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Policy indicates LSU trio could miss Alabama game

Posted on: October 20, 2011 4:19 pm
Edited on: October 20, 2011 4:57 pm

LSU could be without cornerbacks Tyrann Mathieu and Tharold Simon and running back Spencer Ware against Alabama if -- and the key word is "if" -- their suspensions were for a second failed drug test, according to the school’s substance abuse policy.

Mathieu, Simon and Ware will not play Saturday against Auburn "after testing positive for synthetic marijuana," The Times-Picayune reported.

LSU officials and coach Les Miles have not confirmed that the players have been suspended for a failed drug test.

Based on the school's substance abuse policy, obtained by, a second positive test results in a "suspension from up to 15 percent [rounding method used] of countable contests and/or suspension up to 30 days or combination thereof upon recommendation of treatment team. The penalty will be observed in all sports from the date of signed notification."

The policy does not specify if "up to 15 percent" is a subjective decision, meaning a student-athlete can be suspended "up to 15 percent" or if the suspension is "automatically" 15 percent of games. For a 12-game season, a 15-percent suspension computes to 1.8 games, which would be rounded up to a two-game suspension.

LSU's policy also states there is no automatic suspension for a first positive test and a one-year suspension for a third.

Mathieu and Ware are starters for the No. 1-ranked Tigers, while Simon is a backup cornerback who plays mostly in nickel situations.

After playing Auburn Saturday, LSU is off next week before visiting No. 2-ranked Alabama.

According to the school’s substance abuse policy, every student-athlete is tested a minimum of twice a year. The tests can be random or announced.

However, once a student-athlete has a positive test, the "athlete is subject to unannounced testing at an increased frequency at the discretion of the Drug Prevention Coordinator," LSU’s policy states.

LSU's student-athletes are tested for: "marijuana; synthetic marijuana; cocaine; amphetamine class (includes speed, designer drug 'ecstasy,' etc.); LSD (Lysergic Acid Diethylamide); opiate class (includes heroine, morphine, codeine, etc.); ephedrine; alcohol (ethanol); anabolic steroids and miscellaneous random tests for Clenbuterol, probenecid, barbiturates and adulterants." 

Ware is LSU's leading rusher, while Mathieu is a dark horse Heisman Trophy candidate.

"I certainly understand the interest surrounding what seems to be news," Miles told reporters after Wednesday’s practice. "The problem with that news is that it's internal discipline and an internal function of a team. I'm not inclined to be forthcoming with information. I'm not reactionary to meet the [needs] of the media and things external to this building.

"So, with that being said, there’s a process that I go through. When there's information that I can share, I will. I can only tell you that I’m doing this in the best interest of our football team, our squad and to maintain a deportment and a procedure that I'm true to in a process that I'm very comfortable with. There's no real information about any specific player that I'll address at this point."


Since: Oct 20, 2011
Posted on: October 20, 2011 5:51 pm

Policy indicates LSU trio could miss Alabama game

Since: Sep 17, 2009
Posted on: October 20, 2011 5:33 pm

Policy indicates LSU trio could miss Alabama game

I hope the players are back for the game on November 5th.  Win or lose, I don't want anybody on either side of the ball claiming the "well if so and so played the game would have been totally different" scenario.

I do applaud LSU for holding there players to a higher standard and instituting penalties when rules are broken.  If every school were to do this and hold both players and coaches to a high set of standards then the joke that is the NCAA infractions committee wouldn't even exist.

Since: Nov 3, 2009
Posted on: October 20, 2011 5:31 pm

Policy indicates LSU trio could miss Alabama game

To the best of my knowledge...a 1.8 game suspension would be rounded down to 1, not up to 2.

Since: Nov 3, 2009
Posted on: October 20, 2011 5:30 pm

Policy indicates LSU trio could miss Alabama game

@Tov Henderson

Arkansas plays at least one game a year in Little Rock.

Since: Dec 2, 2006
Posted on: October 20, 2011 5:23 pm

Policy indicates LSU trio could miss Alabama game

Is this  a "LSU Policy" infraction and not an NCAA infraction? I think this is a LSU infraction, thus seeming to me LSU players are held to a higher code of conduct. Is "synthetic pot" banned by the NCAA?  If not, is it banned by other schools on their own? If not, then you can bet 1/2 the players in the country are smoking it.

Regardless, the saying now goes "The Honey Badger TOKES what he wants".....GEAUX TIGERS.  It doesn't matter because when one player falls, the next one in line takes his place at Lousiana State University with no drop off 

Since: Oct 20, 2011
Posted on: October 20, 2011 5:19 pm

Policy indicates LSU trio could miss Alabama game

Ummm, first off, Arkansas doesn't play in Little Rock, they play in Fayetteville, which is not even close to Little Rock... so your story of "violent drunken clansmen hillbillies" already sounds more than a little fishy.  Secondly, I on the other hand have actually been to Fayetteville as a life-long Alabama fan, and the fans there are passionate & loud, but FAR from violent.  Outside of friendly heckling, I have never had a problem visiting Fayetteville.

More importantly, it's widely known that the most violent fans in college football is a tight race between LSU fans and West Virginia fans.  You guys are the ones infamous for hurling glass beer bottles at opposing fans, players, and cheerleaders.  Heck, your own student newspaper went undercover as Alabama fans and were sexually harrassed and assaulted, cursed at, and had object thrown at them.

Need I remind you of the need for local police involvement when your "peaceful" fanbase tried to tip over our dance teams bus while the GIRLS were still in it?  Oh yeah, LSU... school of peace and tranquility.  LOL 

Since: Jan 4, 2007
Posted on: October 20, 2011 5:15 pm

Policy indicates LSU trio could miss Alabama game

Do you jokers really think LSU is going to miss these 3 guys, 2nd and 3rd string is as good as the 1st

Since: Mar 20, 2007
Posted on: October 20, 2011 5:04 pm

Policy indicates LSU trio could miss Alabama game

Figures LSU players are using drugs.  No wonder Arkansas spanks them every year.

You must be new to football.  While its true Wal-Mart has beaten LSU 3 of the last 5, LSU owns the series record.  I think if the game meant as much to LSU as Arkansas we wouldn't see these upsets.  Every year the game is like 5th in importance to LSU while it is Wal-Mart's Sugaar Bowl.  But we have seen lesser teams better teams often when the superior team just missesout on a National Championship game and not really playing hard as a result.  Last year was just two crazy plays that did in the Tigers, who otherwise dominated the game.

My faamily used to go the game every year in Baton Rouge or Little Rock, but the violent fans at Arkansas attacking families and acting like drunken hillbillies (they do a Katrina chant, stay classy Wal-Mart) pissing on cars and screaming profanties at children with atrocious grammar.  Like Beirut, we avoid the klan rallies in Little Rock now.

That being said, every year is a new year and I think the good guys take out Wal-Mart.  The LSU players smoked synthetic marijuana - compare that to Matt Jones trafficking cocaine and any Wal-Mart fan should understand abouut glass houses, or more accurately glass trailers.  That must be why they can't even beat lowly Ohio State.  No other SEC team has ever had a problem with them.

Since: Jun 24, 2010
Posted on: October 20, 2011 5:01 pm

Policy indicates LSU trio could miss Alabama game

Maybe it's sarcasm, can't tell but anyone that had Ryan Mallet shouldn't cast remarks about drug use in the SEC West.

Since: Mar 6, 2007
Posted on: October 20, 2011 4:50 pm

Policy indicates LSU trio could miss Alabama game

Figures LSU players are using drugs.  No wonder Arkansas spanks them every year. 

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