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BYU, San Diego State possibilities for Big East

Posted on: November 7, 2011 1:38 pm
Edited on: November 7, 2011 4:53 pm
 
Brigham Young is in discussions with the Big East about joining the league, while sources told CBSSports.com that San Diego State also is seeking membership in the Big East.

BYU coach Bronco Mendenhall told reporters Monday that BYU had been “approached” by the Big East.

On Oct. 25, CBSSports.com reported that the Western contingent of possible future Big East members was making a push to add BYU

“There is a push,” Mendenhall said Monday. “And there are conversations that are in place for the Big East to convince or to have BYU join that conference. I trust our athletic director (Tom Holmoe) and President (Cecil) Samuelson to deal with all that.”

With the upcoming departures of TCU and West Virginia to the Big 12 and Pittsburgh and Syracuse to the ACC, the Big East will need seven schools to get to a 12-member football league by 2014.

Last week, CBSSports.com reported that the Big East's presidents and chancellors gave Commissioner John Marinatto authorization to extend invitations to Boise State, UCF, Houston, SMU, Navy and Air Force. Boise State, UCF, Houston and SMU will join the league together as a group, sources told CBSSports.com, once Boise State finds a conference home for its Olympic sports.

Sources told CBSSports.com that all six schools are committed to joining the Big East. However, the Colorado Springs Gazette reported that Air Force remains undecided. If Air Force stays in the Mountain West, the Big East would need two schools – presumably BYU and another school.

That’s where San Diego State comes into play. The Aztecs weren’t shy about their interest in joining the Big 12 and now have turned their attention to the Big East.

Despite the obvious geography and travel concerns, the biggest reason for San Diego State’s interest in the Big East is to be a part of an automatic qualifying BCS league. The Big East is guaranteed its BCS status through the 2013 season with a new BCS cycle beginning in 2014.

“Certainly there are a lot of questions on our part, but with the landscape changing the main benefit that I could see on a short term scale would be inclusion into the BCS system,” Mendenhall said about BYU. “That’s up in two years. Again whether the Big East is able hold that spot with the new teams coming in? My guess would be yes.”

San Diego State feels the same way. Despite the great distance to the Eastern league members (Cincinnati, UConn, South Florida, Navy, Rutgers, UCF), San Diego State would prefer an all-sports membership – or at least in football and men’s basketball – sources said. They also would be receptive to a football-only membership and could be in a Western division featuring Boise State, Houston, SMU, BYU and Louisville.

San Diego State leads the Mountain West in football attendance this season (38,802) and since 2010, the Aztecs have won a combined 48 games in football and men's basketball, the nation’s highest total.  San Diego State men's basketball team also has won 20 or more games and advanced to postseason play in six consecutive seasons, including back-to-back NCAA tournament appearances.

San Diego State athletic director Jim Sterk declined comment to CBSSports.com, but recently told the San Diego Union-Tribune: “The best-scenario is that we’re in a league with an automatic qualifier, an enhanced television package and we’re generating revenues to run all our programs. That’s the No. 1 goal, whether that’s with the Mountain West, Big East, or Big 12.”

Last week, Boise State president Bob Kustra received authorization from the state of Idaho’s Board of Education to join the Big East as a football-only member. The Broncos still must find a conference home for their Olympic sports before making the move.

Kustra told the board that Boise State has made it “very clear” to the Big East “we would go in with a western partner.”

That could be Air Force, BYU or San Diego State – or two of those three schools.

Mendenhall said he did not know how quickly BYU would make a decision about the Big East. The Cougars are playing in their first season as a football independent after leaving the Mountain West Conference.


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Tags: Big East, BYU
 
Comments

Since: Dec 7, 2009
Posted on: November 8, 2011 4:31 pm
 

BYU, San Diego State possibilities for Big East

 I think we are ready to explode on the scene, but nobody wants to give a chance. We're like a red headed step child locked in the closet. It sucks.

Bob, Believe me, I get it.  I think all fans of Non AQ teams get it. Boise has been the stop child for 5 years, and all they did was get lucky.  Same goes for SMU, Houston, UCF, and AF.  BYU sort of ruined their shot with the B12 so their not really lucky, they are just taking advantage of the state that the BE is in and know they get to get much more than they normally would concerning the BYU network in the BE.  I wouldn't give up just yet though.  New t.v. contracts are going to emerge and i'm sure that the B12 is not done raiding the BE and if they continue, it is all going to be from the eastern half which puts ECU in prime position to move in.  I don't know anything about ECU or UCF to say why one would be invited over the other, other than one is Florida (recruiting grounds) and the other is not, but I have heard a lot of people say that ECU should have been invited.  Your biggest downfall is competing with UNC in recruting.  I can definitely understand the frustration, but I wouldn't give up just yet.



Since: Sep 22, 2011
Posted on: November 8, 2011 3:45 pm
 

BYU, San Diego State possibilities for Big East

@bobthedeac.  Sad but true, I think that ECU has potential but the thing that hurts a lot of C-USA teams in this respect is lack of consistency.  They have a great year one year, barely break even the next, jump up and have another great year and then drop down and produce a losing season the next.  A perennial team that can produce winning seasons would go much farther to proving the case of a given team.  I recognize the teams coming on board are also guilty of the hit and miss as well it's just a matter of who is up and who is down right now.  Unfortunately the last great season for ECU was the 2007 season. 



Since: Sep 27, 2006
Posted on: November 8, 2011 3:15 pm
 

BYU, San Diego State possibilities for Big East

You're right Idbowhunter, to get BYU and Boise, they need to form a western conference. So I understand Houston, I guess SMU, & SDSU if that's what they are doing. But for the East Coast teams, UCF? We've dominated them over the years in football. Heck we beat them 3 times last year in basketball. That has to be about TV sets and recruiting in Florida. Also we use to beat Cincinati pretty regularly to. I'm pretty sure they were taken during the 1st merger for basketball and TV sets.    ...However, after they (cinci) was given AQ Status which brings in more revenue, national exposure, hence better recruits, their football team has had some sucess. I think facility and sucess wise we are way ahead of where they were before they joined the BE. We were pretty much neck and neck with VT and WVa in the early 90's before they were elevated to an AQ Conference. I'm just saying, I think we are ready to explode on the scene, but nobody wants to give a chance. We're like a red headed step child locked in the closet. It sucks.



Since: Dec 7, 2009
Posted on: November 8, 2011 2:56 pm
 

BYU, San Diego State possibilities for Big East

ECU sells out 50K seat stadium every week. We are 1.25 hours away from Raleigh which I think is in the top 20 in TV markets. We've won 2 out the 3 last CUSA championships and been to 5 bowl games in a row. All time, we are 8 & 2 against UCF, 6 & 5 aginst Houston, and 2 & 2 against SMU (teams taken from cusa ahead of us). Come to one of our games before you say we have no tradtion. We were only 2nd to BYU in attendance from non BCS Schools.

You have a valid point when talking about renvenue, but revenue is NOT what the BigEast is after.  The BE expanding has nothing to do with tradition, t.v. markets, or academics.  Of course they do get to benefit from some of that regarding a few teams invited such as Houston, SMY, and BYU, but the move is to keep AQ status.  Rankings(individual teams AND conferences) are what what establishes AQ's, not money and tradition therefore, the teams you've mentioned and the one's the other gentleman mentioned do not help the BE get AQ status.  The only reason SDSU would get invited would be to round out the western division; I think it's obvious their ratings are not really doing anything for the conference, but Boise and certain others will not join unless a western division is established.  Unfortunately for ECU, they are not in the West.  No one is saying that ECU couldn't or wouldn't bring revenue to the conference because they certainly could, but this expansion is not about revenue, it's about keeping the AQ bid.



Since: Sep 22, 2011
Posted on: November 8, 2011 2:32 pm
 

BYU, San Diego State possibilities for Big East

Travel costs will kill these teams especially in times like this where money is not growing on trees.  Do you know how expensive it is to get a team of 100 or so personel on a flight + hotel, etc.   This is really a joke.  I can't see how this is financially possible.   


Tighten it up.  Get local rivalries.  Temple should be a no brainer.  Maybe UMass?  How about Bowling Green?  East Carolina?  Just really brain storming.  This conference clearly seems desperate.  And I suppose it should be.  The ACC can grab UConn and Rutgers whenever they want once Notre Dame firms up their situation. 


Nothing screams Big East like a South Florida - San Diego State matchup.


People who state things like this simply don't get it.  Temple has been doing better as of late and shows some promise but has an overall record of .437, UMass is barely over .500 but keep in mind that is an FCS team.  Bowling Green has a decent overall record at .588 but as of late has been producing losing seasons.  East Carolina is the only one of the bunch that seems to me would be a decent addition.  The bottom line is that the Big East is trying to preserve it's AQ status and none of the aforementioned teams (barring ECU on a good year) would do A THING to help preserve that.  It's clear you don't have a clue about travel costs yourself or the fact that the East and West Divisions would cut down on those significantly.  The additional estimated travel costs are about $300-$400K.  A small price to pay for the millions of additional revenue a BCS Bowl bid and media market bring in. 



Since: Dec 20, 2007
Posted on: November 8, 2011 2:32 pm
 

BYU, San Diego State possibilities for Big East

The best thing will be when the commissioner doesn't try to hide his anger and sends Pitt, Syracuse, and WVU TO Boise next year, along with any other west school that joins the BE.  They'll create their East/West divisions once those 3 leave the conference.  He'll keep the schedule easy on the new teams and slam the ones leaving.



Since: Nov 8, 2011
Posted on: November 8, 2011 2:08 pm
 

BYU, San Diego State possibilities for Big East

So its a dog eat dog world?  Is that what you are saying?  I'm no fan of Marinatto but if each of the conference commissioners acted with respect we could still have accomplished conference realignment without all the fear and uncertainty driving even more swirl.  So Mizzu is going to be in the SEC EAST?  And at the same time WVU is going to the B12?  And Colorado is in the PAC12 but Boise is going to fly to the East coast?  And do you think the PAC12 would really have taken Colorado and Utah if they thought they could have had Okl and Okl St the next year?  All these moves were reactionary instead of planned.  Even the SEC is guilty of reacting.  If the commissioners worked together they could have facilitated the moves that had to be made, prevented the moves made out of fear, and kept all these conferences and schools from looking like the greedy money whores they are instead of the institutions of higher learning that are supposed to turn boys and girls into men and women who will lead our country in the future.



Since: May 31, 2010
Posted on: November 8, 2011 1:22 pm
 

BYU, San Diego State possibilities for Big East

Why not Hawaii?  Can the Big East get further west?  Almost as ridiculous as the 10 team Big 12.



Since: Apr 26, 2008
Posted on: November 8, 2011 12:25 pm
 

BYU, San Diego State possibilities for Big East

Didn't mean to put ECU down, just saying BYU, Boise St, Houston and SMU have the sexier name.

I honestly wouldn't mind ECU in, not sure why they haven't even been mentioned or invited by the Big East thus far. I was just trying to explain to that person why geography wasn't important in the Big East's plan to expand, they're trying to keep their automatic bid.



Since: Sep 27, 2006
Posted on: November 8, 2011 12:03 pm
 

BYU, San Diego State possibilities for Big East

You also have to remember, the Big East is trying to KEEP their automatic bid, adding useless teams like UMASS, Bowling Green or East Carolina is only gonna weaken their stance. Money, tradition, fans, those teams bring nothing to the table. Boise St., BYU, Houston and San Diego St. are proven winners and have a tradition that BCS voters can identify with.
Have you lost your marbles? ECU sells out 50K seat stadium every week. We are 1.25 hours away from Raleigh which I think is in the top 20 in TV markets. We've won 2 out the 3 last CUSA championships and been to 5 bowl games in a row. All time, we are 8 & 2 against UCF, 6 & 5 aginst Houston, and 2 & 2 against SMU (teams taken from cusa ahead of us). Come to one of our games before you say we have no tradtion. We were only 2nd to BYU in attendance from non BCS Schools. And in the top 45 overall.   ...SDSU a proven winner? Well they've had a winning season last year and this. You have to go back aways to find a winning season before that. 


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