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Temple likely headed to Big East in 2012

Posted on: February 22, 2012 1:23 pm
Edited on: February 22, 2012 5:46 pm
DALLAS – Temple is close to joining the Big East as an all-sports member in 2012, college football industry sources told Wednesday morning.

The addition of Temple is imperative for the Big East, which desperately needs a school to replace West Virginia this fall after the Mountaineers reached a $20 million agreement with the league to leave for the Big 12.

One source told that Temple to the Big East in 2012 "is done."

An announcement could be made as early as next week, sources told

MAC commissioner Jon Steinbrecher, attending the BCS meetings at the Dallas-Fort Worth Airport Grand Hyatt Hotel, told that discussions are ongoing between Temple and the Big East.

"I don't know where those will lead," Steinbrecher said.

Big East commissioner John Marinatto, also at the BCS meetings, declined comment Wednesday.

The Big East initially wanted Boise State, which will join in 2013, to join this fall as West Virginia’s replacement. However, the Big East was not willing to provide the Broncos with about $10 million they needed to leave the Mountain West in football and have their Olympic sports join the WAC a year early.

Boise State president Bob Kustra confirmed Wednesday afternoon that the Broncos would remain in the Mountain West in the 2012-13 season.

"While we have had several discussions with the Big East and the WAC in moving our sports into those two leagues a year earlier than previously stated, the University feels there were too many obstacles to overcome to make the move at this time," Kustra said in a statement. "While there certainly would have been advantages in making the move a year early, it became clear that it would not be fiscally responsible, as all of the expenses associated with early entry into the two conferences would not be covered."

Boise State would have had to pay the Mountain West between $8 million and $9 million and also pay the WAC $1.5 million.

With Boise State out of the picture, the Big East then turned its attention to Temple. The Mid-American Conference's exit fee is $2.5 million with two years notice, but it's unknown what the amount would be for a school providing less than a year's notice, a source said. To leave the Atlantic 10 Conference, where the Owls’ Olympic sports compete, would cost Temple $2 million with less than a year's notice, a source said.

Temple was one of the Big East’s original eight football members in 1991, but was expelled from the league after the 2004 season for not being competitive and not meeting certain financial requirements. However, the Owls’ program has been resurrected under the direction of Al Golden and Steve Addazio, posting a 26-12 record the last three seasons.

Golden, who left for Miami after the 2010 season, guided the Owls to their first bowl in 30 years. Addazio completed his first year with a 37-15 victory against Wyoming in the New Mexico Bowl in December, only the second bowl victory in school history.

The addition of Temple will be the latest change for the Big East, which also added Memphis two weeks ago.

With Temple being added, the Big East’s membership is expected to have eight football members and 16 basketball members in 2012. In 2013, the football membership will grow to 14 with the addition of Boise State, SMU, UCF, Houston, Memphis and San Diego State. However, if Pittsburgh and Syracuse are allowed to leave a year early to the ACC, the league would have 12 football members.

In 2014, the football membership will be 12 (after Pittsburgh and Syracuse leave) but it will grow to 13 in 2015 with the addition of Navy.

Sources told, the reason the Big East decided to go beyond 12 football members is because the league is preparing for the possibility it will lose Louisville if the Big 12 decides to expand by at least another team.

Multiple sources have told that Louisville is the consensus choice for the Big 12’s 11th member, if the league expands, and that the Cardinals would accept an invitation to the Big 12.

Big 12 acting commissioner Chuck Neinas said Wednesday his league has no expansion meetings scheduled and is concentrating on the additions of West Virginia and TCU.

Two weeks ago when the Big East added Memphis, Marinatto said the league had reached its “primary objective” of securing a 12-team football league when Navy joins in 2015. However he opened the door to further expansion.

“We’re always going to be vigilant and we’re going to continue to do whatever is in the best interest of the conference,” Marinatto said. “You never say never (about future expansion), I guess. But we’ve reached our goal and we’re pleased that we’ve done that. But we’re always going to be obviously continuing to evaluate different opportunities as time goes on."


Since: Oct 17, 2007
Posted on: February 22, 2012 6:37 pm

Temple likely headed to Big East in 2012

great day for temple. never shoulda gotten shafted back in in the early 2000's. this move tells you that louisville is as good as gone. hope the owls continue to grow the program.

Since: Nov 19, 2006
Posted on: February 22, 2012 6:28 pm

Temple likely headed to Big East in 2012

So the Big East grabs Temple, an obvious choice to beging with, but only grabs them because they were desperate to save their Conference's AQ status and have 8 teams play football this season.  But now what?  They will have 8 teams in 2012.  In 2013, they will probably lose Syracuse and Pitt,  but gain Memphis, Houston, SMU, UCF, Boise State, San Diego State.  The perfect 12 team conference, for two years, because Navy will be joining the Conference in 2015.  Now they have 13 teams, so they must find yet another team.  While all of this is happening, the Big East fails to realize that by doing all of this, they are actually making it easier for the Big 12 to grab Louisville and Cincinnati because the Big East is guaranteed at least 8 teams.  The Big 12 can harldy allow themselves to be the ONLY BCS Conference WITHOUT a Conference Championship game, and that is exactly what would happen in 2013 if the Big East has 12 teams.  The ACC, Big East, Big 10, Pac 12, and SEC all have 12 teams or more.  the big 12 would only have 10. The Big East may have just forced the Big 12's hand.

Since: Aug 18, 2006
Posted on: February 22, 2012 6:22 pm

Temple likely headed to Big East in 2012

So... the Big East wouldn't pay the $10 for Boise St. to join to take West Virginia's place for 2012?  Really!!!  And, yet, this is the same Big East Conference who sued WVU for leaving early because they said it would be almost impossible to replace them for 2012 - made them settle on paying the conference $20 million - and then can't pay 1/2 of that to allow a quality institution like Boise State to join for 2012 to replace them?  No wonder WVU, Syracuse, Pittsburgh, Louisville, and any other institution that's any kind of smart is looking to bolt this sinking ship of a conference!  Good luck Marinatto with your Big Least Conference - you're going to need it.

Since: Apr 4, 2007
Posted on: February 22, 2012 6:00 pm

Temple likely headed to Big East in 2012

Uh, no. And I'm from one of the other 3, PA. It's my opinion that PA HS football has fallen substantially in the last 15 -20 years. The PIAA is antiquated and doesnt allow year round conditioning or formal team workouts. There are other issues such as having a relatively older population for a state it's size, but mostly it's the outdated PIAA rules in my opinion. And the fact that  the Philadelphia Public league with it's large number of black athletes dont play particularly good football

Since: Feb 22, 2012
Posted on: February 22, 2012 5:26 pm

Temple likely headed to Big East in 2012

Really?  The basketball schools are the tail wagging the dog?  The whole reason for the Big East being in the position that it's in, is because of football, not basketball.  That's not opinion, that's fact.

Since: Aug 26, 2011
Posted on: February 22, 2012 4:39 pm

Temple likely headed to Big East in 2012

This is hilarious. They weren't good enough back in '04 when they were kicked out and now the Big East goes crawling back to them.... The Big East is truely Conference USA 2.0 now

Since: Mar 20, 2008
Posted on: February 22, 2012 4:25 pm

Temple likely headed to Big East in 2012

@vmi - more likely that Boise only plays good football and is a liability in every other sport (generally speaking).

Ridiculous that Boise State wouldn't get the Big 12 invite before Louisville...all you haters,  THIS  is why Boise State can't get a tougher schedule!!!!  The big boys are scared to invite them!

Since: Apr 19, 2008
Posted on: February 22, 2012 4:12 pm
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Since: Feb 22, 2012
Posted on: February 22, 2012 4:09 pm

Temple likely headed to Big East in 2012

Temple not  atop 3 team. Also behind UC, USF & possibly Rutgers & UConn

Since: Jan 22, 2012
Posted on: February 22, 2012 4:01 pm

Temple likely headed to Big East in 2012

Rediculous that Boise State wouldn't get the Big 12 invite before Louisville...all you haters,  THIS  is why Boise State can't get a tougher schedule!!!!  The big boys are scared to invite them!
It's the landscape of college football.  Market value matters.  West Virginia, Louisville and even Cincinnati have larger markets than Boise.  Boise is also further from the Big XII schhols than any of three I mentioned.  (And yes, they're not exactly close either.)     Thankfully, Boise got the invite to the Big East. The Big East needed a program the quality of Boise.

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