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Big East adds Temple as an all sports member

Posted on: March 7, 2012 10:38 am
Edited on: March 7, 2012 7:23 pm
 

Temple’s football program is returning to the Big East this fall, sources told CBSSports.com.

The Big East’s presidents voted Wednesday morning to add the Owls as all-sports members, but only Temple’s football program will join in 2012. The Owls’ Olympic sports won’t join the Big East until a year later for the 2013-14 school year.

The Big East officially announced Temple's move in a Wednesday press conference.

A source told CBSSports.com that the Big East will pay for the Owls' $7 million in exit fees. Temple must pay the Mid-American Conference $6 million and the Atlantic 10 $1 million.

Temple was an original member of the Big East’s football conference from 1991-2004 until it was dismissed from the league for not being competitive and unable to meet certain financial requirements.

The Big East already had received a commitment from Temple that the Owls would join the Big East in football in 2012, sources told CBSSports.com last week. But the Big East had its presidents formally rubberstamp it in Wednesday’s meeting in New York.

After Temple’s dismissal from the Big East, the Owls were an independent for two seasons before joining the Mid-American Conference in 2007. Temple will pay the MAC $6 million to leave with less than one year's notice. The Philadelphia Inquirer first reported that amount, which is more than double what MAC by-laws require teams to pay ($2.5 million) with two year’s notice.

Temple also must pay the Atlantic 10, where its Olympic sports compete, $1 million to leave after next season. It would have cost $2 million to leave before this season.

The addition of Temple was crucial for the Big East which needed an eighth football program to replace West Virginia, which joins the Big 12 this summer. Without West Virginia, the Big East’s teams would have had only six conference games each. With Temple, each Big East team will have seven league games – as it has since 2005.

If the Owls take West Virginia’s place on the Big East schedule, the Owls will have Big East home games against Syracuse, Rutgers, Cincinnati and South Florida and league road games at UConn, Pittsburgh and Louisville. The Big East's football schedule should be released in the coming days.

The Big East initially wanted Boise State, which will join the league in 2013, to join the Big East in 2012. However, the Broncos could not afford to pay the approximate $10 million in exit fees to leave the Mountain West and WAC early and the Big East was not willing to pay for the Broncos’ early move, sources told CBSSports.com.

The addition of Temple, which shares its home stadium at Lincoln Financial Field with the Philadelphia Eagles, gives the Big East three teams that play their home games in an NFL stadium. The others are Pittsburgh/Pittsburgh Steelers and South Florida/Tampa Bay Bucs.

With Temple on board in 2012, the Big East’s football membership this fall will consist of Cincinnati, UConn, Louisville, Pittsburgh, Rutgers, South Florida, Syracuse and Temple. The 15-team basketball membership in 2012-13 will consist of: Cincinnati, UConn, Louisville, Pittsburgh, Rutgers, South Florida, Syracuse, DePaul, Georgetown, Marquette, Notre Dame, Providence, Seton Hall, St. John’s and Villanova.

The reason Temple's Olympic sports didn't join the Big East until 2013 was for logistical reasons.

"We're using the current year as a transition year in order to analyze what we can by hiring a consultant to explore how we can best exploit the marketplace moving forward," Big East commissioner John Marinatto said. "And as I said earlier, to retain each school's individual identity, a brand that Villanova has worked on for over three decades with the Big East and how to incorporate and associate that with Temple.

"So for the next 12 months, what we're going to do is with the two institutions, the conference's initiative, explore how we best move forward in order to ensure that we accomplish that because it's in the best interest of the conference obviously for the two schools to coexist in a very, very positive way, and one of the things we want to do is ensure that's the case by doing this."

The league will look much different in the 2013-14 school year. The football league could consist of up to 14 schools: Boise State, Cincinnati, UConn, Houston, Louisville, Memphis, Pittsburgh, Rutgers, San Diego State, SMU, South Florida, Syracuse, Temple and UCF. However, Pittsburgh and Syracuse, who are scheduled to leave for the ACC in 2014, want to exit the Big East in 2013. If they do leave early, it would drop the football membership to 12 schools.

If Pittsburgh and Syracuse remain in the Big East until 2014, the Big East's basketball league in 2013-14 would consist of 20 teams: Cincinnati, UConn, Houston, Louisville, Memphis, Pittsburgh, Rutgers, South Florida, SMU, Syracuse, Temple, UCF, DePaul, Georgetown, Marquette, Notre Dame, Providence, Seton Hall, St. John’s and Villanova. That number would be reduced to 18 basketball members if Pittsburgh and Syracuse left early.

Also, Navy will join the Big East as a football-only member in 2015.



Comments

Since: Mar 7, 2012
Posted on: March 7, 2012 10:05 pm
 

Big East adds Temple as an all sports member

As a Temple Alumni - "Confrence" is correctly spelled as "CONFERENCE".   As for your rude post, I look forward to the day when Temple plays Uni of Miami and beats the crap out of them.  Yes, I'll remember your rude post as I celebrate.



Since: Sep 5, 2011
Posted on: March 7, 2012 9:55 pm
 

Big East adds Temple as an all sports member

Correction: it not the non-AQ conferences that get money from the BCS.  Its the FCS conferences.


A maximum of $2,025,000 was placed on the total payments made to Football Championship Subdivision Conferences each year, with no conference to receive more than $225,000.




Since: Sep 5, 2011
Posted on: March 7, 2012 9:52 pm
 

Big East adds Temple as an all sports member

Response to: Undertow59

Agree with you about Notre Dame.

If you check the history of the BCS (at ) you will see things like this from 2005:
      

      
;     It was also agreed that Notre Dame would receive an annual fee of $1.3 million from the BCS in the years when its team 
      
;     does not participate in one of the (BCS) games, and $4.5 million when its team does participate.



This means, Notre Dame gets paid $ 1.3 M - just for letting the BCS consider their team as a potential player in BCS games.

      
;   Army and Navy were each allocated a participation fee of $100,000 for making themselves available to participate in a  
      
;      BCS bowl game if selected effective for the 2006 regular season, in recognition of the investment the academies continue

      
;      to make in their football programs, the programs' historical significance and the unique contribution the institutions make

      
;      to higher education
.

While giving money to the service academies is probably a pure political move, the strange thing is they left out Air Force.

The BCS also provide something like $2.5 M per year which is divided among the smaller conferences - (11 of them?).  Could this be thought of as "money to be quiet"? 



While at one time, Notre Dame was a national football power they have not been relevant since they beat West Virginia  (in 1989?) for the national title.


Also the BCS treats Notre Dame at the same level as a conference. 
For them to be treated as if they were equal to a SEC, Big 1G, Pac-12, Big 12, is just plain stupid as he**.

Notre Dame, for all its history, CANNOT BE EQUAL to the TOTAL of LSU, Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, Auburn, etc. 


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Since: Mar 7, 2012
Posted on: March 7, 2012 9:27 pm
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Since: Oct 17, 2007
Posted on: March 7, 2012 8:57 pm
 

Big East adds Temple as an all sports member

no comparison between the late nineties Temple program and what it is today. Newer football facilities, an improved area srrounding campus, and a bigger on-campus student body combined with the stadium comlplex in South Philly being a much more vibrant place to be than in was a decade ago make it light years ahead of where they were when they got the boot. The big east moveback is going to be the best thing that ever happened to the athletic program.




Since: Oct 14, 2011
Posted on: March 7, 2012 8:30 pm
 

Big East adds Temple as an all sports member

You're confusing relevance with success on the field.  Regardless of how mediocre they've been on the field, they remain extremely relevant because they are, by far, the most popular football team in the country.  And while the TV money for SEC teams and Big Ten teams is similar to Notre Dame TV money, when a Big Ten team goes to a BCS bowl, they split the money with 11 other teams.  Notre Dame keeps 100% each time they go to a BCS bowl.  Assuming the Big Ten gets two BCS Bowls a year, ND need only get into a BCS bowl once every 6 years for independence to pay off.  Independence also protects the ND brand by preventing it from becoming overshadowed by the conference name.  I'm no ND fan but, for now, I can see why independence remains beneficial. 



Since: Jan 16, 2010
Posted on: March 7, 2012 8:19 pm
 

Big East adds Temple as an all sports member

Reds 5 fan

If you think Temple didnt draw wait til you see Memphis nobody goes other than families or those from Gitmo who they choose not to waterboard.




Since: Jan 25, 2012
Posted on: March 7, 2012 8:03 pm
 

Big East adds Temple as an all sports member

There is nothing more important to Notre Dame than their football independence.
I wish someone could explain to me why. And please try and be rational and objective----don't bother me with your pretentious arrogance. Notre Dame football hasn't been relevant for two decades. Their TV contract with NBC is half what Indiana and Purdue get for the Big Ten Network.

And with the product Notre Dame is putting out on the field, I can't see anybody clamoring to pony up big money on mediocrity. They hold themselves as the 800 pound gorilla of college football, but that reputation
is undeserved as ind
icated by their lack of achievement in the past 20 years.  



Since: Apr 23, 2007
Posted on: March 7, 2012 7:25 pm
 

Big East adds Temple as an all sports member

If the Big East takes ND out of their bowl tie-ins as people are proposing, ND has no incentive to stay affiliated with the Big East in any sports and you probably lose them in all sports.  Then they're forced to join the Big Ten or the SEC

There is nothing more important to Notre Dame than their football independence. If the Big East booted them, they would take their Olympic sports to the A-10 because football reigns absolutely supreme there and the other sports are just afterthoughts.


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