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What's going on in Lawrence, Kansas???

Posted on: November 9, 2011 4:26 pm
Edited on: November 9, 2011 4:37 pm
By Jeff Goodman

There's no logical explanation.

Bill Self is regarded as one of the elite recruiters in the country and Kansas is obviously a program that is soaked in tradition.

Self is as likable as just about any coach in the nation and is a fixture on the recruiting trail - whether it's during the season or in the July recruiting period.

Kansas has just about everything to offer a kid - exposure, Phog Allen Fieldhouse and all the bells and whistles that many top-tier recruits yearn for nowadays.

So, why are the Jayhawks struggling mightily to land big-time players?

There is clearly playing time available in Lawrence these days, yet Self and his staff haven't been able to secure any of the big boys.

Sure, they got Perry Ellis.

But he's no program changer - and he's a local kid that may have gone there no matter who was in charge.

Oh yeah, they also got an unranked power forward named Zach Peters.

Kansas is hardly intimidating on paper this season and next year it could be even worse. Tyshawn Taylor will be gone - and Thomas Robinson could well explore the NBA route if has the season many (including me) expect.

The Jayhawks recently swung and missed on 7-footer Kaleb Tarczewski, their top target in the Class of 2012. Assistant coach Joe Dooley put in more work with the New Hampshire native than anyone else - but they lost out to Arizona.

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They've also struggled to secure a big-time guard - which is a necessity with the departure of Taylor. Marcus Smart went with Oklahoma State in a package deal with Phil Forte and J-Mychal Reese also paired up, with his father to Texas A&M. Kansas missed on Danuel House, who is headed to Houston, and Ioannis Papapetrou went with Texas over the Jayhawks.

There's still the top-ranked player in the Class of 2012, Shabazz Muhammad, but I'm not sure anyone - even Self - thinks Kansas has any chance over UCLA and Kentucky.

Maybe it's time to re-evaluate Self as one of the elite-level recruiters in the nation.

Or maybe this is just one of those years where all the stars aligned in a way that went against the Jayhawks.

Whatever the case, it's baffling. There's no clear explanation for what's gone on in Lawrence lately, but that wealth and excess of talent that was found at Kansas a couple of years ago?

Those days are gone. At least for now.

Instead, it can be found in other places - like Lexington, Tucson and Chapel Hill.

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Since: Nov 21, 2011
Posted on: November 21, 2011 5:56 pm

What's going on in Lawrence, Kansas???

Yeshua, you justified his comments with your response. on ESPN.COM, Andrew White is ranked as the as the 12th best SG, 51st overall and Nino is ranked as the 20th best PG and is ranked back in the 100's with Zach overall. I believe what the article meant was that Coach Self is not getting the top 20 national recruits. Altough some of our future jayhawks will turn out to be good and maybe very good players, they are not, except for Perry Ellis, a program changer. I believe they will be awesome role players and proved great depth like Tyrel, Brady, and many others...  Rock Chalk!!!

Since: Mar 23, 2007
Posted on: November 20, 2011 12:27 am

What's going on in Lawrence, Kansas???

I do not understand how guys like you have a job. By far one of the more uneducated articles I have read of late. Andrew White, #12 SF in the country expected to commit to KU the week after Thanksgiving. Nino Jackson, #7 PG in the nation still shows KU as "High" on his list on Rivals. Duncan, the C we just got a commitment from was being pursued by several top tier programs out of the west coast and is spoke very highly of by Rivals and Scout. Then you want to down play Perry Ellis's commitment as not a program changer. He was being recruited by Duke, NC, AZ, TX, KY and many others. He is one of the most well rounded recruits KU has landed in a long time. Let's talk about Zach Peters. Your lack of research in doing your job did not uncover that the reason he is rated so low is because he has not played summer ball the last two years. Let's see what happens during his senior year of HS ball, huh? I wonder why NC and KY offered him amongst many other high profile programs if he is so forgettable as you treat him in your article? You should take a few days off and really reconsider whether you should go back to your previous job as a short order cook for the Waffle House.

Since: Sep 2, 2006
Posted on: November 10, 2011 3:25 pm

What's going on in Lawrence, Kansas???

I agree..Self needs to be the point man for recruiting top level talent.
We even let Calipari walk in and get Willie Caulie in our back yard.

Since: Nov 9, 2011
Posted on: November 9, 2011 5:27 pm

What's going on in Lawrence, Kansas???

I am also disapointed that we didnt get any recruits..well self better get with the program and recruit the people himself..miller did well..cant say much for self though. 

Since: Jun 19, 2011
Posted on: November 9, 2011 4:50 pm

What's going on in Lawrence, Kansas???

The reason KU lost out on KT is because Dooley did all the recruiting and not Self where as Miller did all the recruiting of him for Arizona. Self has gotten lazy it seems and doesn't go out do as much recruiting as he should and won't get rid of people on his staff who continually whiff on recruits. 

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