 2.

Since: Aug 7, 2011
Posted on: October 20, 2011 5:51 pm

Policy indicates LSU trio could miss Alabama game

So God made this plant and its illegal, but when man makes this plant in a lab it gets pulled off the shelf to be checked out, and we will decide if its illegal later. Sounds backwards to me, but anyway, these guys will definitely be back for the Bama game. No doubt in my mind.

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