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How close did Big 12 come to adding WVU?

Posted on: October 26, 2011 2:41 pm
Edited on: October 26, 2011 2:48 pm
How close was the Big 12 to announcing West Virginia as its newest member?

As of Tuesday, Big 12 officials, including interim commissioner Chuck Neinas and deputy commissioner Tim Weiser, planned to be in Morgantown, W.Va. today to announce West Virginia was headed to the Big 12.

The Big 12 had told West Virginia officials the Mountaineers were the choice to replace Missouri and the Big 12 even had a press release prepared.

But before the Big 12 could make it official, the league’s board of directors wanted to perform due diligence and decided to hold off on officially inviting West Virginia.

The reason was simple: the Big 12 had always been deciding between West Virginia, Louisville or BYU as a replacement for Missouri, when it leaves for the SEC. Now the league is split between West Virginia and Louisville, multiple sources have said.

The New York Times reported Wednesday that it’s “too close to call” between West Virginia and Louisville. The West Virginia Metro News reported the Big 12 told West Virginia officials the Big 12 board would vote on which school to add perhaps as early as Monday.

Also, the multiple reports that indicated Big East commissioner John Marinatto would meet with Conference USA commissioner Britton Banowksy and Mountain West commissioner Craig Thompson today "were not accurate," Big East spokesman John Paquette told Tuesday. Paquette also reiterated today that Marinatto did not meet today Banowsky and Thompson.

C-USA and the MWC hope to merge with the Big East in some fashion to obtain a BCS automatic qualifying bid. However, the Big East still plans on forming a 12-team football league with the addition of Boise State, Navy, Air Force, UCF, Houston and SMU to join USF, UConn, Rutgers, Cincinnati and either Louisville or West Virginia.

The Big East would have to seek another school to replace West Virginia or Louisville. Temple would be the most likely candidate, but the possible new Western members are interested in pursuing BYU to replace WVU or UL.


Since: Oct 26, 2011
Posted on: October 28, 2011 10:20 am

How close did Big 12 come to adding WVU?

I told you last night McMurphy it was going to happen today.My sources are a little better than your guys.Ha,Ha I got a little lucky too.What do I know,I'm a Dumb ole West Virginian.

Since: Oct 14, 2011
Posted on: October 28, 2011 8:48 am

How close did Big 12 come to adding WVU?

What do I take away from all this?  The Big Ten is the most powerful conference in the land and would be the 1st chose of ANY school if they had that option.  More Money, More History, More Alumni, Better Universities. All the others are just pretenders. Come on now, you have to admit it.

Since: Oct 26, 2011
Posted on: October 27, 2011 10:06 pm

How close did Big 12 come to adding WVU?

You know whats funny McMurphy's. This time they are going to do it before Monday.

Since: Sep 5, 2011
Posted on: October 27, 2011 6:23 pm

How close did Big 12 come to adding WVU?

Reply to: zerothedog

Bowl games, media outlets, and a few "chamber of commerces" are what are fueling this whole mess.

Years ago, there were what - 4 or 5 football bowl games?  Then other cities said, "Hey, if we had a bowl game, we could have tourists spending their dollars in our city."   These days, there are 35 bowl games.  Only 120 teams in FBD or Division 1.  Does anyon erelly want to see the #6 team from one conference p;ay the #4 tean from another conference?  What does this prove?  That we are all idiots who will watch anything on tv?

The BCS got its start, when the Big East and Notre Dame approached the original bowls and offerred to provide their team so there would be a better match-up for those bowl games.

From the BCS website, which lools like it was done by ESPN:

1 - purpose of the BCS is to provide teams to the existing bowl structure

2 - does not want to add to the stress on student athletes by having a playoff system that the players could not endure

3 - does not want to diminish the current regulare season by having a play-off at the end of the season

Phew!  Talk about something stinking.  

And yet, the old Division II, which never had a bunch of bowl games - has been able to implement a 16 team playoff system.

There is now talk about having a plus+1 playoff in FBS because the other major conferences are getting tired of hearing...the SEC wins each year.  After 6 straight years of the SEC having a team in the NC game, maybe it is time for a change.

But instead of having a plus 1 playoff, why not have 4 of the BCS bowls, to host a play-off game pitting  the top 8 teams selected by the BCS ratings.  Then a second round, pittingthe 4 winners.  Then a NC game pitting the final 2 teams.     
;Let the other bowls game either continue to do what they have been doing - hosting party games - or let them push for a larger playoff (maybe 16 teams) with the smaller bowls hosting the games of the first round.     
;     &nbs
p;     &nb

Since: Mar 17, 2008
Posted on: October 27, 2011 3:49 pm

How close did Big 12 come to adding WVU?

Take a look at the UofL facilities and the city of Louisville, then take a look at the P.O.S town that is Morgantown. Enough said.

Since: Sep 14, 2011
Posted on: October 27, 2011 1:57 pm

How close did Big 12 come to adding WVU?

You're just throwing salt on the wounds McMurphy, salt on the wounds.  Did we really need to know how close they were before changing their mind? No.


Since: Oct 27, 2011
Posted on: October 27, 2011 1:46 pm

How close did Big 12 come to adding WVU?

And it would work terrifically if they could convince OU/OSU to join.  The West line would make pretty good sense that way too.  I get that Alabama has a rivalry with Florida but so does Auburn.  Keep in mind that while Alabama was one of the only two teams to beat FL in Gainesville in the 90s (half of most people's argument with the Tebow years being the other half) keep in mind it was Auburn that broke that ground first.  :)  Frankly Tennessee/Auburn is a better game in my experience as well as the level of bad blood there isn't as extreme as it is between AL/TN.  And having lived in TN (near Knoxville in fact) through the 90s and half of the 0#'s, Florida was a much MUCH more significant rivalry come game time.  That whole Means and Fulmer thing did kind of re-exacerbate that one though.

Since: Oct 14, 2011
Posted on: October 27, 2011 1:39 pm

How close did Big 12 come to adding WVU?

I actually like Bama & Auburn to SEC East and moving Vandy to SEC West with A&M & Mizzou.  Alabama \ Tennessee game will not go away so those thoughts are just better taken off the table. Alabama to the East with Auburn staying in the West is new for me and interesting idea?

Since: Oct 27, 2011
Posted on: October 27, 2011 1:22 pm

How close did Big 12 come to adding WVU?

Odd.  The only two groups I can see pushing for the 'Zoo nonsensically being placed in the East are Alabama and Tennessee fans and the latter to a much lesser extent honestly.  Makes just as much sense as the Alabama to the East rather than Auburn banter you hear around here from time to time.

Since: Oct 14, 2011
Posted on: October 27, 2011 1:16 pm

How close did Big 12 come to adding WVU?

@Slippy and all,

I need High 5 ratings if you like this idea.  I need to get my own blog to counter McMurphy's & Dodds :-)

Some govering body need to approach the NCAA Presidents and request a temporary moratorium on Conference Expansion.

Clears rules need to be established that all SEC, BIG, PAC12 and ACC must migrate to 16 schools to qualify at AQ for BCS Chanpionship.  There should be two new conferences created for who is left one one on East coast and other Western US. They too will have a AQ no wallow me to ellaborate.


Seeds #1 and #2 get a bye

Seeds #3 plays #6 and seed #4 plays #5

Then # 1 plays lowest winner and #2 plays highest winner.  

In the meantime, all of the schools that did not make it to BCS games play their Bowl games like normal.

You have true National Champion with everybody having a shot with the playoffs mainly occuring dring determination of conference championship.

Schools like Boise & WVA are not forced to sell out leaving their regions.  A&M * Mizzou could still go to SEC and somebody will put a fork in Notre Dame, Texas and OU once and for all.

Let me know your thought and I need ratings points badly :-)

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