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Temple likely headed to Big East in 2012

Posted on: February 22, 2012 1:23 pm
Edited on: February 22, 2012 5:46 pm
DALLAS – Temple is close to joining the Big East as an all-sports member in 2012, college football industry sources told Wednesday morning.

The addition of Temple is imperative for the Big East, which desperately needs a school to replace West Virginia this fall after the Mountaineers reached a $20 million agreement with the league to leave for the Big 12.

One source told that Temple to the Big East in 2012 "is done."

An announcement could be made as early as next week, sources told

MAC commissioner Jon Steinbrecher, attending the BCS meetings at the Dallas-Fort Worth Airport Grand Hyatt Hotel, told that discussions are ongoing between Temple and the Big East.

"I don't know where those will lead," Steinbrecher said.

Big East commissioner John Marinatto, also at the BCS meetings, declined comment Wednesday.

The Big East initially wanted Boise State, which will join in 2013, to join this fall as West Virginia’s replacement. However, the Big East was not willing to provide the Broncos with about $10 million they needed to leave the Mountain West in football and have their Olympic sports join the WAC a year early.

Boise State president Bob Kustra confirmed Wednesday afternoon that the Broncos would remain in the Mountain West in the 2012-13 season.

"While we have had several discussions with the Big East and the WAC in moving our sports into those two leagues a year earlier than previously stated, the University feels there were too many obstacles to overcome to make the move at this time," Kustra said in a statement. "While there certainly would have been advantages in making the move a year early, it became clear that it would not be fiscally responsible, as all of the expenses associated with early entry into the two conferences would not be covered."

Boise State would have had to pay the Mountain West between $8 million and $9 million and also pay the WAC $1.5 million.

With Boise State out of the picture, the Big East then turned its attention to Temple. The Mid-American Conference's exit fee is $2.5 million with two years notice, but it's unknown what the amount would be for a school providing less than a year's notice, a source said. To leave the Atlantic 10 Conference, where the Owls’ Olympic sports compete, would cost Temple $2 million with less than a year's notice, a source said.

Temple was one of the Big East’s original eight football members in 1991, but was expelled from the league after the 2004 season for not being competitive and not meeting certain financial requirements. However, the Owls’ program has been resurrected under the direction of Al Golden and Steve Addazio, posting a 26-12 record the last three seasons.

Golden, who left for Miami after the 2010 season, guided the Owls to their first bowl in 30 years. Addazio completed his first year with a 37-15 victory against Wyoming in the New Mexico Bowl in December, only the second bowl victory in school history.

The addition of Temple will be the latest change for the Big East, which also added Memphis two weeks ago.

With Temple being added, the Big East’s membership is expected to have eight football members and 16 basketball members in 2012. In 2013, the football membership will grow to 14 with the addition of Boise State, SMU, UCF, Houston, Memphis and San Diego State. However, if Pittsburgh and Syracuse are allowed to leave a year early to the ACC, the league would have 12 football members.

In 2014, the football membership will be 12 (after Pittsburgh and Syracuse leave) but it will grow to 13 in 2015 with the addition of Navy.

Sources told, the reason the Big East decided to go beyond 12 football members is because the league is preparing for the possibility it will lose Louisville if the Big 12 decides to expand by at least another team.

Multiple sources have told that Louisville is the consensus choice for the Big 12’s 11th member, if the league expands, and that the Cardinals would accept an invitation to the Big 12.

Big 12 acting commissioner Chuck Neinas said Wednesday his league has no expansion meetings scheduled and is concentrating on the additions of West Virginia and TCU.

Two weeks ago when the Big East added Memphis, Marinatto said the league had reached its “primary objective” of securing a 12-team football league when Navy joins in 2015. However he opened the door to further expansion.

“We’re always going to be vigilant and we’re going to continue to do whatever is in the best interest of the conference,” Marinatto said. “You never say never (about future expansion), I guess. But we’ve reached our goal and we’re pleased that we’ve done that. But we’re always going to be obviously continuing to evaluate different opportunities as time goes on."


Since: Feb 28, 2008
Posted on: February 23, 2012 11:03 am

Temple likely headed to Big East in 2012

I believe that the Big East figures that Louisville will probably leave for the Big 12, but I don't see Cinncinnati going to the Big 12.  The Big 12 would probably first look at Notre Dame and BYU to jon with Cinncinnati.  The ACC and SEC will probably stand pat at 14 teams, none of the Big East teams seem like a good fit unless the ACC adds UConn and Rutgers and gets up to 16.  If the Big East does lost more than just Louisville I would think they would look at other "Big Country" teams like Marshall, ECU, Souther Miss, Tulsa or UTEP.  Clearly no team is too far for the Big East.

Since: Dec 15, 2008
Posted on: February 23, 2012 10:53 am

Temple likely headed to Big East in 2012

So happy as a Temple alum!  The basketball team will take a back seat to no one and will get better for being in the big east. As a football season ticket holder I am so pumped that in 2 years with a big east conference schedule the Owls will have Penn State & Notre Dame on their schedule. Good times on North Broad.  GO OWLS!

Since: Jan 19, 2008
Posted on: February 23, 2012 10:46 am

Temple likely headed to Big East in 2012

If ND chooses the Big Ten, there's Rutgers ticket. ND goes to the ACC? That still might be Rutgers ticket or perhaps UConn. ND goes to the Big 12? Louisville comes along for the ride and you can slam the door shut on BYU.
I think your analysis is correct. However, the Big 12 would be able to add Louisville and carry 11 members indefinitely. (Just look at the recent history of the Big 10.) I think the play is to add Louisville sooner, rather than later, then keep the 12th spot open until Notre Dame's future is clearer. They can always go after Cincinnati as a 12th team if needed, but there's no rush.

Since: Mar 23, 2007
Posted on: February 23, 2012 10:14 am

Temple likely headed to Big East in 2012

"...but considering the SBC has actually been stronger than the MAC in recent years..."

I also couldn't let this go without comment.  The SBC has not been stronger than the MAC.  In fact, it has been clearly weaker. 

Since: May 23, 2007
Posted on: February 23, 2012 9:50 am

Temple likely headed to Big East in 2012

As an alumni, I have never been thrilled about Temple's insistence pursuit of big-time college football.  Frankly, I wished they were joining the Colonial league instead of the Big East. 

Since: Jul 9, 2010
Posted on: February 23, 2012 9:46 am

Temple likely headed to Big East in 2012

NOTRE DAME for whatever reason is ONE of the STRAWS that has broken the camels back in the BIG EAST CONFERENCE.  HAD NOTRE DAME been ALL-IN in the BIG EAST Conference with everything including FOOTBALL, the BIG EAST Conference would not be having membership problems for the last eight years, period.

Since: Oct 28, 2010
Posted on: February 23, 2012 9:17 am

Temple likely headed to Big East in 2012

So if Syracuse and Pitt stay for the 2013 season, there will be 21 basketball schools in the Big East????  Even after they leave, there will be 19.  That's the clearest sign that they expect someone else to leave rather quickly.

Since: Sep 2, 2011
Posted on: February 23, 2012 5:55 am

Temple likely headed to Big East in 2012

Notre Dame for lack of a better phrase is the straw that stirs the drink. If they ever do decide to join a conference the circus comes back into town. The beauty of Notre Dame is they're private so for all we know they could be talking to everyone right now or may have even turned down an invitation or two. That's why Syracuse and Pitt stunned everyone. Unlike the public schools which have to go through a series of motions that everyone can see, the privates can simply act on their own. If people stay quiet then it's a shocker but with a fish as big as Notre Dame, it's hard to believe people would stay quiet.

If ND chooses the Big Ten, there's Rutgers ticket. ND goes to the ACC? That still might be Rutgers ticket or perhaps UConn. ND goes to the Big 12? Louisville comes along for the ride and you can slam the door shut on BYU.

Since: Dec 2, 2007
Posted on: February 23, 2012 5:11 am

Temple likely headed to Big East in 2012

If the Big 12 wants a title game fine thats the only way they'll add Louisville and Cincinnati other then that those two schools dont make the BIG 12 that much better, don't really add much of anything to the conference besides another mouth to feed. 

The big fish in the sea is Notre Dame, Big 12, ACC, Big Ten all want them in so everyone is holding open a spot, no one's going to expand until the day Notre Dame is forced to jump in. Then we all ready know the teams coming with Notre Dame, Louisville to the Big 12, Conn to the ACC, Rutgers to the Big Ten.

Thus when Notre Dame joins and takes whatever team along with them to that conference, then the two conferences that lost out on Notre Dame might look to expand, ie the Louisville and Cincinnati to the Big 12, Conn and Rutgers to the ACC, Big Ten is one thats the hardest to guess if they lost out on Notre Dame i could see them standing pat then again not

Since: Sep 2, 2011
Posted on: February 23, 2012 4:29 am

Temple likely headed to Big East in 2012

Adding Temple is basically conceding that this conference is going to lose at least one more team and perhaps as many as four. No knock on Temple, we know they have a great basketball tradition and their football team has finally come into existance but the Big East knows it is going to get looted. The Big 12 will eventually got to 12 and perhaps even 14 which means it will target Louisville and perhaps Cincinnati. UConn may finally get its ACC wish granted and Rutgers will go some where based on location (NYC market) and academics (AAU school).

Villanova is going to have to make the jump to D1/FBS football at some point because quite frankly, the Big East is running out of schools to take. East Carolina is just about the only one left on the menu at this point. UMass hasn't even started playing FBS yet although it will be joining the MAC at some point. Marshall? Tulane? Southern Miss? The list isn't looking good.

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