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Cubs, Rays, others call on Rizzo

Posted on: December 18, 2011 8:52 am
Edited on: December 18, 2011 11:43 am

The Padres began receiving calls on first base prospect Anthony Rizzo almost immediately after they acquired another young first baseman Yonder Alonso in their widely praised 4-for-1 trade that sent pitcher Mat Latos to the Reds, and the Cubs and Rays are among teams that emerged as being interested in Rizzo.

Rizzo could easily go in in trade, as he was acquired by San Diego by the previous general manager Jed Hoyer and apparently isn’t held in quite the same regard following a rough cameo in San Diego last year. New Padres GM Josh Byrnes, who pulled off the Latos trade, rather candidly said that Alonso is now ahead of Rizzo on San Diego’s depth chart for first base. Hoyer, not coincidentally, is the new GM in Chicago, so it’s no surprise the Cubs are interested. The Rays have been seeking a first baseman, so their involvement isn’t a surprise, either.

Rizzo, only 22, had an up-and-down year with the Padres, looking every bit like the future star they envisioned when they sent superstar  Adrian Gonzalez to Boston while at Triple-A Tucson before struggling mightily in his short stint with the Padres. Rizzo hit .331 with 26 home runs and 101 RBI and 1.056 OPS at Triple-A Tucson, then hit just .141 with one home run and nine RBI in 128 at-bats for the Padres. He had a .523 OPS in San Diego, almost exactly half his mark in Tucson. He also struck out 46 times in 128 at-bats, as his stock fell with some. “He has holes in his swing,’’ one N.L. scout said.

However, it was only a short callup, and he still has admirers. The Padres could seek a starting pitcher in trade with either team. Wade Davis, who is available, could be a possibility if they deal with Tampa. The Cubs could also send prospects to the Padres. The Cubs already owe the Padres a prospect or two for their acquisition of Hoyer, Byrnes’ predecessor in San Diego.

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Since: Feb 24, 2008
Posted on: December 20, 2011 8:15 pm

Cubs, Rays, others call on Rizzo


That was the Cubs of the 80's.  You don't sign Theo Epstein and Jed Hoyer and not give them the keys.  They will make the right decisions.  The plan going into this year was to get rid of these god awful contracts and build up the farm system.  Sign guys with baseball IQ and not free spirits that swing for the fences and play shoddy defense.  Or handcuff ourselves by giving a 31 year old a 250 million dollar contract for the next 10 years, or a shortstop 106 million that doesn't play half the games each year.  With the changes to how much you can spend in each draft I do now expect the Cubs will make a serious run at Fielder and probably overpay unfortunately.  They almost have to now with the limitations each draft.   

Since: Mar 25, 2009
Posted on: December 20, 2011 3:11 pm

Cubs, Rays, others call on Rizzo

You better be talking Hellickson or Moore or Jennings

now thats funny hahaha

Tampa couldnt even get Carlos Pena back for Wade Davis.

considering pena is a free agent, id give him the same 1 year 10 mil offer the cubs gave him last year before i would ever consider trading one of the above mentioned guys for rizzo

Since: Sep 20, 2006
Posted on: December 20, 2011 1:04 pm

Cubs, Rays, others call on Rizzo

IMO, Rizzo was just fan propaganda from the Gonzalez salary dump. No comparison to Yonder Alonso, who has the plate approach of a 5 year MLB veteran, not a rookie. Alonso isn't going to hit a ton of homers in Petco, or win a gold glove anywhere, but he's going to be a legitimate MLB 3-4-5 hitter soon, and a Rookie of The Year candidate next season. Rizzo is still a work in progress.  

If the Padres can get a pitcher like Wade Davis straight up for Rizzo (I'm VERY skeptical), then the Reds should get a refund on the 4 for 1 (Alonso, SP Edinson Volquez, switch hitting catcher Yasmani Grandal and AAA reliever Brad Boxberger) deal for Mat Latos, and Josh Byrnes should be considered as MLB Executive of the Year...or arrested for theft. 

Since: Sep 28, 2010
Posted on: December 20, 2011 10:07 am

Cubs, Rays, others call on Rizzo

The Rays don't want Pena because he is too expensive. They really can't afford anything more than 2 million and Rizzo would be a great fit making league minimum. Additionally, San Diego needs someone who is ready for opening day and is cheap, like Davis.  Although it is not amazing, Wade davis has gone 25-22 with a 4.22 era in his first three seasons. In petco park, and pitching against the weakest hitting division in baseball, as opposed to the best hitting division, Davis would likely see his era closer to 3.85.  People sometimes forget that the Rays have to play the Sox, Yanks and Jays, around 30 times. From 2009-2011, these three teams rank 1,2 and 5 in runs scored in the entire MLB.  You see what happened when Garza went to the Cubs, he was outstanding.

Since: Feb 1, 2007
Posted on: December 20, 2011 10:00 am

Cubs, Rays, others call on Rizzo

i'd rather have Trumbo from the Angels.  Morales as well, if he is finally healed

Since: Jan 3, 2010
Posted on: December 20, 2011 9:35 am

Cubs, Rays, others call on Rizzo

Why wouldn't these teams take a chance with a young guy?  Really would not have to give a lot up and if he gets the right batting coach he could end up with a good career.

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Posted on: December 20, 2011 9:01 am
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Since: Dec 6, 2006
Posted on: December 19, 2011 9:52 am

Cubs, Rays, others call on Rizzo

@ Homeskillet;

   Actually, as a Cubs fan and a Chicago man, I am fairly certain most Cubs fans are aware that this is a rebuilding year (or 2 to 3). Just because the talking heads from all the major networks say the Cubs are pursuing every big name out there doesn't mean they are. If Theo Epstein truly wanted any of these "big names" he could have had them. The Cubs consistently have one of the top five club revenues every year. To say they are just making noise in order to sell tickets is s bit out of line. They sell out every year anyway. I would suggest you don't fall victim to media hype that is generated in order to sell advertising to it"s followers. Take everything with a grain of salt. 

Since: Oct 20, 2011
Posted on: December 19, 2011 8:21 am

Cubs, Rays, others call on Rizzo

I think it's a little early to call a 22yr old with a 128 AB cup of coffee a "failed prospect"

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