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BYU, San Diego State possibilities for Big East

Posted on: November 7, 2011 1:38 pm
Edited on: November 7, 2011 4:53 pm
Brigham Young is in discussions with the Big East about joining the league, while sources told that San Diego State also is seeking membership in the Big East.

BYU coach Bronco Mendenhall told reporters Monday that BYU had been “approached” by the Big East.

On Oct. 25, reported that the Western contingent of possible future Big East members was making a push to add BYU

“There is a push,” Mendenhall said Monday. “And there are conversations that are in place for the Big East to convince or to have BYU join that conference. I trust our athletic director (Tom Holmoe) and President (Cecil) Samuelson to deal with all that.”

With the upcoming departures of TCU and West Virginia to the Big 12 and Pittsburgh and Syracuse to the ACC, the Big East will need seven schools to get to a 12-member football league by 2014.

Last week, reported that the Big East's presidents and chancellors gave Commissioner John Marinatto authorization to extend invitations to Boise State, UCF, Houston, SMU, Navy and Air Force. Boise State, UCF, Houston and SMU will join the league together as a group, sources told, once Boise State finds a conference home for its Olympic sports.

Sources told that all six schools are committed to joining the Big East. However, the Colorado Springs Gazette reported that Air Force remains undecided. If Air Force stays in the Mountain West, the Big East would need two schools – presumably BYU and another school.

That’s where San Diego State comes into play. The Aztecs weren’t shy about their interest in joining the Big 12 and now have turned their attention to the Big East.

Despite the obvious geography and travel concerns, the biggest reason for San Diego State’s interest in the Big East is to be a part of an automatic qualifying BCS league. The Big East is guaranteed its BCS status through the 2013 season with a new BCS cycle beginning in 2014.

“Certainly there are a lot of questions on our part, but with the landscape changing the main benefit that I could see on a short term scale would be inclusion into the BCS system,” Mendenhall said about BYU. “That’s up in two years. Again whether the Big East is able hold that spot with the new teams coming in? My guess would be yes.”

San Diego State feels the same way. Despite the great distance to the Eastern league members (Cincinnati, UConn, South Florida, Navy, Rutgers, UCF), San Diego State would prefer an all-sports membership – or at least in football and men’s basketball – sources said. They also would be receptive to a football-only membership and could be in a Western division featuring Boise State, Houston, SMU, BYU and Louisville.

San Diego State leads the Mountain West in football attendance this season (38,802) and since 2010, the Aztecs have won a combined 48 games in football and men's basketball, the nation’s highest total.  San Diego State men's basketball team also has won 20 or more games and advanced to postseason play in six consecutive seasons, including back-to-back NCAA tournament appearances.

San Diego State athletic director Jim Sterk declined comment to, but recently told the San Diego Union-Tribune: “The best-scenario is that we’re in a league with an automatic qualifier, an enhanced television package and we’re generating revenues to run all our programs. That’s the No. 1 goal, whether that’s with the Mountain West, Big East, or Big 12.”

Last week, Boise State president Bob Kustra received authorization from the state of Idaho’s Board of Education to join the Big East as a football-only member. The Broncos still must find a conference home for their Olympic sports before making the move.

Kustra told the board that Boise State has made it “very clear” to the Big East “we would go in with a western partner.”

That could be Air Force, BYU or San Diego State – or two of those three schools.

Mendenhall said he did not know how quickly BYU would make a decision about the Big East. The Cougars are playing in their first season as a football independent after leaving the Mountain West Conference.

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Since: Oct 1, 2006
Posted on: November 8, 2011 1:17 am
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Since: Sep 3, 2007
Posted on: November 8, 2011 1:16 am

BYU, San Diego State possibilities for Big East

INSIDER INFO:  The single biggest remaining factor for Air Force joining the Big East is BYU.  Air Force *will* join the Big East if they know BYU will also, and the BYU-Air Force relationship has been a very healthy one for both schools for a very long time.  Word locally in Utah has been that losing the Air Force connection has been the single biggest lament for BYU.

Such a BYU Air Force move would most likely leave San Diego State out, which given the one-directional animosity that SDSU and its fan base have for BYU, is probably a good thing for BYU.


Since: Oct 1, 2006
Posted on: November 8, 2011 1:14 am
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Since: Nov 4, 2011
Posted on: November 8, 2011 12:33 am

BYU, San Diego State possibilities for Big East

I am really interested to know if Louiville would rather be in the Western half and play a couple of Texas teams every year plus BYU and Boise St. to boot, or in the Eastern half more closely aligned geographically. The West would have better teams, at least in the short run. And is Louisville that closely aligned geographically speaking with very many of the eastern teams? S. Florida, CF, and Cincy to some degree, but certainly not UConn, Rutgers, or Navy.

I really think the BE should definitely jump on BYU while the timing is right. Plus, they can join next year and thus the BE can let WV go for a price. Maybe if the BE allows WV to go to the Big 12 next year, thus helping the Big 12 to have 10 teams for next year, then maybe they can strike a deal with the Big 12 to leave their teams alone for a set period of time (maybe 4 years). If not, the BE should have the next 2 teams in mind (SDS, Memphis, Temple, etc.) and expand to 14 in the very near future. I wouldn't go that fast right away, allow for a couple of years of stability. It just seems that between the Big 12 and ACC teams like Rutgers, Louiville, and UConn are not done looking. This time the BE should get out ahead of this and maybe get to 14 before the next round of poaching begins (and it will).

While it may have come a little late, the BE commish has to be given kudos for his recent actions. I think the new BE football conference will be better than the old in time. I just hope they can do something on the BB side to make up for the losses of Pitt, Syr., and WV. Houston may regain their former glory, and Cent. Flor. and SMU are certainly rising up. No disrespect intended, but they are a big drop from the 3 former powers to be. Maybe they can invite a couple of schools for BB only, like Temple (of course Vill. doesn't want that) and Memphis, with the agreement that they would be the next 2 invites for football if and when they expanded again or had to replace more members leaving.

Since: Dec 6, 2006
Posted on: November 7, 2011 11:43 pm

BYU, San Diego State possibilities for Big East

BYU wants a national schedule, Navy wants a national schedule, Air Force wants a national schedule. The New Big East does that. And schools like Boise State, UConn, and Rutgers that aren't exactly located in recruting hotbeds actually benefit from this as well by playing a game a year in either Texas or Florida, and then two games every four years in Florida or Texas.

Since: Dec 6, 2006
Posted on: November 7, 2011 11:37 pm

BYU, San Diego State possibilities for Big East

BYU would be a great add for the league and it is really a no-risk move at his point for BYU because they already have a home for olympic sports. BYU would bring in some more good BCS numbers for the Big East, while being allowed both a chance to play a national schedule (that is one advantage of the new Big East, no matter how much people are dissing on it) and a chance to compete for an automatic BCS bid. The new lineup will obviously be the worst from top to bottom in the AQ status conferences, but it will be a league that can produce a top 4-5 team every year, something we can't say about the suddenly "strong" ACC. Sure, the history isn't there and the conference map is hard on the eyes, but Marinatto is a visionary with this move. Considering the state of the Big East before, this is the best he could do and I have agreed with all of the bids they have handed out so far; and BYU and San Diego State are the two other schools I thought should be bidded. This league is basically an all-star lineup of non-AQ programs, but will keep its AQ bid because the schools are cumulatively good enough to. I say it is safe through at least 2020 if they get BYU on board. The conference is great for recruiting. Schools in the west will play one game in Texas each year and schools in the east will play one game in Florida each year. There are a couple of teams from the mountain region, a couple from the east coast, and a couple from the midwest. Although the midwest region will be the only one that they will be the strongest league in, recruiters can still sell 3 star Texas and Florida recruits on the idea of playing at a Big East school. If they dip into California, that is just more beneficial to the league. Do folks not realize that Boise, BYU, Air Force, and presumably San Diego State would all be FOOTBALL-ONLY MEMBERS. That means the Big East doesn't have to deal with the subpar athletic teams that some of these schools field (not that they would be any worse athletic programs than Marquette, DePaul, or Seton Hall), while still benefitting from the football side. I like what the Big East has done with expansion, although I actually would prefer BYU and San Diego State over Navy, so that Louisville can stay east.

Since: Dec 13, 2007
Posted on: November 7, 2011 11:26 pm

BYU, San Diego State possibilities for Big East

The Big East will be better then ever and WILL retain it's BCS qualifying bid. I actually think football is stronger and has just taken the best of the rest.

West-BYU, SMU, Air Force, UH, UofL, Boise St.
East- USF, Navy, UCF, Rutgers, UConn, Cincy

Imagine if MariaNOTo had the courage to be agressive and proactive the league might have looked as follows...

West-BYU, SMU, Air Force, UH, UofL, Boise St. TCU, Memphis
East- USF, Navy, Rutgers, UConn, Cincy, Pitt, WVU, Syracuse

Since: Sep 22, 2011
Posted on: November 7, 2011 11:08 pm

BYU, San Diego State possibilities for Big East

"Epic disaster in the Big East. No other words to describe it. Marinatto is making Dan Beebe look like he was a genius at this point. It's one thing to chase off schools but at least the Big 12 recovered. The Big East is heading toward the toilet and its spat with WVU is a classic example. Rather than negotiate a buyout (HEY DUMBY--MORE MONEY FOR THE CONFERENCE!!!) West Virginia is suing its way out. Syracuse and Pitt agreed to wait but they might not have to at this rate. You would have to be desperate to jump on this Titanic. Boise State should stick to the Mountain West which will at least be around in all sports. The Big East will dissolve in football.

I am predicting Notre Dame running off with Providence, Seton Hall, St. John's, DePaul, Marquette, Villanova and Georgetown to form their own league leaving the other schools behind. UConn and Rutgers go to the ACC and USF can go to Conference USA. "

If Boise were running off by itself to join the other 5 remaining Big East schools then I would agree,  HOWEVER with the proposed Big East it is a better conference, barring 2 teams that are still struggling a bit every one of the proposed 12 teams has an overall winning record.  In the mountain west there are 4 teams with overall losing records and the MWC/C-USA merger there are 10.  Sticking to the MWC leaves no growth opportunities there will always be a non-AQ conference to join. 

Since: Oct 28, 2007
Posted on: November 7, 2011 11:01 pm

BYU, San Diego State possibilities for Big East

The Big East is not a "joke" for expanding westward.

Texas A&M is in Texas.  Texas is a region unto itself, but if you had to classify it differently, it would be Southwest.  Missouri is in the heart of what is traditionally called the Midwest.  Are you also insinuating that the Southest Conference is lying and "a joke?"

Colorado is in the Mountains.  It is not near the Pacific.  Why does the Pac12 think it is doing here?

The Big12 does not have 12 teams?  What's going on?

Why ask stupid questions, Syracuse Mike?  If you are trying to discredit the new Big East, you have to come up with more compelling arguments than making allusions to the Middle East.  The new Big East will be competitive and will definitely maintain its AQ status, whether you like it or not. 

I would love to see Houston take on Syracuse next week.  Houston football has a very strong tradition.  Before the Southwest Conference dissolved to form the Big 12, Houston regularly took on opponents much stronger than the 'Cuse in football.  Houston has a strong basketball tradition, although their last real "glory days" were in the Phi Slamma Jamma era.  No need to hate on the new Big East simply because your school is leaving for the ACC.  If you have more rational reasons to dislike the Big East, then you should state them in a reasonable manner.

Since: May 10, 2008
Posted on: November 7, 2011 10:49 pm

BYU, San Diego State possibilities for Big East

All you right coasters and land locked folks are just scared of Faulk U.

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