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Big East "open" to Pitt, Syracuse leaving early

Posted on: March 7, 2012 7:35 pm
Edited on: March 7, 2012 7:40 pm
The Big East will consider allowing Pittsburgh and Syracuse to leave the league for the ACC a year early in 2013, Big East commissioner John Marinatto said Wednesday.

College football industry sources told that "there is no doubt" Pittsburgh and Syracuse will be in the ACC in 2013. It's just a question of what type of additional compensation the Big East would require from each school.

Marinatto’s stance is a complete reversal from the league's viewpoint since Pittsburgh and Syracuse announced in September they were leaving the Big East for the ACC. He has stressed continually both schools would have to remain until July 1, 2014 because "the by-laws are the by-laws are the by-laws" when explaining why both schools should remain in the Big East for the full 27 months.

When Pittsburgh and Syracuse gave their notice they were leaving the league, the Big East's exit agreement required a $5 million buyout and 27 months notice. West Virginia was allowed to leave for the Big 12 with less than a year's notice by reaching a $20 million settlement with the Big East.

“Our membership, given the speed and success of our expansion initiatives, I think it’s open to having the discussions with both Pittsburgh and Syracuse about them having an early departure,” Marinatto said. “So we haven't actually had those conversations yet, but our membership is certainly willing to do that at this point given where we've landed.”

The reason the Big East is more receptive to letting them out in 2013, instead of 2014, is with the addition of Temple and its other recent additions, the Big East would have 20 basketball members in the 2013-14 school year if Pittsburgh and Syracuse remained in the league. Without Pittsburgh and Syracuse in 2013, the Big East still would have 18 basketball members.

ACC commissioner John Swofford told last month when the league announced what divisions Pittsburgh and Syracuse would compete in when they join, that the ACC was ready to add both schools as soon as they were able to leave the Big East – whether that’s in 2013 or 2014.

“The fact we made our decision how we will schedule and compete certainly helps us [when they join],” Swofford said last month. “In terms of when that time may come, I don’t want to get into a hypothetical of this or that. Our position continues to be that we want to prepare ourselves when they’re ready and it’s appropriate for them to join us.”

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Since: Oct 26, 2006
Posted on: May 13, 2012 7:33 pm

Big East "open" to Pitt, Syracuse leaving early


Remember this conversation from a couple of months ago?  Do you still feel as confident that the ACC is safe from raiding?  Haha! 

Since: Nov 23, 2011
Posted on: March 12, 2012 12:19 pm

Big East "open" to Pitt, Syracuse leaving early

Are you serious?   You wouldn't spend one year in Syracuse for a higher probability you would be a milllionaire?  By your logic  no NBA players want to go to Green Bay & no NFL players wants to go to NE either right?  & it's every NHL fans dream to play for the Florida Panthers over the Montreal Canadians, b/c the weather's better.  As long as Boehiem keeps getting players into lottery slots, they will flock to SU.  He was able to get Flynn drafted 17th.  You think college recruits don't see that one year at a high profile school, even if it is cold, will lead to them being a millionnaire.  It's call sacrifice. That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.  Comparing schools w/ 2 Heismans, 4 Final Four appearances, 3 championship games & 1 NCAA title in b'ball btwn them to UB.  Right.  That'll happen.

Since: Jul 9, 2010
Posted on: March 12, 2012 10:36 am

Big East "open" to Pitt, Syracuse leaving early

It would be huge for the BIG EAST, if PITT and 'CUSE were to pay $ 8 million each to leave for the ACC in 2013.  I personnally don't see these two schools paying much more than about $ 6 million each.  Both PITT and SYRACUSE have handled their exit from the BIG EAST with grace, and the BE has been able to rebuild their conference for 2013 with new schools.  All sides (BE, PITT, 'CUSE) understand that the 27 month rule is there to rebuild the conference, which the BIG EAST has done. It is now better for both the BE and ACC to get on with their new membership in 2013.

Since: Mar 27, 2007
Posted on: March 12, 2012 6:13 am

Big East "open" to Pitt, Syracuse leaving early

Letting Cuse and Pitt out a year early is the right thing to do.

Of course with this idiot Marinatto determined to fully fund Villanova's move up to FBS, I'd almost rather they got out for free, then see that 10+ million go towards Villanova.


Since: Sep 22, 2011
Posted on: March 11, 2012 10:50 pm

Big East "open" to Pitt, Syracuse leaving early

As long as all the other teams join as promised in 2013, I say let them go for an increased fee (ie $15 mil as the current exit fee is $10 mil).  This way all parties get what they want and the Big East, Pitt, Syracuse and the ACC can get on with their lives.  I concur that the lame duck season that both Pitt and Syracuse would play in 2013 isn't worth the hassle for anyone. 

Since: Oct 3, 2006
Posted on: March 11, 2012 9:26 am

Big East "open" to Pitt, Syracuse leaving early

two ships passing in the night

Since: Oct 26, 2006
Posted on: March 11, 2012 9:09 am

Big East "open" to Pitt, Syracuse leaving early

bbwvfan .......... The subject we are talking about is: Big East "open" to Pitt, Syracuse leaving early !! 
Buford, the subject I am talking to you about is the raid on the ACC that is soon to occur.  Maybe as soon as this summer!!

bbwvfan, I would think by this summer you would be busy and have enough work to do with a travel agent, for all your trips out west for football and basketball next year.  

My plan is to sit back and watch the conference expansion talks kick into high gear, and be relaxed in knowing my team's new conference is secure... while that of the ACC... is not.

The ACC will become the new BE.  Buford... what do they say about karma?

Since: Sep 22, 2009
Posted on: March 10, 2012 7:11 pm

Big East "open" to Pitt, Syracuse leaving early

The Big East should not hold out for additional money to get Pittsburgh and Syracuse out. The Big East needs to remove themselves from each university so that the Big East can begin to brand itself and position itself for contract negotiations. If you are negotiating on the ESPN and other Cable TV Networks, the offer is going to be much lower when there is uncertainty in the league.

The Big East is best served by getting teams that are not going to be a part of the league, out. By doing this, the executives of the respective media outlets will be able to accurately assess the value of a contract. Right now, they can't and Marinatto should be smart enough to figure that out. Noone spends hundreds of millions on uncertainty. The media will be buying a vision which is extremely dangerous.

Kick those programs out now and get the new ones in right away. That allows a solid year or so before negotiations are finalized. With some luck, the new teams will be competitive and perhaps some rivalries begin to develop that pique the interests of television. Alternatively, it will be devastating to negotiations and to the future of the Big East, should Pitt rebound in basketball and the Big East BBall final next year is Pitt and Syracuse. Couple that with ND possibly leaving and the Big East will go the way of the MAC.

Additionally, in Football, if Pitt and Temple play a great game in 2012. The Big East can't sell that as a future game of interest for the battle of PA. The BE needs to go in a different direction immediately and quit playing games. Quick query, how much did the Big East waste on the WVU litigation as well as all the spending on collateral damage with emergency meetings? Greed kills. The Big East is trying to be greedy, when they really only need to be smart business folks. Wake up Marinatto.

Finally, if I am Pitt or Syracuse, I use the next years to get out of the land of mediocrity at the BE expense. Pitt and Syracuse will be much stronger in two years. If they get kicked out now, the ACC does not get stronger, they become more mediocre. The BE can capitalize on that opportunity, but in typical Marinatto fashion, he thinks he knows, when in reality, the BE remains clueless on how to operate against big time competition. Get your brand out there first big John. 

Since: Jan 22, 2012
Posted on: March 10, 2012 2:30 pm

Big East "open" to Pitt, Syracuse leaving early

I'm just glad to see everyone abandoning the Big East.  It has been mismanaged from it's beginning as a football conference.  The Big XII is trying to set themselves up to add Notre Dame in 2015-2016 when ND's TV contract expires.  It was reported that ND is only making $21.1 mil on their TV contract and that with ratings down roughly 50% the new deal will be for significantly less.  If so, they may at least take a serious look at joining a conference.  I personally believe that ND goes to the B1G in 2016, along with Rutgers.

Since: Jul 9, 2010
Posted on: March 10, 2012 11:34 am

Big East "open" to Pitt, Syracuse leaving early

bbwvfan .......... The subject we are talking about is: Big East "open" to Pitt, Syracuse leaving early !!  With that statement; the current 12 ACC Universities welcome PITT and SYRACUSE into the Conference as soon as 2013.  bbwvfan, I would think by this summer you would be busy and have enough work to do with a travel agent, for all your trips out west for football and basketball next year.  Thank you, and have a super BIGXII year !  

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