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Pitt, Syracuse won't try to join ACC this fall

Posted on: February 14, 2012 8:46 am

Although West Virginia is bolting from the Big East early, Pittsburgh and Syracuse will not leave the Big East this fall for the Atlantic Coast Conference, college football industry sources told

West Virginia, Pittsburgh and Syracuse were scheduled to leave the Big East in 2014, but the Mountaineers filed a lawsuit to exit early. reported last week that West Virginia and the Big East reached a verbal agreement that would pay the Big East $20 million and resolve the issues between the two parties, allowing the Mountaineers to join the Big 12 on July 1. 

Sources told that Pittsburgh and Syracuse won’t try to leave this summer, but will attempt to negotiate deals to allow them to join the ACC a year early in 2013. Unlike West Virginia, Pittsburgh and Syracuse have not pursued any legal action to get out of the Big East’s 27-month exit requirement and leave before 2014.

The main reason Pittsburgh and Syracuse are not trying to leave the Big East this season is both schools don’t want to be “any more disruptive to the Big East” for the coming season. If Pittsburgh and Syracuse left for the ACC this summer, the Big East could be down to only five football members.

Another reason, Pittsburgh and Syracuse aren’t trying to join the ACC this fall, is because the ACC doesn’t desperately need the teams to fill out this year’s league schedule, like the Big 12 needed West Virginia to replace Missouri in its 2012 schedule.

With West Virginia paying $20 million to leave the Big East two years early, Pittsburgh and Syracuse each would likely have been required to pay the same amount to leave this summer. Also by waiting until 2013, they likely can negotiate a deal to only pay $10 million – double the $5 they initially paid when they announced they were leaving. That $10 million figure is the Big East’s current exit fee since Navy announced it was joining the league last month.

Finally the timing of a move in 2013 for Pittsburgh and Syracuse also would make more sense logistically since that’s when the Big East will be adding six members – Boise State, San Diego State, Houston, Memphis, SMU and UCF.

In December, Syracuse athletic director Daryl Gross said his school would honor the Big East’s 27-month exit agreement, but indicated the Orange preferred to leave sooner.

“We’re just open to seeing what happens,” Gross told two months ago. “They (the Big East) are starting to put together what the new Big East will look like. As they go forward to put together new multi-media deals, they’re going to need us to move out of the way. We’re waiting for that.”

Big East commissioner John Marinatto has said repeatedly that West Virginia, Pittsburgh and Syracuse would not be allowed to exit the league until 2014.

Two weeks ago, when the ACC announced that Pittsburgh would compete in the ACC’s Coastal Division and Syracuse in the ACC’s Atlantic Division when they officially join the league, ACC commissioner John Swofford would not speculate whether the ACC would help Pitt and Syracuse financially to leave the Big East before 2014.

“The fact we made our decision how we will schedule and compete certainly helps us (when they join),” Swofford said. “In terms of when that time may come, I don’t want to get into a hypothetical of this or that. Our position continues to be that we want to prepare ourselves when they’re ready and it’s appropriate for them to join us.”

That won’t be this summer, but the ACC won’t have to wait until 2014 either.


Since: Jan 22, 2012
Posted on: February 15, 2012 8:10 am

Pitt, Syracuse won't try to join ACC this fall

Said by mikeee_56
You apparently didn't read the article above.. Cuse and Pitt will in fact be playing football in the ACC in 2013..  That's the football season after next football season...  Drrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Marinara sauce said just yesterday he is holding Pitt and Syracuse to 2014....  Drrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Since: Jan 22, 2012
Posted on: February 15, 2012 8:08 am

Pitt, Syracuse won't try to join ACC this fall

Said by Packranger4
Smorgie @ the Y, what makes you think the ACC doesn't play defense?  Are you talking about the Orange Bowl.  Yes, Clemson had their worst defensive game of the year.  Sadly for the ACC, it just happened to be on a big stage.  If you want to talk about another bowl game, how about last year's Champs Sports Bowl, where NCSU beat WVU 23-7.  Defense?  I think we played some in that game.  Secondly, if you look at a lot of the stats nationally, you'll find ACC players near the top of each category, especially INTs where NCSU's David Amerson led the nation this year with 13.  If you want to talk about a conference not playing defense, wait until you get into the Big XII.  I mean Graham Harrell put up stupid numbers in that conference for goodness sake.  Have fun in that conference where your nearest opponent will be in Ames, IA.
And you're comparing two totally different teams.  WVU had one of the worst offenses in the country in 2010-11, thanks to Bill Stewart.  That's kind of why Dana Holgorsen was running things this year.  Way to overlook the obvious.  This was WVU's first year with Holgorsen.  Just keep that in mind as you realize a whole new offense was installed and 8 new defensive starters came in.

Since: Sep 28, 2008
Posted on: February 15, 2012 5:23 am

Pitt, Syracuse won't try to join ACC this fall

Why should Pitt and Syracuse care if the Big East will be left with five football schools?

It's not their fault the conference can't manage programs and has 2x as many basketball schools as football schools.

Perhaps the Big East would understand how much they need to improve the football side of the conference if this were to happen. 

Since: Dec 21, 2008
Posted on: February 15, 2012 1:03 am

Pitt, Syracuse won't try to join ACC this fall

West Virginia had to leave so they wouldn't have to play Syracuse again in football...LMAO

Since: Jan 17, 2012
Posted on: February 15, 2012 12:54 am

Pitt, Syracuse won't try to join ACC this fall,  HEY,  you got deleted by the Administrators on this site, wow there is a surprise.  You only got on today, Feb 15th to put on a comment that the ADMINISTRATORS NEEDED TO DELETE!  College educated are you?  Big East and Marinatto hit too much of a nerve or was it that MountainQueer alumni that you didn't like?

Since: Feb 15, 2012
Posted on: February 15, 2012 12:39 am
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Since: Jan 17, 2012
Posted on: February 14, 2012 11:05 pm

Pitt, Syracuse won't try to join ACC this fall

Pitt and Syracuse will leave when the time is right.  All parties to the agreement have to be united as to what is best for all involved and in that sense however long it takes is however long it takes.  WVU is a quagmire of colo-rectal activity, just ask Rich Rodriguez.  Big East commissioner John Marinatto is just a Soprano wanna be.  The Big East is DEAD!  Marinatto and the rest just sat by and let it die on the vine.  How much money is Marinatto getting?  There you go, nuf said.

Since: Sep 22, 2009
Posted on: February 14, 2012 10:43 pm

Pitt, Syracuse won't try to join ACC this fall

The Big East leadership has failed the Big East membership for years. It is no surprise that the trend continues. By accepting 20 million from WVU and the Big 12 in exchange for an early exit, the Big East showed its cards. The BE legal team tries to save face and have the court rule that the by-laws are somehow enforceable, when in reality, they were not. Part of the negotiation between the BE and WVU was that the court would make a ruling based on some form of bylaw. Who in their right legal mind would believe that?

BE Leadership showed their weakness by negotiating a lame agreement where the court will rule that the bylaws were enforceable. From the WVU perspective, who cares. They want out so they would agree to that as it is no skin off their mulletts. This is an example of the corrupt nature of litigation in West Virginia. In most venues, when a case is settled during trial, rulings are not made on the case per se'. Case suspended, settled and withdrawn, yet in WV, the legal maneuvering by the BE and supported by a disinterested party is taken to a new level. Laughable and embarrasing for the BE leadership, yet again.

To protect itself from further shame, the BE would be wise to allow Pitt and Syracuse to exit immediately. Okay, to make this even more fun, they should show the two teams the door in about four weeks. This allows the BE to win the public relations game and to say we are better than you. Be gone and good luck. Give us your 8 million fee and move on. The BE profits from this move because it needs as much time as possible to show the BCS, that they are a formiddable conference going forward. The longer Pitt and Syracuse remain, the weaker the argument becomes for keeping the BE relevant because they will have non BE schools in their conference during an evaluation period.

The more time that the BE gets to be on its own without Big 12 and ACC schools in the picture, the better for the BE. That's like walking into a presentation to lure a client with your big sales guy who says, buy us, but I am leaving. IT is best to get rid of the cancer and start fresh. What rock is the BE leadership living under? Brand the new BE with BE teams. By keeping any resemblance to the old BE, it shows a lack of foresight by a leadership group that continues to fail its membership. I always thought the BE leadership was strong, but now see that they are weak and getting weaker with every move.

Good luck to WVU. At some point, you will need to find the right conference because the Big12 is not a good fit. Mr. Luck should be ashamed to sell out your university as he did, just to leave. HAd he had any confidence in the University, he would have stood his ground and waited for the next round of expansion. Fourth and fifth place finishes in the Big 12 will not help the branding of WVU, even in WV.   

Since: Jan 25, 2012
Posted on: February 14, 2012 10:29 pm

Pitt, Syracuse won't try to join ACC this fall

"Big East should now quickly sign Air Force and Temple for 2013(when Pitt and cuse leave) and have 12 team FB and 20 team BB schedule. "-------------------Really. Why don't you get Florida Atlantic anc West Texas State while you're at it. Aside from West Virginia, the Big East has been a Big Joke since Miami, BC, and Virginia Tech left and it's getting profoundly worse. Air Force would be better served staying in the new MWC/Conference USA alignment.

Since: Nov 29, 2006
Posted on: February 14, 2012 10:19 pm

Pitt, Syracuse won't try to join ACC this fall

Princeton has won more football championships than Miami. What's the point of the Miami poster? Army was a national power when Blanchard and Davis played. What does that have to do with the present? Over the last six or seven seasons, WVU has fielded a better overall football team than Miami.  Three BCS bowl victories in that span vs. zero fro Miami just about says it all. The past is the past. Miami used to be a juggernaut program. But then again, so was Princeton.

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