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Boras: Ryan OK'd $44M bid; Phils backed off

Posted on: January 11, 2012 1:18 pm
Edited on: January 24, 2012 10:53 am

The Reds got an excellent closer on a reasonable contract when they agreed to an $8.5-million, one-year contract with ex-Phillie Ryan Madson. What did Madson get? He received the opportunity to close for a very good young team where he has the chance to rack up saves before hitting the free-agent market again next year.

Madson came close to doing a $44-million, four-year deal with the Phillies earlier this winter, as everyone knows by now. But Madson's agent Scott Boras wanted to make it clear that Madson did not reject that proposal, as has been suggested in some places on the blogosphere, and in fact informed the Phillies he was ready to sign back with the Phillies for that $44-million deal he said was proposed. "He told the Phillies he would accept it, and the Phillies decided not to execute it,'' Boras said by phone.

Phillies GM Ruben Amaro has denied that the deal fell apart because club president Dave Montgomery wouldn't approve it but declined to get into the specifics of how it blew up. Word was, the sides were discussing relatively minor items such as incentives when Amaro raised the idea of needing to go to Montgomery, though Amaro has since said that Montgomery knew all along where things stood and was not the reason the deal didn't go down. The Phillies ultimately signed Jonathan Papelbon for $50 million over four years shortly after the deal with Madson blew up.

The Phillies at some point tried to re-engage Madson about returning on a much lower deal, but after being under the impression he had a deal with his old team for $44 million Madson never re-entered serious talks with his old team.

In any case, the Reds were the beneficiary of the deal that blew up, getting the improving reliever who saved 30 of 32 chances in his first year with the bulk of the closing time. He went 4-2 with 62 strikeouts in 60 2/3 inings.

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Since: Jan 9, 2012
Posted on: January 11, 2012 11:13 pm

Boras: Ryan OK'd $44M bid; Phils didnt execute it

Boras is a Jackass !!

Since: Oct 10, 2006
Posted on: January 11, 2012 10:34 pm

Boras: Ryan OK'd $44M bid; Phils didnt execute it

Paging "Damage Control"!  Something tells me that the colossal blowhard and perpetual over-player of hands Scott Boras is at the heart of the blame here.  He told his client to hold out for something -- who knows what? -- until the Phillies grew tired of the game and moved on.  Then the Phils turn around and throw even more money at Jonathan Papelbon while Madson (and Boras) are left holding the bag.

Enter the Reds, offering less money and far less security.  Ryan signs and Boras hits the airwaves to deflect the blame.

In the end, the Reds are the biggest winner, having signed a good closer at a reasonable rate.  If, during the season, Madson is lights out, then perhaps the Reds can try and extend his deal.  (Though something tells me that doesn't exist in the Boras Playbook.)  Madson lost money and is exposing himself to potential injury or a bad season.  Meanwhile, the Phillies overpay (a lot!) for a closer whose best days are clearly behind him.  The Red Sox don't generally let players go without a good reason, and the Phillies will learn that over the next year or two.

Since: Jul 31, 2010
Posted on: January 11, 2012 10:21 pm

Boras: Ryan OK'd $44M bid; Phils didnt execute it

The Phillies didn't blow the deal, Scott Boras blew the deal. I really don't care what anybody says. Scott Boras and Drew Rosenhaus hate Philadelphia.

Since: Nov 12, 2007
Posted on: January 11, 2012 10:16 pm

Boras: Ryan OK'd $44M bid; Phils didnt execute it

Pap blew two saves over the last two months.  One was mostly Bard.
Only Three all year   ... get your facts straight

He pitched over 20 innings --  11 hits --  2 walks  ---  27 K's  4 runs in AUG_SEPT !

So this was more than WHO????

C'Mon  just because the last one was a big one doesn't make him worse than ANY NL CLOSER.


Since: Nov 12, 2007
Posted on: January 11, 2012 10:07 pm

Boras: Ryan OK'd $44M bid; Phils didnt execute it


Since: Sep 7, 2006
Posted on: January 11, 2012 9:40 pm

Boras: Ryan OK'd $44M bid; Phils didnt execute it

The only concern Madson should have is an injury.  It is only a 1 year deal. If he gets hurt or underperforms, he will not make the money that was previously on the table.  Pappelbon is probably a slight upgrade for the Phils, but I would have had no problem if the Phils gave Madson 4/48.  Pappelbon is more proven, but was a little off last year.  maybe it was that clubhouse??  I hope Madson does well this year and gets himself a long term deal.  I would also like to see hom drop that egotistical agent.

Since: Jul 24, 2007
Posted on: January 11, 2012 9:14 pm

Boras: Ryan OK'd $44M bid; Phils didnt execute it

Phils signed the wrong closer. Paplebon blew more saves in August and Sept 2011 than most closers blow in 2 years. Madson is younger, throws harder, and very durable. Welcome to the NL Paplebomb, where AL closers come and get lit up. Enjoy shutting your old team down Madson. Amaro really stunk this one up.  

Since: Nov 27, 2011
Posted on: January 11, 2012 9:02 pm

Boras: Ryan OK'd $44M bid; Phils didnt execute it

I think it is great We need him and canuse him.

Since: Oct 23, 2006
Posted on: January 11, 2012 8:34 pm

Boras: Ryan OK'd $44M bid; Phils didnt execute it

Pujols killed the Cards deal..who cares why the deal did not get done.

Since: Aug 20, 2008
Posted on: January 11, 2012 8:31 pm

Boras: Ryan OK'd $44M bid; Phils didnt execute it

More proof Amaro is a stone cold moron.  A little negotiation/hard ball and I bet they could have had Madon locked up for 38/4, but Amaro doesnt know how to netogiatie, which is a bad trait for a GM.  Fortunately Mongtomgery nixed the deal, but then approved even more money for a closer. The Phillies have much bigger issues with a lineup that lacks pop and discipline, but hey why not make a closer the priority?  Fortunately the Braves and Marlins will have injury problems to deal with, but the days of the Phillies being a favorite to win it becasue of their staff should be over.

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