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Rangers' Darvish bid is about $52M; work to do

Posted on: January 9, 2012 11:19 am
Edited on: January 24, 2012 8:44 pm
The Texas Rangers are offering about "Dice K money'' to star Japanese righthander Yu Darvish, sources told, and there's no evidence a deal is at hand.

The expression "Dice K money'' would mean the offer is someone in the range of $52 million, although it isn't known whether the Rangers' proposal is for exactly that amount or exactly six years, as Daisuke Matsuzaka received from the Red Sox (it may be for five). In any case, it seems clear Texas wants to use Matsuzaka's $52-million deal as a barometer for a deal, while Darvish's side apparently hopes to successfully argue that he's the better pitcher and thus deserves a higher contract. Ultimately, the Rangers may go a bit higher than Matsuzaka's contract, but the plan seems to be to keep it within shouting distance, particularly with $51.7 million committed to the posting fee, money that goes to the Nippon-Ham Fighters.

Everyone has assumed there'd be a deal by the Jan. 18 deadline, and there would still seem to be too many reasons for the sides to come together. But at the moment, the evidece suggests they are not on the precipice of a deal for the pitcher who went 18-6 with a 1.44 ERA and led the Pacific League with 276 strikeouts while pitching for the Fighters.

The Rangers are concentrating completely on Darvish at the moment, and if a deal is struck, their chances to make a real run at star free agent slugger Prince Fielder would be diminished. However, in the event no agreement can be reached, the chances they'd pursue Fielder would probably significantly increase. They have checked in on free agent reliever Ryan Madson and there was a report they did the same with free agent starter Hiroki Kuroda, as well, although there's no evidence those contacts are related to any concern about the Darvish talks.

The Rangers' winning bid to negotiate with Darvish was precisely $51,703,411, with the 34 and 11 tributes to the uniform numbers of Rangers president Nolan Ryan and Darvish himself. The Red Sox won the right to Matsuzaka with a bid of $51,111,111. So there is a parallel in those numbers, anyway.

Category: MLB

Since: Sep 20, 2006
Posted on: January 9, 2012 1:56 pm

Rangers' Darvish bid is about $52M; work to do

Ichiro and Matsui aren't the average Japanese players, they are the equivilent of Ty Cobb and Hank Aaron of Japan.

Thanks for making my point for me.

There are  several Japanese players of MLB quality, but ALL MLB players are. There is an enormous difference in facing one or two MLB quality hitters a game and facing them EVERY hitter of every game. 

The average Japanese hitter is equivilent to the average Double -A player here.  It's why Japanese pitchers dominant Japanese stats haven't equated to MLB stats.

There may be an Ichiro type pitcher out there, he might even be Darvish, but the odds are against it.  

Since: Oct 22, 2008
Posted on: January 9, 2012 1:54 pm

Rangers' Darvish bid is about $52M; work to do

As I have said many times players should have to proove themselves before getting big money. I think they should be paid year to year as to what they do the previous year. That way you don't get stuck with a guy that signs a huge contract then stinks cause he doesn't have the incentive anymore. AKA Jason Bay for the Mets. He makes 18M a year and can't hit more than 10 homers. Oliver Perez 12M a year and he can't even throw a strike. He was sent home cause he stinks. Mets are still on the hook paying him. The Dodgers and Manny. 28M and look at that result. 1 year have a great year you get the money. This way... hey teams may even make it affordable to take your family to a game once in awhile instead of a couple hundred dollars for parking, tickets, hot dogs, drinks and souveniers or in the Yankees case, thousands.

Since: Dec 3, 2006
Posted on: January 9, 2012 1:51 pm

Rangers' Darvish bid is about $52M; work to do

As an Angel's fan, I would much rather the Rangers took their chance on Darvish vs signing the proven Prince Fielder!

Since: Aug 22, 2006
Posted on: January 9, 2012 1:46 pm

Rangers' Darvish bid is about $52M; work to do

Actually the red sox almost didnt sign dice-k because they wanted more money. The actual contract was 10 mill a year which isnt top line starter money. Even at the time it was probably still 14 mill a year. Unforntuately the posting fee doubles the club investment but it doesnt affect the player. The redsox convinced him and his grubby agent (guess who that was) that the club considers that part of the contract. Ill believe a starting pitcher from Japan can last more than 2 seasons when i see it.

Since: Jun 16, 2011
Posted on: January 9, 2012 1:35 pm

Rangers' Darvish bid is about $52M; work to do

The Red Sox were dumb enough to give Dice-K that kind of money and Darvish is better, so of course he expects more.  The fact that he's only 25 is huge also.

Since: Nov 19, 2007
Posted on: January 9, 2012 1:32 pm

Rangers' Darvish bid is about $52M; work to do

I'm pretty sure he wasn't facing Ichiro or Matsui over there...if you want a reference for what he was facing....Akinori Iwamura was a legitimate middle of the order power hitter over there...

Since: Dec 23, 2006
Posted on: January 9, 2012 12:57 pm

Rangers' Darvish bid is about $52M; work to do

The question is...would the BoSox pay the same amount for Dice-K knowing what they know now.  The answer is HELL NO!!  Dice-K didn't live up to the hype and the Red Sox paid a lot of money in posting fee and salary.  Darvish doesn't have close to the reputation that Dice-K had in Japan, but wants more money???  Thanks, but no thanks.  I agree, stay in Japan and have a nice life.

Since: Sep 22, 2006
Posted on: January 9, 2012 12:54 pm

Rangers' Darvish bid is about $52M; work to do

Of all the starting pitchers from Japan how many actually worked out? Darvish is out of his mind. I guess the greed of professional athletes isnt limited to the MLB.

Since: Aug 23, 2009
Posted on: January 9, 2012 12:33 pm

Rangers' Darvish bid is about $52M; work to do

Stay in Japan. Have a good life.

Since: Dec 14, 2007
Posted on: January 9, 2012 12:24 pm

Rangers' Darvish bid is about $52M; work to do

It's a darn shame if Dice-K's money is used as a barometer for anything other than showing how a club can pay way too much for a player. I hope this kid is the real deal for Texas sake, but darned if I would spend that kind of money on anyone who hasn't played a few years in the US.

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