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Boise St., 3 others could join Big East by Friday

Posted on: November 1, 2011 5:32 pm
Edited on: November 1, 2011 7:57 pm
 

Nationally ranked Boise State and Houston along with SMU and UCF could be added as Big East members by Friday, college football industry sources told CBSSports.com.

On Tuesday in Philadelphia, the Big East’s presidents and chancellors authorized league commissioner John Marinatto to issue invitations to those schools – along with Navy and Air Force – sources said. 

However, Boise State, Houston, SMU and UCF prefer to be announced as league members together and must wait until Boise State’s board meeting on Thursday. There have been no “official invitations” extended to the schools, but Marinatto has been in constant contact and spoke to representatives of all six schools after Tuesday’s meeting.

Boise State would join as a football-only member, while UCF, SMU and Houston would join as all-sport members beginning in 2013. 

Following Tuesday's Big East meeting in Philadelphia, representatives from those four schools – plus Navy – held a conference call. All four schools are “100 percent” on board in joining together with the only possible hang-up being Boise State finding a conference home for its Olympic sports – most likely the WAC or West Coast Conference.

Navy has told the other schools on Tuesday's call it “is definitely in” and Air Force is expected to join once Navy commits to the Big East, a source said. 

On Oct. 23 in Washington D.C. Marinatto met with representatives from Boise State, Houston, SMU, Navy and UCF. Since then representatives from the general counsels at Boise State, UCF, Houston and SMU have been working together in concert to negotiate several details, including entrance and exit fees upon joining the Big East.

TCU’s entrance fee to join the Big East was $2.5 million and the new members’ entrance fee is expected to be the same. However, the schools actually don’t pay that amount up front – it’s usually taken out of league revenues over a five-year period.

The addition of those four schools will help offset the recent announced departures of Pittsburgh and Syracuse to the ACC and TCU and West Virginia to the Big 12.

TCU, which left the Big East before ever playing in the league, will join the Big 12 next season. Pittsburgh, Syracuse and West Virginia can not leave before July 1, 2014. However, West Virginia filed a lawsuit against the Big East on Monday so that the Mountaineers could join the Big 12 next year and would not have to honor the league’s 27-month requirement before leaving.

The league’s presidents and chancellors discussed West Virginia’s lawsuit during Tuesday’s meeting in Philadelphia.

“In light of the lawsuit filed by West Virginia yesterday, the Presidents also discussed and confirmed our continuing commitment to enforce the Conference’s 27-month notification period for schools choosing to leave,” Marinatto said in a statement. “The Conference believes these claims to be wholly without merit and will explore all its legal options to protect its interests and to ensure that West Virginia lives up to its obligations.”

Bringing Boise State on board would help the Big East’s bid to retain status as an automatic qualifying BCS conference, when the new cycle begins in 2014. Since 2006, the Broncos are 68-5 with two undefeated seasons. Boise State (7-0) is ranked No. 5 in this week’s BCS standings, while Houston (7-0) is No. 13.

The addition of Boise State, Houston, SMU, UCF, Navy and Air Force would give the Big East 11 football schools in 2014. The Western contingent of schools also is pushing to bring BYU in as the Big East’s 12th-football playing member. If the Cougars, who are currently an independent, are not interested, Temple is the leading candidate as the league’s 12th member, sources said.

However, the league’s presidents on Tuesday did not officially discuss any candidates beyond Boise State, Houston, Navy, UCF, Air Force and SMU, a source said.

If Pittsburgh, Syracuse and West Virginia must stay in the Big East until 2014, the league would have 15 football members in 2013 – Cincinnati, UConn, Louisville, Rutgers, South Florida, Boise State, Houston, SMU, UCF, Air Force, Navy, West Virginia, Pittsburgh, Syracuse and BYU/Temple.

In 2014, a 12-team Big East likely would be split into one of the following two six-team divisions based on BYU or Temple joining.

If BYU joins: West – Boise State, Air Force, BYU, Houston, SMU and Louisville; East – Cincinnati, UConn, Rutgers, South Florida, UCF and Navy.

If Temple joins: West – Boise State, Air Force, Houston, SMU, Louisville and Cincinnati; East – UConn, Rutgers, South Florida, UCF, Navy and Temple.

Comments

Since: Nov 17, 2006
Posted on: November 3, 2011 10:31 am
 

Boise St., 3 others could join Big East by Friday

Boise St should hold out for the PAC-10.  In the meantime, the school should bring some higher-profile academic units in from Moscow and Pocatello (Vandals and ISU Bobcats) and even entertain renaming the Boise campus as "University of Idaho" or "Idaho State".  As for a 14th Pac-10 team, three camps would emerge:  one would push for a CSU campus (San Diego St, Fresno State); one would push for a geographic fit (Hawaii, UNLV, Nevada-Reno, UNM Lobos) and another would push for  likelier financially more solvent but decent football partner (Montana, Wyoming, North Dakota). 




Since: Oct 24, 2006
Posted on: November 3, 2011 10:09 am
 

Boise St., 3 others could join Big East by Friday

I like that analysis Buford, it is logical and makes sense.



Since: Jun 8, 2008
Posted on: November 3, 2011 10:02 am
 

Boise St., 3 others could join Big East by Friday

Yo. Vision 20/40... Nevada almost beat Texas Tech this year. They barely lost by one point and should have won the game. I'm not even a Nevada fan, but they are turning into a legit program. You can't say Boise isn't good. They beat everyone they play bro. They want more difficult teams to play, but no one wants to play them. No one. Now with them going down to Georgia and beating them that easily, not even SEC teams will invite them to play anymore. It's not their fault. They are a legit, awesome program, regardless of the stats you bring up and to argue that point, makes you look like you need to stick with the NFL bro.
 He is off base, they are a good team but I think people are tired of hearing how they are a power house. They are not a powerhouse but they can play with any team on any given day like any good program can. So they went down and beat a Georgia team that was 3rd from last in the conference last year .... grats. They should have also lost to Florida last week and lucky for Georgia they get to dodge LSU and Alabama or they would have a losing record again this year. They arent even the 4th best team in the SEC ... playing them is like playing any mediocre team in the SEC. Only thing is Boise would probably lose to one of them If they actually played more than 1 every 13 weeks. So grats to Boise on going undefeated while beating no one ... maybe we should tout Houston as a championship team as well. Sorry I can't sip that Boise kool aid, they played a total of 3 teams last year and lost to a 1/3 of them ... I know what's up.



Since: Jun 8, 2008
Posted on: November 3, 2011 9:46 am
 

Boise St., 3 others could join Big East by Friday

Weeks have gone by and the BE has not invited the said schools into the conference. What in the world is taking so long? This is exactly why Pitt,Syracuse,and West Virginia are leaving.I don't know why any team would want to join a conference like this,and if given a chance,the other schools will leave this(burning sinking ship,without AQ status)Too! GOOD LUCK to the teams that try to save the BE conference. You need it!
Yeah, the Big East does suck. But Id give props to them for saving it when it looked as If it would fold. BTW, they can't send out invited immediately. A LOT of talks have to happen between multipe schools, conferences etc etc. The fact that it only took a few weeks is pretty good. And who are you kidding, Pitt, Syracuse and WV are leaving for more money plain and simple, which is the ONLY reason the Big East is inviting new members in the first place. If Boise, Navy, Air Force, SMU, Houston and maybe Army do accept ... that makes for a pretty cool conference albiet weak ... but It was already weak so not much of a difference.



Since: Sep 1, 2009
Posted on: November 3, 2011 8:18 am
 

Boise St., 3 others could join Big East by Friday

Weeks have gone by and the BE has not invited the said schools into the conference. What in the world is taking so long? This is exactly why Pitt,Syracuse,and West Virginia are leaving.I don't know why any team would want to join a conference like this,and if given a chance,the other schools will leave this(burning sinking ship,without AQ status)Too! GOOD LUCK to the teams that try to save the BE conference. You need it!



Since: Sep 22, 2011
Posted on: November 3, 2011 4:48 am
 

Boise St., 3 others could join Big East by Friday

While it is true that basketball could potentially suffer if they go to the WAC, or Big West, the bottom line is that the football program brings the most $ and the most notoriety at Boise State and with limited funds they have to decide where to focus the money.  Just as UNLV and New Mexico have essentially had to sacrifice their Football teams and focus on Bball.  That said if Boise can find it's way to wiggle itself into the WCC for other sports then IMHO it is a step up over the MWC in terms of Bball having BYU and the likes of Gonzaga in a conference and it certainly wouldn't hurt in other sports.  I concur that the Big West WOULD NOT be a smart move in that regard.  Honestly though outside of BBall it hardly matters for the other sports.  I don't see women's volleyball team losing any prestige by not being in the MWC. 



Since: Sep 2, 2011
Posted on: November 3, 2011 2:56 am
 

Boise St., 3 others could join Big East by Friday

Boise's decision really can be simplified. Is it worth gambling on the Big East at the expense of all its other sports programs. Face it, if they go to the Big East the rest of their sports go to the WAC, Big West or Big Sky. You've gone from playing UNLV, San Diego State and New Mexico in hoops to playing Pacific, Weber State or Denver. Tough choice. If the money is there I say they make the Big East move otherwise they'll hold on to the MWC.



Since: Sep 20, 2006
Posted on: November 3, 2011 1:24 am
 

Boise St., 3 others could join Big East by Friday

Boise in the Big East isn't that bad...If Colorado is considered Pacific enough to be in the Pac 12, Boise can be in the Big East.  Boise State should have gone to the Pac 12 before Colorado or Utah anyway.



Since: Oct 25, 2007
Posted on: November 3, 2011 1:06 am
 

Boise St., 3 others could join Big East by Friday

"Boise St and Airforce should stay in  MWC. The MWC should have invited Houston, SMU, UTEP and maybe La Tech and Arkansas St. I would inclue Tulane and or Utah State as well. IMO this would have been a better move than joining forces with CUSA. The MWC could have set up a championship game as well. It could have petitioned to take the Big East's AQ status. What do you guys think?"


For the last time, the BE's AQ is not up for grabs. If they lose it, it will be another at-large. There can be 5, 6, or 7 AQ bids under the current rules. If there was another conference that qualified, then they would get it, and it wouldn't have to be at the BE's expense. The MWC (and now C-USA) have spent the last few years bitchin and moanin about how bad the BE sucks. While this may be true, it doesn't affect them, and they (MWC) should have been worried about stabilizing a conference with Utah, TCU, Boise, and BYU that might have had a damn shot!!!

Now all these teams are really doing is the only thing they can do. Instead of some mega MWC/C-USA merger with 15-20 teams that are just dead weight, they are combining the remaining BE + best of MWC + best of C-USA. What else can they do? Now I totally agree with Saigon1975, this is a complete mess and college football wears a huge black eye IMHO. Rivalries in football and basketball have been destroyed. Nebraska no longer plays Oklahoma for Pete's sake!! But it's none of these remaining teams' fault. They're just playing the BCS game as best they can. 

"Also Boise St could wait and possibly get an invite from the Big 12 with BYU and or Houston. What do you guys think?"

I think it's pretty obvious Louisville would be next in line, followed by BYU/Cincinnati. Houston would be an outside shot b/c Texas already threw a bone to TCU and Boise can't compete in the Big 12 in all sports. I think Boise football in the BE and their other sports in the WCC and Houston to the BE makes perfect sense for all parties involved given the current circumstances.

And to the USC fan, I can't speak for the other teams, but Louisville has been getting their share of 4 and 5 stars out of Florida, and will be nobody's doormat in the very near future. I actually look forward to a Louisville-Boise rivalry.


 



Since: Dec 8, 2006
Posted on: November 3, 2011 12:43 am
 

Boise St., 3 others could join Big East by Friday

Yo. Vision 20/40... Nevada almost beat Texas Tech this year. They barely lost by one point and should have won the game. I'm not even a Nevada fan, but they are turning into a legit program. You can't say Boise isn't good. They beat everyone they play bro. They want more difficult teams to play, but no one wants to play them. No one. Now with them going down to Georgia and beating them that easily, not even SEC teams will invite them to play anymore. It's not their fault. They are a legit, awesome program, regardless of the stats you bring up and to argue that point, makes you look like you need to stick with the NFL bro.


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