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Boise St., 3 others could join Big East by Friday

Posted on: November 1, 2011 5:32 pm
Edited on: November 1, 2011 7:57 pm
 

Nationally ranked Boise State and Houston along with SMU and UCF could be added as Big East members by Friday, college football industry sources told CBSSports.com.

On Tuesday in Philadelphia, the Big East’s presidents and chancellors authorized league commissioner John Marinatto to issue invitations to those schools – along with Navy and Air Force – sources said. 

However, Boise State, Houston, SMU and UCF prefer to be announced as league members together and must wait until Boise State’s board meeting on Thursday. There have been no “official invitations” extended to the schools, but Marinatto has been in constant contact and spoke to representatives of all six schools after Tuesday’s meeting.

Boise State would join as a football-only member, while UCF, SMU and Houston would join as all-sport members beginning in 2013. 

Following Tuesday's Big East meeting in Philadelphia, representatives from those four schools – plus Navy – held a conference call. All four schools are “100 percent” on board in joining together with the only possible hang-up being Boise State finding a conference home for its Olympic sports – most likely the WAC or West Coast Conference.

Navy has told the other schools on Tuesday's call it “is definitely in” and Air Force is expected to join once Navy commits to the Big East, a source said. 

On Oct. 23 in Washington D.C. Marinatto met with representatives from Boise State, Houston, SMU, Navy and UCF. Since then representatives from the general counsels at Boise State, UCF, Houston and SMU have been working together in concert to negotiate several details, including entrance and exit fees upon joining the Big East.

TCU’s entrance fee to join the Big East was $2.5 million and the new members’ entrance fee is expected to be the same. However, the schools actually don’t pay that amount up front – it’s usually taken out of league revenues over a five-year period.

The addition of those four schools will help offset the recent announced departures of Pittsburgh and Syracuse to the ACC and TCU and West Virginia to the Big 12.

TCU, which left the Big East before ever playing in the league, will join the Big 12 next season. Pittsburgh, Syracuse and West Virginia can not leave before July 1, 2014. However, West Virginia filed a lawsuit against the Big East on Monday so that the Mountaineers could join the Big 12 next year and would not have to honor the league’s 27-month requirement before leaving.

The league’s presidents and chancellors discussed West Virginia’s lawsuit during Tuesday’s meeting in Philadelphia.

“In light of the lawsuit filed by West Virginia yesterday, the Presidents also discussed and confirmed our continuing commitment to enforce the Conference’s 27-month notification period for schools choosing to leave,” Marinatto said in a statement. “The Conference believes these claims to be wholly without merit and will explore all its legal options to protect its interests and to ensure that West Virginia lives up to its obligations.”

Bringing Boise State on board would help the Big East’s bid to retain status as an automatic qualifying BCS conference, when the new cycle begins in 2014. Since 2006, the Broncos are 68-5 with two undefeated seasons. Boise State (7-0) is ranked No. 5 in this week’s BCS standings, while Houston (7-0) is No. 13.

The addition of Boise State, Houston, SMU, UCF, Navy and Air Force would give the Big East 11 football schools in 2014. The Western contingent of schools also is pushing to bring BYU in as the Big East’s 12th-football playing member. If the Cougars, who are currently an independent, are not interested, Temple is the leading candidate as the league’s 12th member, sources said.

However, the league’s presidents on Tuesday did not officially discuss any candidates beyond Boise State, Houston, Navy, UCF, Air Force and SMU, a source said.

If Pittsburgh, Syracuse and West Virginia must stay in the Big East until 2014, the league would have 15 football members in 2013 – Cincinnati, UConn, Louisville, Rutgers, South Florida, Boise State, Houston, SMU, UCF, Air Force, Navy, West Virginia, Pittsburgh, Syracuse and BYU/Temple.

In 2014, a 12-team Big East likely would be split into one of the following two six-team divisions based on BYU or Temple joining.

If BYU joins: West – Boise State, Air Force, BYU, Houston, SMU and Louisville; East – Cincinnati, UConn, Rutgers, South Florida, UCF and Navy.

If Temple joins: West – Boise State, Air Force, Houston, SMU, Louisville and Cincinnati; East – UConn, Rutgers, South Florida, UCF, Navy and Temple.

Comments

Since: Dec 13, 2007
Posted on: November 2, 2011 5:14 pm
 

Boise St., 3 others could join Big East by Friday

ncaaftbllfan-  I will repeat.  Boise St is a good football team.  I didn't say ECU would beat them.  I did not say it was easy to go undeafeated in conference.  I did not say I wanted to play Boise in a bowl this year.  

Boise St gets a ton of credit for beating the system.  I admire that.  

I'm not going to go back and quote my post but I never said Boise was not talented enough to get into the Big East.  I just don't think it is a reason the BE should keep AQ status.  I don't think ECU's addition would change any of that either. 

In the current BCS ranks ECU is actually better then 1/2 the non-AQ schools at #66.

This is not an ECU vs Boise post.  Just a post about the Big East re-alignment, BCS and my opinion that is not rooted in hating BSU.

And to answer your question i'm guessing BSU was out of the AP Top 25 5 times since 2000.  Not sure though



Since: Dec 13, 2007
Posted on: November 2, 2011 4:56 pm
 

Boise St., 3 others could join Big East by Friday

I beleieve 4 times Boise has not finished in the AP top 25 since 2000.  Again, I'm not saying BSU is not good.  But they definitely have gamed the system and good for them.



Since: Dec 13, 2007
Posted on: November 2, 2011 4:54 pm
 

Boise St., 3 others could join Big East by Friday

I beleieve 4 times Boise has not finished in the AP top 25 since 2000.  Again, I'm not saying BSU is not good.  But they definitely have gamed the system and good for them.



Since: Dec 13, 2007
Posted on: November 2, 2011 4:54 pm
 

Boise St., 3 others could join Big East by Friday

I beleieve 4 times Boise has not finished in the AP top 25 since 2000.  Again, I'm not saying BSU is not good.  But they definitely have gamed the system and good for them.  



Since: Nov 2, 2011
Posted on: November 2, 2011 4:50 pm
 

Boise St., 3 others could join Big East by Friday

I think this is a good move for Cincinnati; and of course they're on the border regarding being in an east or west division ... which is okay.  They can certainly compete against the current Big East schools, but I'm not sure they would fare well against the elite of the Big XII (I think WVU will find some difficulty there as well).  I think it's a win/win for the Bearcats!



Since: Sep 19, 2011
Posted on: November 2, 2011 4:40 pm
 

Boise St., 3 others could join Big East by Friday

I just think its funny now!!!! The BE thinks they have figured it all out and everything is gonna be fine...that is until they get the phone call from Louisville and Cincy!!! We were just letting you know we will be leaving the Be for the Big 12!!! Then UConn and Rutgers make the call saying good luck with the future we know ours will be great in the ACC!!! This is what will happen without a doubt so get ready for it. Louisville and Cincy would leave today if asked even though these schools are coming. Boise will wish they stayed where they were and so will Houston!! This is sad that these players have to travel all over the US just because someone is to scared to say "Im sorry but your school isnt good enough to play for a NC with the big boys" so they let all this take place just so noone will have to say it. Thats whats happening people make no mistake...the line is being drawn in the sand and the HAVES are on one side and the HAVE NOTS on the other!!!



Since: Sep 21, 2011
Posted on: November 2, 2011 3:57 pm
 

Boise St., 3 others could join Big East by Friday

Boise's non football sports need a western conference.  But the Football program needs a home.  They need to land in the best possible conference possible. If they move it will be their 5th conference in the last 20 years.  Each was a small step up.   This is also another small stepup for Boise State Football (The Mountain West has a horrible TV contract for a teams like BoiseState and AirForce).  The expected BE TV money and coverage appear to be much better for Boise.  This will put Boise in a Position to Move up in the future.   It the next 10 years it is very possible Bosie moves to a New regional league. There are other Schools that Think they should be a Player and will get togeather.  Those teams may include SanDiego, BYU, SMU, Montana, Utah State, AirForce, Neavada Reno, UNLV,  Houston,  Sacramento State, UC Davis, Fresno State and others I have forgotten. Some of these schools programs are a joke and others are doing the right thing.  But while we wait the BE is as good of a place as anywhere.  The BE knows that this is only a temporary solution.  So don't get your panties in a bunch. 




Since: Oct 25, 2007
Posted on: November 2, 2011 3:46 pm
 

Boise St., 3 others could join Big East by Friday

Just a few thoughts in response to igonrant, opinionated comments with no basis in fact:

"THE BIG 12 IS A MUCH BETTER MOVE !"

"The best move would have been Boise St moving to the Pac-12. Boise St fans claim that the Pac-12 didn't want them, but it's hard to believe a deal couldn't have been struck,..."

TRUE, BUT THEY HAVEN'T BEEN AND WILL NOT EVER BE INVITED TO BIG 12 OR PAC 12. NO, IT IS NOT HARD TO BELIEVE A DEAL COULDN'T HAVE BEEN STRUCK.


"And let's be honest with each other.....the other remaining Big East schools aren't any more attractive than the other Mountain West schools."

"I'm sorry, but this will be yet another lateral move by Boise." 

FALSE. Plain and simple. Just FALSE.

From RealtimeRPI.com:

Remaining BE - Cincy (23), USF (47), Rutgers (52), Louisville (63), UCONN (96) - Avg. = 56
Remaining MWC - San Diego St. (45), Wyoming (46), UNLV (119), Colorado St. (125), New Mexico St. (152) - Avg. = 97

Also note, the 3 bottom MWC teams, none of which is within 20 spots of UCONN, by far the worst BE team. Louisville and Rutgers are loaded with freshmen and will only get better as well.

Now add to the BE: Boise St. (4), Houston (14), SMU (41), BYU (58), AFA (69), UCF (82), Navy (94) - New Avg. = 53

Will this conference retain its AQ? Probably not, but it's possible. It's way more difficult to earn one than lose one, and the BE has one for at least 2 years. Will the MWC or MWC/CUSA merger ever get an AQ? Not a chance in hell. Is this the best Boise and the BE can do, given their options, the ACC and ESPN destroying their conference, and its image being constantly shat on? Probably so. So to summarize, any arguments about the MWC being equal to the BE are null and void. Plus this new BE, even w/o an AQ will attract a much better TV deal than the MWC could ever hope for.


 




Since: Oct 25, 2007
Posted on: November 2, 2011 3:07 pm
 

Boise St., 3 others could join Big East by Friday

plez - we have nowhere to go. Plus Boise is for football only.



Since: Oct 25, 2007
Posted on: November 2, 2011 3:06 pm
 

Boise St., 3 others could join Big East by Friday

Exactly, tar heel, exactly. Don't blame the BE or Boise for trying to survive. Blame the BCS. In other words, don't hate the players, hate the game.


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