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Boise St., 3 others could join Big East by Friday

Posted on: November 1, 2011 5:32 pm
Edited on: November 1, 2011 7:57 pm

Nationally ranked Boise State and Houston along with SMU and UCF could be added as Big East members by Friday, college football industry sources told

On Tuesday in Philadelphia, the Big East’s presidents and chancellors authorized league commissioner John Marinatto to issue invitations to those schools – along with Navy and Air Force – sources said. 

However, Boise State, Houston, SMU and UCF prefer to be announced as league members together and must wait until Boise State’s board meeting on Thursday. There have been no “official invitations” extended to the schools, but Marinatto has been in constant contact and spoke to representatives of all six schools after Tuesday’s meeting.

Boise State would join as a football-only member, while UCF, SMU and Houston would join as all-sport members beginning in 2013. 

Following Tuesday's Big East meeting in Philadelphia, representatives from those four schools – plus Navy – held a conference call. All four schools are “100 percent” on board in joining together with the only possible hang-up being Boise State finding a conference home for its Olympic sports – most likely the WAC or West Coast Conference.

Navy has told the other schools on Tuesday's call it “is definitely in” and Air Force is expected to join once Navy commits to the Big East, a source said. 

On Oct. 23 in Washington D.C. Marinatto met with representatives from Boise State, Houston, SMU, Navy and UCF. Since then representatives from the general counsels at Boise State, UCF, Houston and SMU have been working together in concert to negotiate several details, including entrance and exit fees upon joining the Big East.

TCU’s entrance fee to join the Big East was $2.5 million and the new members’ entrance fee is expected to be the same. However, the schools actually don’t pay that amount up front – it’s usually taken out of league revenues over a five-year period.

The addition of those four schools will help offset the recent announced departures of Pittsburgh and Syracuse to the ACC and TCU and West Virginia to the Big 12.

TCU, which left the Big East before ever playing in the league, will join the Big 12 next season. Pittsburgh, Syracuse and West Virginia can not leave before July 1, 2014. However, West Virginia filed a lawsuit against the Big East on Monday so that the Mountaineers could join the Big 12 next year and would not have to honor the league’s 27-month requirement before leaving.

The league’s presidents and chancellors discussed West Virginia’s lawsuit during Tuesday’s meeting in Philadelphia.

“In light of the lawsuit filed by West Virginia yesterday, the Presidents also discussed and confirmed our continuing commitment to enforce the Conference’s 27-month notification period for schools choosing to leave,” Marinatto said in a statement. “The Conference believes these claims to be wholly without merit and will explore all its legal options to protect its interests and to ensure that West Virginia lives up to its obligations.”

Bringing Boise State on board would help the Big East’s bid to retain status as an automatic qualifying BCS conference, when the new cycle begins in 2014. Since 2006, the Broncos are 68-5 with two undefeated seasons. Boise State (7-0) is ranked No. 5 in this week’s BCS standings, while Houston (7-0) is No. 13.

The addition of Boise State, Houston, SMU, UCF, Navy and Air Force would give the Big East 11 football schools in 2014. The Western contingent of schools also is pushing to bring BYU in as the Big East’s 12th-football playing member. If the Cougars, who are currently an independent, are not interested, Temple is the leading candidate as the league’s 12th member, sources said.

However, the league’s presidents on Tuesday did not officially discuss any candidates beyond Boise State, Houston, Navy, UCF, Air Force and SMU, a source said.

If Pittsburgh, Syracuse and West Virginia must stay in the Big East until 2014, the league would have 15 football members in 2013 – Cincinnati, UConn, Louisville, Rutgers, South Florida, Boise State, Houston, SMU, UCF, Air Force, Navy, West Virginia, Pittsburgh, Syracuse and BYU/Temple.

In 2014, a 12-team Big East likely would be split into one of the following two six-team divisions based on BYU or Temple joining.

If BYU joins: West – Boise State, Air Force, BYU, Houston, SMU and Louisville; East – Cincinnati, UConn, Rutgers, South Florida, UCF and Navy.

If Temple joins: West – Boise State, Air Force, Houston, SMU, Louisville and Cincinnati; East – UConn, Rutgers, South Florida, UCF, Navy and Temple.


Since: Mar 22, 2011
Posted on: November 3, 2011 12:17 am

Boise St., 3 others could join Big East by Friday

Is Boise even in east Idaho?

Since: Oct 21, 2006
Posted on: November 2, 2011 11:43 pm

Boise St., 3 others could join Big East by Friday

The Big 12 is run by idiots, they invite TCU, then they go after UWV,really....They have HOUSTON, SMU and BOISE St in there backyard.
These 3 should be joining the BIG12 and they should have a championship game. Where is the sanity.   West Virginia Football sucks!
Didnt realize Boise was in Texas.

Since: Sep 30, 2008
Posted on: November 2, 2011 11:18 pm

Boise St., 3 others could join Big East by Friday

This conference situation in college football is a mess...Personally, I always preferred the conferences being truly regional. How can a conference with Boise State be called the Big East? Also, anyone in kindergarten can figure out the idiocy in the Big Ten having 12 teams and the Big Twelve having 10 teams. The great game of college football is being turned into a disheviled circus of foolishness. 

Since: Oct 30, 2011
Posted on: November 2, 2011 11:08 pm

Boise St., 3 others could join Big East by Friday

Also Boise St could wait and possibly get an invite from the Big 12 with BYU and or Houston. What do you guys think?

Since: Oct 30, 2011
Posted on: November 2, 2011 11:06 pm

Boise St., 3 others could join Big East by Friday

  Boise St and Airforce should stay in  MWC. The MWC should have invited Houston, SMU, UTEP and maybe La Tech and Arkansas St. I would inclue Tulane and or Utah State as well. IMO this would have been a better move than joining forces with CUSA. The MWC could have set up a championship game as well. It could have petitioned to take the Big East's AQ status. What do you guys think?

Since: Sep 10, 2011
Posted on: November 2, 2011 10:11 pm

Boise St., 3 others could join Big East by Friday

Its not what you've done in the past its what youre doing that season. Boise State wins games and bowl games but until they play in a BCS conference and play challenging teams they shouldnt get the title shot when other teams play a challenging schedule.

Since: Sep 21, 2006
Posted on: November 2, 2011 10:04 pm

Boise St., 3 others could join Big East by Friday

UHAssie says ,"Look how Boise has Proven themselves over and over again..." Really? Looking back over the relavant BSU seasons(last 5-6 years) I see a couple of nice wins Vs Oregon, an OT win Vs OK in the Bowl game, opening season Victories Vs Va Tech and Georgia and I guess wins Vs Texas Christian. All of that over what 6 years? That means they play about 1 decent opponent per year. How is that proving it over and over again? During those same seasons they have also lost to Nevada, Hawaii, Washington and Texas Christian. Does that mean they have proven to be unworthy over and over again as well? Not exactly what I view as a team that has proven they are the best on the field?
 This season we see the exact same thing. Defeated Georgia(#18) but then look at the jokes they have beaten since:
Toledo(#45), Tulsa(#33, who also got demolished by OK and OK st.), Nevada(#49, also Blasted By Texas Tech and Oregon), Fresno St(#91), Colorado St(#109) and Airforce(#79 another opponent that makes a habbit of getting slapped around). The Only team left that may be ranked in the top 30 is Texas Christian(a top 30 ranking is a gift). C'mon, seriosly, stop being upset at people criticizing your schedule because it does suck. This team HAS NOT proven over and over again that they belong with the Auburn's, Florida's, LSU's and Bama's of the BCS world. Until they become battle tested more than once a season this team is just another decent squad who sits on the outside, avoids any real challanges and then complains that they are being left out of Champioship consideration.  
I honestly would love to see BSU get a shot but not until they resolve that schedule issue. Yuk!

Vis 20/40 

Since: Sep 21, 2011
Posted on: November 2, 2011 9:54 pm

Boise St., 3 others could join Big East by Friday

Ebonyrod,  Really!!  The Big 12!!  The big 12 is one of the highest rated leagues this year and you think they suck.   I guess you are right I think the Packers would kill them.  I bet even the Colts would be undefeted in the Big 12 this year.    Try again.

Since: Dec 16, 2006
Posted on: November 2, 2011 9:01 pm

Boise St., 3 others could join Big East by Friday

If this is true the ACC shouldn't either

Since: Aug 4, 2008
Posted on: November 2, 2011 8:25 pm

Boise St., 3 others could join Big East by Friday

Why would adding minor league teams to a so called major conference allow this conference to retain it’s AQ status?

Added these schools would not make this a major conference for the immediate future, if ever.

These schools are not recruiting the 5 and 4 star recruits and might not ever do so. In order to compete at the level this conferences would want to compete requires stepped up recruiting, a bigger coaching staff, better training facilities and a fan base that would be able to follow them when they play other away schools.

Look at the schools the Big East as well as the Big-12 are inviting to become members.

These teams of these two conferences would still be homecoming games for the other conferences and a guaranteed win for the other conferences.
The Big East is not living in reality as some schools are invited to only play football, while others are invited but will only play basketball an others are invited to play both. This is not the recipe for success.
The military academies would never be able to compete on a constant basis. The recruits that attend these schools are mostly walk ons. It would be hard press to see one of these schools get a 5 star recruit. They would play good in spurts as occasionally they would be able to field a team that could compete with the others.

The big thing that would keep a 5 star recruit from attending the military academies is the 4 year military commitment. Therefore every 4-8 years you might see a Roger Staubaugh attend one of these schools and make it big.

The Big East and the Big-12 are now in the position of being a wanna be conference.


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