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SDSU in no hurry w/Big East, BYU no Big 12 offer

Posted on: November 28, 2011 10:50 pm
Edited on: November 28, 2011 10:51 pm

San Diego State and the Big East began discussions last week about the Aztecs joining the league as a football-only member, but don’t expect the Aztecs to make a decision anytime soon.

Meanwhile BYU athletic director Tom Holmoe said Monday night the Cougars never had an invitation to the Big 12 and the school  is “at an impasse (with the Big East) and not able to move any further.”

College football industry sources said San Diego State officials informed the Big East it will need some time before determining whether to join the league as a football-only member.

“They might not be in a hurry,” a source said.

The Big East is looking at San Diego State as a football-only member after the Big East decided to “move on” from negotiations with the Cougars after BYU wanted to retain its television rights for its home football games.

Sources said San Diego State “is still very excited about the opportunity” to join the Big East, but estimated it could take anywhere from “two to three weeks” to “a few months.”

The Big East is pursuing the Aztecs because Boise State has said it wants a guarantee of a Western partner before joining the league.

UCF, Houston and SMU are prepared to join the league but want to join in a group with Boise State. So those three schools are waiting on Boise State while the Broncos are waiting on a Western partner – either San Diego State or Air Force – and Navy is waiting until those other schools join before it commits.

BYU began discussions with the Big East after the Big 12 “decided to go in a different direction,” Holmoe said Monday night on BYU coach Bronco Mendenhall’s radio show.

“At this time things have slowed down (with the Big East),” Holmoe said. “I think it’s apparent.”

Holmoe said BYU and the Big East were able to go through a number of issues very quickly.

“But there were some uncertainties when it got to the end," he said. "Some television issues, and other issues. We are at an impasse and couldn’t go any further.

“They were eager to make this happen, to get BYU on board. We weren’t ready to do this. We gave them a proposal – I’m not sure exactly how it got out – we could do that, we could sign on right now if there were TV rights for our home games. But that would have been certain; we would have known exactly what we were getting into.

“We tried to come up with a possible solution, once we reached an impasse.”

Holmoe also said BYU never had any television discussions with the Big 12.

“We didn’t get too far down the road (with the Big 12),” Holmoe said.

Even though, the Cougars left the Mountain West last season to become an independent in football, Holmoe and Mendenhall both said the school sounded eager to join a conference.

“We’re continuing looking for conference affiliation if it were to come along, we’re not hanging posters on conference doors,” Holmoe said. “We’re going to keep our eyes open.”

Mendenhall added that “at some point, some one in a conference will say that’s a ‘very unique brand that wins a lot of football games that has a worldwide following and has tremendous assets and we want them.’ ”

A source told last week that the Big East had “moved on” and was no longer pursuing BYU as a football member.

“The Big East, I respect them so much,” Holmoe said. “I’m not in position to tell them where things are.”


Since: Nov 29, 2011
Posted on: November 29, 2011 6:10 pm

SDSU in no hurry w/Big East, BYU no Big 12 offer

Yes, BYU does have a worldwide following. I am a byu fan and live in the United Kingdom. I get together with other blokes in my community to watch BYU on ESPN/byutv and we always have a good laugh. I know many other BYU gatherings in my county and I'm sure byu is watched throughout my country and thousands watch in many other countries. Would you like to know more about BYU?

Since: Sep 21, 2011
Posted on: November 29, 2011 4:48 pm

SDSU in no hurry w/Big East, BYU no Big 12 offer

It is time for Boise, Houston,SDSU,Wyoming,SMU,Utah State,Nevada,FresnoState,Airforce,Hawaii(football only), Montana and another team or four   to make a new league.  They need 12 schools for football the will also be able to get a good TV contract (between 40 and 100 mil a year because they would be the  only league, with top 25 teams to have a contract open for a Major network - ESPN needs some week night games,CBS,Fox and NBC may have some interest). 

This would make a med to good football conference (Boise,Houston, AirForce, Wyoming,Nevada,Hawaii,SanDiegoState, FresnoState-every 2 or 3 years, Hawaii and Montana).  They would be Good at Basketball  (UtahState,Houston, FresnoState,SanDiegoState, Nevada).  They need to leave at least 1 or 2 teams for the MWC so they can say they are not the same conference. 


Since: Nov 3, 2006
Posted on: November 29, 2011 4:13 pm

SDSU in no hurry w/Big East, BYU no Big 12 offer

Apparently no one is in a hurry to join the Big East.

Many, however, are in a hurry to leave it.   

Since: Oct 25, 2007
Posted on: November 29, 2011 2:04 pm

SDSU in no hurry w/Big East, BYU no Big 12 offer

@I3oogieman - I couldn't agree more. It makes zero sense they have to join as a group. I understand that nobody WANTS to be the first to commit, but somebody HAS to be the first to commit, or none of these schools have accomplished anything. Even the Boise-western travel partner issue shouldn't be a deal-braker. With football-only they would only be making a few really long trips a year. As for the C-USA schools, they have nothing to lose, to whoever that says C-USA is a better place to be is on crack.

SDSU in basketball is very interesting to me as a die-hard b-ball fan and I would like to see it happen, but I don't think SDSU should make that a deal-braker either, although they should make a push for it. Even with football-only your athletic dept will make a ton more cash.

On a final note, I did not realize BYU was so full of itself. They speak of world-wide following? They must be referring to the 3 Mormons that moved to Japan. I thought it was just a Utah-northen AZ kinda thing. I don't mean to trash BYU too much, but to give away rights to their home games is an unreasonable request, and BYU doesn't hold the key - Houston and Boise do - they have the rankings not BYU.

Since: Apr 3, 2008
Posted on: November 29, 2011 1:49 pm

SDSU in no hurry w/Big East, BYU no Big 12 offer

GOOD, smart move SDSU..... no rush, no hurry..... take a real deep look at the pros and cons of leaving for the Big East..... especially since they want football only. That means our basketball team would be sacraficed and dropped to a lower conference like the Big West. Our basketball team has proven themselves and are winning and making noise, they DO NOT deserve being sacraficed for football. I love SDSU football but NOT at the expense of SDSU basketball...... which is our sport that has been making noise and have proven to be a solid and a winning program in the past half decade.

SDSU basketball could also help the Big East since they will be loosing basketball teams also I presume with the defection of the other teams. I'm pushing the following and I hope more SDSU students, Alums and grads follow ..... take signs make poster boards and go to basketball home games and show your support for the basketball team and Coach Steve Fisher..... SDSU basketball has paid its dues and do NOT deserve being droped down. Everyone repeat after me.........


Since: Sep 19, 2011
Posted on: November 29, 2011 1:33 pm

SDSU in no hurry w/Big East, BYU no Big 12 offer

Like sands from the hour glass so are the days of the BIG EAST! This just makes me sick to see this happen to the the time these schools commit to joining 3 more schools will leave. Why do these schools have to join as a group? If im Louisville or Cincy it would make me feel more comfortable as a member if the ones that are coming would come already. If this would happen it would add a sense of stability to the conference and school like Louisville and Cincy might not leave at the 1st sign that someone else is interested. Im so glad WVU is out of this mess they call a conference but extremly upset with the fact we wont play alot of our BE rivals. Ill truly miss BE football and thought it was a solid conference a few years ago! Thanks Notre Dame and all Basketball schools for ruining a great conference!

Since: Jul 9, 2010
Posted on: November 29, 2011 12:58 pm

SDSU in no hurry w/Big East, BYU no Big 12 offer

SDSU's administration is making the right decision by not joining the BIG EAST now or later.  The BIG EAST needs to go ahead and announce the teams who they've invited and accepeted, then the rest of the teams should come together to make 12 teams. I continue to feel that Notre Dame being permitted to take a BIG EAST bowl spot hurts the league in future football expansion. Most of the football schools who are present members of the BE, does not like this arrangement with Notre Dame, since ND refuses to be a member of the BE Football conference.  The BE will always have problems in football until this Notre Dame arrangement is corrected. This has been going on for 15 years now with ND getting BE bowl picks. TERRIBLE to say the least !!

Since: Oct 30, 2006
Posted on: November 29, 2011 12:44 pm

SDSU in no hurry w/Big East, BYU no Big 12 offer

Classic. More inadequate leadership issues with Marinatto & The BEast. He'll fiddle until the bitter end... Enjoy your last year of minor relevance John

Since: Oct 23, 2011
Posted on: November 29, 2011 12:13 pm

SDSU in no hurry w/Big East, BYU no Big 12 offer

DYNA  Houston, SMU, and UCF are ready, but they wanted to announce the Joining with all the teams as a group. Those 3 teams have been getting a little impatience with Boise, Navy and Air Force. That is why i said they should just go ahead and announce as a group of 3 C-USA schools and get the expansion started and the other teams will follow. Navy would probably be the next one to announce.   

Since: Jun 10, 2011
Posted on: November 29, 2011 11:55 am

SDSU in no hurry w/Big East, BYU no Big 12 offer

Talk, talk, talk ... but it really looks like nobody of major significance is willing to actually comit to join the Big East - the "discussions" put their names in the news  - which they find useful - but when you get down to it, they don't seem to see the long term benefit of joining the effort to prop up a rapidly declining conference  - probably because they don't see any real genuine "effort " going on  - just a lot of talk and if's and maybe's - while key members keep jumping ship.

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