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Boise State, 4 others to join Big East in 2013

Posted on: December 6, 2011 12:50 pm
Edited on: December 7, 2011 9:05 am
Boise State, San Diego State, Houston, SMU and UCF will join the Big East Conference in 2013, sources told

The announcement will be made Wednesday. The league will hold a 5 p.m. ET teleconference to formally discuss the new members. Realignment map: The new Big East

Boise State and San Diego State will join the Big East as football-only members, while Houston, SMU and UCF will join as all-sport members. Boise State is expected to put its non-football sports in the WAC, while San Diego State would place its non-football sports in the Big West, sources told

With the addition of those five schools -- minus the departures of West Virginia, Pittsburgh and Syracuse -- the Big East will have 10 football members.

With those five schools on board, Navy is expected to join as a football-only member -- possibly as soon as next week -- to boost the football membership to 11 schools.

The Big East hopes to add Air Force as its 12th football school -- as a football-only member -- but the Falcons still remain undecided.

If the Big East cannot get Air Force, Temple would be a likely candidate to become the Big East's 12th member.

Even with the new schools, sources also told that the Big East still plans to make West Virginia, Syracuse and Pittsburgh honor the league's 27-month exit requirement and stay in the league until June 30, 2014. Big East commissioner John Marinatto has said previously the league could have more than 12 football members and 16 basketball members during the 2013 season.

However, West Virginia AD Oliver Luck told two weeks ago the Mountaineers are planning to join the Big 12 next season.

"We're planning on all sports spending the 2012-13 academic year in the Big 12," Luck said. "The Big 12 folks haven't given us a [deadline] date. We're 100 percent focused on competing in the Big 12 and with this season closing, have time to prepare for next year.

"Our coaches are starting to think about Kansas State, Oklahoma and Texas and all the other schools we'll be facing in the Big 12 next year."

Both West Virginia and the Big East have filed lawsuits. West Virginia claims it should not have to honor the 27-month commitment, while the Big East contends West Virginia may not leave before 2014.

Syracuse and Pittsburgh have not filed a lawsuit to join the ACC early, but are monitoring the West Virginia situation. If WVU leaves before 2014, Syracuse and Pittsburgh would do the same, sources said.


Since: Oct 23, 2011
Posted on: December 7, 2011 4:29 pm

Why would The Big 12 Invite WVU instead of Boise

Hey Crispytoe!!!  The reason the Big 12 invited WVU instead of Boise is Money, they want a School that can bring revenue to the conference and not a team that would be a revenue burden. Another reason is that WVU brings a school that has been a top 25 school in football and B-Ball. Since the BCS started WVU is rank 16th. in Combine Football and B-ball rankings. Plus WVU brings a larger fan base and a better TV market than Boise. And WVU'S football and B-Ball will draw more fans to the games then Boise would.

Since: Jan 4, 2007
Posted on: December 7, 2011 3:58 pm

Boise State, 4 others to join Big East in 2013

Neither does Washington State (and no Veterinary medicine does not count)

What kind of ignorant moron are you???

You do know it's harder to get into Vet school than it is Med school? You do know it's harder to graduate Vet school than Med school? Think of it this way doofus...In medical school you learn how to treat humans. In Vet school you learn how to treat dogs, cats, cows, pigs, horses, sheep, birds, snakes, turtles, hamsters, ferrets, gerbils, rats, monkies, etc...get it yet????

Where do you think any new medical procedures for humans comes from?? It comes from vet medicine you ignoramus!!  


Since: Jan 4, 2007
Posted on: December 7, 2011 3:39 pm

Boise State, 4 others to join Big East in 2013

Boise to the Big 12 would have made so much more sense. It would have been a great move for both.

I don't understand why the Big 12 goes after WVU and not Boise?!?!?! Did the Big 12 chicken out? Were they afraid of adding a team that would instantly compete for a Big 12 Championship???   

Since: Dec 7, 2011
Posted on: December 7, 2011 2:42 pm

Boise State, 4 others to join Big East in 2013

Hard to understand how you think replaceing Nebraska and A&M with TCU and West Virginia was not an upgrade for the Big 12 conferance.
Neb and A&M record for 2011 is 15-9
TCU and WV for 2011 is 19-5
That is as close as it gets. If you look at the last 10 years the disparity is even worse. Nebraska has been an average team the last 10 years and A&M is a doormat.

Since: Jul 22, 2007
Posted on: December 7, 2011 1:59 pm

Boise State, 4 others to join Big East in 2013

Boise has the same ACT score standards as ASU, Oregon State & Washington State - a score of 23 is needed for admission.
The medical school thing is BS too as Oregon, Oregon State, Arizona State and Washington State do NOT have medical schools as part of their campus or affiliation.
Boise DOES have a graduate program too : Oh yeah and when was the last time there was a Rhodes scholar came out of any Pac 12 University other than Stanford, Cal or Washington?
The interesting thing about this Boise talk is these were the very same things said about Miami when Howard Schnellenberger took over there except he had the luxury of doing it in a city (Miami) which puts out some of the best recruits every year.
Boise doesn't have that but they have built themselves a nice program and it will be fun to see what all those who bash Boise have to say when they do get their chance in the BCS title game and win the whole thing THEN would they be "allowed at the adults table"?
What a condescending notion and if that doesn't reek of snobbery & self importance I don't know what does. 

Since: Jul 22, 2007
Posted on: December 7, 2011 1:52 pm

Boise State, 4 others to join Big East in 2013

SDBlue if you think for a MINUTE that it matters to the Pac 12 at ALL that Boise doesn't have a medical school you're sadly mistaken!
ASU doesn't have a medical school:
Neither does Washington State (and no Veterinary medicine does not count), Oregon or Oregon State.
Oh and Boise DOES have a graduate program: http://gradcoll.boise

I'm not a Boise honk or graduate just sharing the information that is readily available.
You also might want to know that the minimum ACT requirement to get into Boise is a score of 23 which is the same requirement for ASU, OSU & Wazzu.
It all comes down to snobbery, Pac 12 fans think their schools are that much better than Boise and don't feel they should be included in the same breath as their hallowed institutions.
It's either that or they're afraid to have Boise in their conference knowing that Boise would have given them much tougher games than some of their current conference opponents and for the schools in the eastern part of the Pac 12 like Wazzu, Oregon State & to some extent Oregon they don't want more competition for recruits!
If Boise was in the Pac 12 then a kid who was considering going to Oregon State, or Wazzu or heck any other school could conceivably say to themselves : "I could go to Boise and still play in the Pac 12" especially if that kid wasn't getting the solid scholarship offer from USC, Oregon, UCLA, or Washington and those schools wouldn't be able to make the kid wait it out because they would have more competition.
THAT is what it's all about! Yeah Boise is a small TV market but the ratings for a game against them would be a boon for any Pac 12 team that played them any particular week. 

Since: Dec 6, 2006
Posted on: December 7, 2011 1:49 pm

Boise State, 4 others to join Big East in 2013

Boise State's academics along with their blue field would never ever be considered for the Pac-12... the Pac-12 prides itself on traditions, education, and athletics. This is something Boise State knows nothing about.

I would like to see what Boise State could do if they actually played two quality teams two weeks in a row or only have one week to prepare for a quality opponent. At the end of the day Boise State can claim that everboby fear them however the Broncos still have not won back to back week of quality opponents.

You have to have been invited to the adult table before you can spout off... in other words nobody cares what you think or say due to being just another punk kid!  

Since: Jul 22, 2007
Posted on: December 7, 2011 1:37 pm

Boise State, 4 others to join Big East in 2013

The Pac 12 most certainly DID improve by adding Utah & Colorado!
They could have done even more for themselves if they had brought in Boise and perhaps either Air Force or Nevada as 14th members.
The problem is the Pac 12 is perpetuating an air of snobbery as it pretains to Boise in particular when the academic standards for attending Boise are the exact same as they are at Washington State, Oregon State, Arizona State & Arizona.
Sure Boise isn't a alrge TV market BUT you get coverage all the way over to Montana, down into Nevada and with the current members you would have coverage as far east as Wyoming & the Dakotas (with Colorado garnering the easternmost coverage) and all the way down to Arizona! You would literally have the western third to almost half the country tv coverage wise which equals more eyes from potential recruits.
The fact that Boise had to go to the Big East to be eligible to play in the BCS title game just points to even more just how flawed the system is, I never thought I'd say this but why not cut down on the number of Bowls and make the threshhold for being "bowl eligible" higher? You could then use an earlier bowl game as a playoff game with the Championship game being rotated amongst the four major bowls - Orange, Rose, Sugar & Fiesta that way every 4 years each bowl is guaranteed to host the championship and no one sponsor or bowl feels slighted at all and make that Bowl game the week before the Superbowl, no one really cares about the superbowl hype & media days so why not have the Championship bowl the Sunday before the Superbowl then the next week have the Superbowl itself THAT would be an amazing way to go into the football offseason both college & professional.
So this year you could have LSU(1) play Stanford(4) at the Orange Bowl (treat it like a homegame for LSU since they have the higher record), & Oklahoma State(3) play Alabama(2) at either the Fiesta or Rose Bowl with the winners of those games to play in the Sugar Bowl the week before the SuperBowl.
That still leaves one bowl game not in the mix but that bowl game would be guaranteed the championship game the next season and still have a pretty good match up this season which in this case would be Oregon(5) vs Arkansas(6) or Boise State(7).
That would make it fair & equitable AND if you played the playoff bowl games the first week of January like they were traditionally played you would have 2 possibly 3 weeks before your next game which would give you plenty of time to rest AND for those fans who want to go to the championship game plenty of time to get ticket allotments out and for people to make travel plans.

Since: Mar 17, 2010
Posted on: December 7, 2011 1:34 pm

Boise State, 4 others to join Big East in 2013

It has nothing to do with football for the PAC 12. BSU has no graduate programs or medical school. Big 12 I don't understand why other than your reason. Maybe because BSU just can't compete with the other NCAA programs?  PAC 12 is full of weird chancellors and very left winged thinking. For example, why Utah and not BYU. Who would fill the stadium? BYU. But in that case opposites (far left Berkely and Stanford etc) don't attract. Don't worry BSU will do better with more TV exposure. They got more exposure in the WAC than the Mtn. BSU has to continue to attract better players. This should help them. I was against it at first but thinking about it, BSU couldn't stay in the Mtn.

Since: Mar 17, 2010
Posted on: December 7, 2011 1:25 pm

Boise State, 4 others to join Big East in 2013

SDSU gets what? Money 6.5 mil vs current 1.5 mil in tv. So nice money but a lot of downside.  Small fan base. For example. In the past you could go to BYU vs SDSU and it was louder when BYU made a touch down or great play. Kind of embarrassing.  SDSU will go into those bigger schools and the local team won't fill the larger stadiums. ESPN coverage will be minimal.  Traveling costs and the kids academics will be challenged. Let's try and not forget that 99.9% of the college ranks don't make it to the NFL. I hope the pot is sweeter than the 6.5 mil because we know BSU wouldn't have gone over without teams in the west. No incentive for BYU. Their TV contracts make more than the Big East was willing to give up.
BSU will wrap up the west almost every year. So it is good for them. The rest of their programs suck and eventually their swagger will not be so exciting. Because they games won't be david vs goliath.
If the SDSU basketball team would have been invited then we are talking some real stuff. Sweet 16 will soon be a regular and this year might just go that far or better. SAD! Everyone wants to watch them. SDSU is a basketball school. They would be the top dog almost every year in the western division. Houston BB and SDSU BB that would be fun. Not fair. Oh well, they will be the Big fish in small pond playing in the "Big West".

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