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Temple likely headed to Big East in 2012

Posted on: February 22, 2012 1:23 pm
Edited on: February 22, 2012 5:46 pm
 
DALLAS – Temple is close to joining the Big East as an all-sports member in 2012, college football industry sources told CBSSports.com Wednesday morning.

The addition of Temple is imperative for the Big East, which desperately needs a school to replace West Virginia this fall after the Mountaineers reached a $20 million agreement with the league to leave for the Big 12.

One source told CBSSports.com that Temple to the Big East in 2012 "is done."

An announcement could be made as early as next week, sources told CBSSports.com.

MAC commissioner Jon Steinbrecher, attending the BCS meetings at the Dallas-Fort Worth Airport Grand Hyatt Hotel, told CBSSports.com that discussions are ongoing between Temple and the Big East.

"I don't know where those will lead," Steinbrecher said.

Big East commissioner John Marinatto, also at the BCS meetings, declined comment Wednesday.

The Big East initially wanted Boise State, which will join in 2013, to join this fall as West Virginia’s replacement. However, the Big East was not willing to provide the Broncos with about $10 million they needed to leave the Mountain West in football and have their Olympic sports join the WAC a year early.

Boise State president Bob Kustra confirmed Wednesday afternoon that the Broncos would remain in the Mountain West in the 2012-13 season.

"While we have had several discussions with the Big East and the WAC in moving our sports into those two leagues a year earlier than previously stated, the University feels there were too many obstacles to overcome to make the move at this time," Kustra said in a statement. "While there certainly would have been advantages in making the move a year early, it became clear that it would not be fiscally responsible, as all of the expenses associated with early entry into the two conferences would not be covered."

Boise State would have had to pay the Mountain West between $8 million and $9 million and also pay the WAC $1.5 million.

With Boise State out of the picture, the Big East then turned its attention to Temple. The Mid-American Conference's exit fee is $2.5 million with two years notice, but it's unknown what the amount would be for a school providing less than a year's notice, a source said. To leave the Atlantic 10 Conference, where the Owls’ Olympic sports compete, would cost Temple $2 million with less than a year's notice, a source said.

Temple was one of the Big East’s original eight football members in 1991, but was expelled from the league after the 2004 season for not being competitive and not meeting certain financial requirements. However, the Owls’ program has been resurrected under the direction of Al Golden and Steve Addazio, posting a 26-12 record the last three seasons.

Golden, who left for Miami after the 2010 season, guided the Owls to their first bowl in 30 years. Addazio completed his first year with a 37-15 victory against Wyoming in the New Mexico Bowl in December, only the second bowl victory in school history.

The addition of Temple will be the latest change for the Big East, which also added Memphis two weeks ago.

With Temple being added, the Big East’s membership is expected to have eight football members and 16 basketball members in 2012. In 2013, the football membership will grow to 14 with the addition of Boise State, SMU, UCF, Houston, Memphis and San Diego State. However, if Pittsburgh and Syracuse are allowed to leave a year early to the ACC, the league would have 12 football members.

In 2014, the football membership will be 12 (after Pittsburgh and Syracuse leave) but it will grow to 13 in 2015 with the addition of Navy.

Sources told CBSSports.com, the reason the Big East decided to go beyond 12 football members is because the league is preparing for the possibility it will lose Louisville if the Big 12 decides to expand by at least another team.

Multiple sources have told CBSSports.com that Louisville is the consensus choice for the Big 12’s 11th member, if the league expands, and that the Cardinals would accept an invitation to the Big 12.

Big 12 acting commissioner Chuck Neinas said Wednesday his league has no expansion meetings scheduled and is concentrating on the additions of West Virginia and TCU.

Two weeks ago when the Big East added Memphis, Marinatto said the league had reached its “primary objective” of securing a 12-team football league when Navy joins in 2015. However he opened the door to further expansion.

“We’re always going to be vigilant and we’re going to continue to do whatever is in the best interest of the conference,” Marinatto said. “You never say never (about future expansion), I guess. But we’ve reached our goal and we’re pleased that we’ve done that. But we’re always going to be obviously continuing to evaluate different opportunities as time goes on."

Comments

Since: Jan 22, 2012
Posted on: February 22, 2012 3:41 pm
 

Temple likely headed to Big East in 2012

Want to talk stupid moves?  I don't understand adding SMU.  Adds nothing for basketball, and not really a great football team either.  What's the point?
That's easy. It's a western team to help pull Boise in.  It also brings a natural rival for Houston.  And with 2 texas teams you're bound to help expand recruiting in what is the largest recruiting base in the country.



Since: Dec 5, 2011
Posted on: February 22, 2012 3:40 pm
 

Temple likely headed to Big East in 2012

Let me see if I've got this right. The Big East going to re-add a program they've previously had to kick out because that program had such a great tradition--of sustained futility. OK, that makes sense.  About as much sense as the Big East automatic BCS bid. I know, people will point to Temple's recent success and the Big East's BCS bowl wins...but really, how excited can teams, fan bases, or television audiences be about the prospect of playing or watching a Big East champion, say Temple, in a major bowl game?? Although Boise State is a good add for the Big East, just wait and see how appealing that major bowl game match up is when Boise DOESN'T win the championship. That'll happen. The Big East has some solid programs. Unfortunately most of those programs are in the Big East because they're not good enough for whatever reason to be in a "better" conferences...just keeping it real. 



 



Since: Sep 5, 2011
Posted on: February 22, 2012 3:38 pm
 

Temple likely headed to Big East in 2012

We’re always going to be vigilant and we’re going to continue to do whatever is in the best interest of the conference,” Marinatto said. “You never say never (about future expansion), I guess. But we’ve reached our goal and we’re pleased that we’ve done that. But we’re always going to be obviously continuing to evaluate different opportunities as time goes on."


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Since: Jan 22, 2012
Posted on: February 22, 2012 3:38 pm
 

Temple likely headed to Big East in 2012

Said by Slasher:
When is Heinz field not a ghost town when Pitt plays?!?!?!
When they play WVU, or Notre Dame.  Although great seats can be had for $1 to all others.



Since: Sep 6, 2006
Posted on: February 22, 2012 3:36 pm
 

Temple likely headed to Big East in 2012

When the formal announcement finally comes, it will be about time!!!  My Owls have rebuilt their program over the last several seasons, starting with the Al Golden hiring, and looks like it will continue with Addazio.  I loved it whenever they played Connecticutt (the team that replaced them in the Big East) and beat them.  I think the only win that UConn got was the one that the refs stole for them in 2007 (the same year the refs stole them one from Louisville).  I could be wrong about that being the only loss, but I know Temple won the first meeting (their final year in the Big East, after it was announced that they were being booted, and they won last season.  I look forward to them continuing their growth, and hopefully success, in the Big East, though not a bigtime football conference, nonetheless, a stronger conference than the MAC.  I appreciate the MAC giving us a home when we had none, but I never could get overly excited about playing Miami of Ohio or Ohio University or Western Michigan, due to geographical limitations in the "rivalry".  Though the Big East is no longer just in the East, there are bigger names and some closer rivals than at the MAC.  My only regret is no Pitt.  I used to love it when Pitt came into Philly every other year.  For some reason, that was a fun rivalry for me.



Since: Jan 22, 2012
Posted on: February 22, 2012 3:32 pm
 

Temple likely headed to Big East in 2012

Really? Hmm, Temple makes every one of the top 25 lists for BBall. Villanova doesn't even rank.  So even though they might be in the same media market it definitely adds more than a football team.  
This is the worst Nova team in a decade too.  They're typically a top 10 team. So please don't try to say Temple has a better hoops program.



Since: Feb 14, 2008
Posted on: February 22, 2012 3:28 pm
 

Temple likely headed to Big East in 2012

This move makes no sense geographically.  Adding a school from the East Coast that is within driving distance of other  Big East schools is strange and very unusual. 



Since: Jan 16, 2010
Posted on: February 22, 2012 3:27 pm
 

Temple likely headed to Big East in 2012

Lets see in 2010 Temple drew 20,500, SMU 21,000, Memphis 16,000, Houston 31,000, UCF 34,000. You can say Big Market locations all you want but who in the world is home watching when most schools in the Big East play before empty chairs? Based on the market size argument shouldnt the local community colleges in New York and California band together and form their own football league then expect a huge TV contract as a result? At some point it might benefit a conference to add programs that are not outdrawn at the gate by their own basketball team or could do better than their 5-32 record on the football field. 



Since: Dec 10, 2007
Posted on: February 22, 2012 3:19 pm
 

Temple likely headed to Big East in 2012

I don't think it's a bad move.  Big East is a basketball conference.  They take a major hit with losing Syracuse, Pitt and WVU. Taking teams that are "slightly" better than Temple in football with a few more fans isn't the answer.  Temple is competitive in basketball. So is Memphis.   UCF is also improving.  Personally, I think the BE should go after Xavier or Dayton too for basketball.

Want to talk stupid moves?  I don't understand adding SMU.  Adds nothing for basketball, and not really a great football team either.  What's the point? 



Since: Sep 19, 2011
Posted on: February 22, 2012 3:19 pm
 

Temple likely headed to Big East in 2012

Word on the street is that Vassar is joining in 2015 in all sports and Skidmore in 2016 but only in field hockey.


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