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Rangers' Darvish bid is about $52M; work to do

Posted on: January 9, 2012 11:19 am
Edited on: January 24, 2012 8:44 pm
 
The Texas Rangers are offering about "Dice K money'' to star Japanese righthander Yu Darvish, sources told CBSSports.com, and there's no evidence a deal is at hand.

The expression "Dice K money'' would mean the offer is someone in the range of $52 million, although it isn't known whether the Rangers' proposal is for exactly that amount or exactly six years, as Daisuke Matsuzaka received from the Red Sox (it may be for five). In any case, it seems clear Texas wants to use Matsuzaka's $52-million deal as a barometer for a deal, while Darvish's side apparently hopes to successfully argue that he's the better pitcher and thus deserves a higher contract. Ultimately, the Rangers may go a bit higher than Matsuzaka's contract, but the plan seems to be to keep it within shouting distance, particularly with $51.7 million committed to the posting fee, money that goes to the Nippon-Ham Fighters.

Everyone has assumed there'd be a deal by the Jan. 18 deadline, and there would still seem to be too many reasons for the sides to come together. But at the moment, the evidece suggests they are not on the precipice of a deal for the pitcher who went 18-6 with a 1.44 ERA and led the Pacific League with 276 strikeouts while pitching for the Fighters.

The Rangers are concentrating completely on Darvish at the moment, and if a deal is struck, their chances to make a real run at star free agent slugger Prince Fielder would be diminished. However, in the event no agreement can be reached, the chances they'd pursue Fielder would probably significantly increase. They have checked in on free agent reliever Ryan Madson and there was a report they did the same with free agent starter Hiroki Kuroda, as well, although there's no evidence those contacts are related to any concern about the Darvish talks.

The Rangers' winning bid to negotiate with Darvish was precisely $51,703,411, with the 34 and 11 tributes to the uniform numbers of Rangers president Nolan Ryan and Darvish himself. The Red Sox won the right to Matsuzaka with a bid of $51,111,111. So there is a parallel in those numbers, anyway.



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BigTallGarrie
Since: Jan 9, 2012
Posted on: January 9, 2012 5:05 pm
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Since: Dec 22, 2011
Posted on: January 9, 2012 4:24 pm
 

Rangers' Darvish bid is about $52M; work to do

that was a reply to all the comments that answered my question I thought if you replied to someone it just went under that post not a whole new one sorry  can't work the cbs posting boards apparently lol.  Thanks all.  and sorry about that. 




Since: Dec 22, 2011
Posted on: January 9, 2012 4:21 pm
 

Rangers' Darvish bid is about $52M; work to do

ok I wondered if there was some protection for the MLB teams bid  thanks



Since: Nov 18, 2008
Posted on: January 9, 2012 4:20 pm
 

Rangers' Darvish bid is about $52M; work to do

What about Dice-K's hands?



Since: Jan 18, 2008
Posted on: January 9, 2012 4:01 pm
 

Rangers' Darvish bid is about $52M; work to do

I believe the Rangers get their posting fee and he remains under contract in Japan (I think 2 more years of control)
  But I assume the Fighters would post him each of those years and do it all over again.  Darvish would have no control over a team until he was a free agent in Japan, he would simply negotiate with each posting winner (1 per year) 



Since: Jul 10, 2008
Posted on: January 9, 2012 3:55 pm
 

Rangers' Darvish bid is about $52M; work to do

And if no deal is reached he can come out next year as a free agent to negotiate with any team he wants.



Since: Nov 22, 2010
Posted on: January 9, 2012 3:05 pm
 

Rangers' Darvish bid is about $52M; work to do

Daisuke in his first two years with the Red Sox won 15 games in 2007 and went 18-3 with a 2.90 ERA in 2008. So he hasn't been a total bust. He's had arm trouble since then: he was abused in Japan such as pitching 240 innings at age 20.

But Darvishes numbers in Japan are much, much better than Daisuke's; he's 6'5" and over 200 lbs with large hands vs Daisuke generously listed at 6'0" and 185. Plus Darvish hasn't pitched nearly the number of innings that Daisuke has; Darvish never pitched 200 IP in a season until this year's 232 (the sure sign that he would be posted).


If 32 year old CJ Wilson is worth 17 million a season and Edwin Jackson ends up signing for about 14 million, then the 25 year old Darvish is more than worth the gambel for a total of $110 million.    



Since: Dec 23, 2006
Posted on: January 9, 2012 3:02 pm
 

Rangers' Darvish bid is about $52M; work to do

I just want to know what happens if Darvish and the Rangers don't reach a deal is the bidding opened up again for the Fighters to cash in again or do they refund the money or what? 
The posting fee is returned to the Rangers and no other MLB team can sign him this year.



Since: Sep 19, 2011
Posted on: January 9, 2012 2:57 pm
 

Rangers' Darvish bid is about $52M; work to do

As an Angel's fan, I would much rather the Rangers took their chance on Darvish vs signing the proven Prince Fielder!
There is chance that they could sign both players



Since: Dec 22, 2011
Posted on: January 9, 2012 2:57 pm
 

Rangers' Darvish bid is about $52M; work to do

So besides this being one of the huge problems with the international draft...if the Rangers and Darvish don't come to a deal by the Deadline what happens?  The Fighters keep the money Darvish stays in Japan and the Fighters laugh all the way to the bank, I'd think win win for the Fighters and loose/loose for the rangers...honestly.  I just want to know what happens if Darvish and the Rangers don't reach a deal is the bidding opened up again for the Fighters to cash in again or do they refund the money or what?  I mean if they keep the money the Fighters might be telling Darvish hey don't go unless they (the rangers) are willing to over pay trememendously for your like 75 or 100 million dollar contract etc.  And like its been said before there hasn't yet been an Ichiro type Pitcher come out of Japan...honestly the japanese pitchers even the best ones aren't worth the risk for the American Big League game...no Japanese pitcher has ever lived up to the Ichiro type hype or ability.


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