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Boras: Ryan OK'd $44M bid; Phils backed off

Posted on: January 11, 2012 1:18 pm
Edited on: January 24, 2012 10:53 am

The Reds got an excellent closer on a reasonable contract when they agreed to an $8.5-million, one-year contract with ex-Phillie Ryan Madson. What did Madson get? He received the opportunity to close for a very good young team where he has the chance to rack up saves before hitting the free-agent market again next year.

Madson came close to doing a $44-million, four-year deal with the Phillies earlier this winter, as everyone knows by now. But Madson's agent Scott Boras wanted to make it clear that Madson did not reject that proposal, as has been suggested in some places on the blogosphere, and in fact informed the Phillies he was ready to sign back with the Phillies for that $44-million deal he said was proposed. "He told the Phillies he would accept it, and the Phillies decided not to execute it,'' Boras said by phone.

Phillies GM Ruben Amaro has denied that the deal fell apart because club president Dave Montgomery wouldn't approve it but declined to get into the specifics of how it blew up. Word was, the sides were discussing relatively minor items such as incentives when Amaro raised the idea of needing to go to Montgomery, though Amaro has since said that Montgomery knew all along where things stood and was not the reason the deal didn't go down. The Phillies ultimately signed Jonathan Papelbon for $50 million over four years shortly after the deal with Madson blew up.

The Phillies at some point tried to re-engage Madson about returning on a much lower deal, but after being under the impression he had a deal with his old team for $44 million Madson never re-entered serious talks with his old team.

In any case, the Reds were the beneficiary of the deal that blew up, getting the improving reliever who saved 30 of 32 chances in his first year with the bulk of the closing time. He went 4-2 with 62 strikeouts in 60 2/3 inings.

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Since: May 19, 2007
Posted on: January 11, 2012 5:09 pm

Boras: Ryan OK'd $44M bid; Phils didnt execute it

I really feel sorry for Ryan Madson, Boras took such advantage of him!  I'd like to be the next to have Boras take advantage of me...I could use a one-year $8.5M contract.

Since: Sep 24, 2006
Posted on: January 11, 2012 4:09 pm

Boras: Ryan OK'd $44M bid; Phils didnt execute it

Of course Boras issues some statement that it is not his fault ... that is his essence.

Disappointed that GM Amaro even responded.

Just business, and both sides have moved on.

Play ball.

Since: Sep 20, 2006
Posted on: January 11, 2012 3:55 pm

Boras: Ryan OK'd $44M bid; Phils didnt execute it

I suspect Boras is playing PR defense after the Phillies called his historically high-ball bluff, and signed Papelbon instead. Boras probably advised Madson to sign the one-year deal that offered a closer opportunity with 1 of the 2 teams that currently didn't already have a closer, so he might have a Papelbon-type contract opportunity after the 2012 season.

I don't believe the Reds won a bidding war for a closer, I think they won a low-ball offer contest among teams offering Madson a setup job. 

Since: Nov 10, 2011
Posted on: January 11, 2012 3:53 pm

Boras: Ryan OK'd $44M bid; Phils didnt execute it

Have to disagree with you on Madson being greedy...Boras was his agent the last time he signed with the Phillies and the negotiations were easy b/c Madson made it clear he wanted to be with the Phillies, not sure why he retained Boras' services b/c they don't seem to be a good match for one another.  But as soon as Boras saw he could market him as a closer for big bucks, he overplayed his hand and Madson is the one paying the price...he will get another shot next year...

Boras is the problem, not Madson...I wish him well!!

Since: Jun 22, 2010
Posted on: January 11, 2012 3:24 pm

Boras: Ryan OK'd $44M bid; Phils didnt execute it

Boras has no credibility.
His sense of entitlement damages his clients and baseball.
Boras and many others forget it's the fans that pay the freight for everyone's salaries and benefits.

Since: Jul 27, 2011
Posted on: January 11, 2012 3:21 pm

Boras: Ryan OK'd $44M bid; Phils didnt execute it

I'm a nervous Phillies fan.  Yeah, Papelbon has been a steady winner from a great organization.  He's the same age as Madson.  And Madson has yet to prove he can close--one good year doesn't seal the deal after a couple failed opportunities (why isn't anyone else raising that issue?).  So Amaro treated Madson rudely and made the best move, right?  I dunno: Something tells me either the unpredictable happens and Madson outperforms Papelbon, or we all find out Madson really isn't a closer after all. For his sake, I hope that's wrong.  For the Phils' sake, I hope that's right.  The Phils have to be looking at their last hope of getting a winner out of their aging stars.  Maybe.

Since: Jan 4, 2011
Posted on: January 11, 2012 3:07 pm

Boras: Ryan OK'd $44M bid; Phils didnt execute it

To borrow from Adam Sandler,

Momma says Boras is the Devil. 

Since: Mar 21, 2008
Posted on: January 11, 2012 3:05 pm

Boras: Ryan OK'd $44M bid; Phils didnt execute it

Oddly enough, it's level 4.  44 million, level 4.  Hmm...

Level 4 is where the greedy and hoarders meet Plutus, the demon of wealth.

Bonus points for working a Divine Comedy in!


Unfortunately, the Phillies did well for themselves, dropping an extra 1.5 million per to jump from Madson to Papelbon.  High-class problems to have...

Since: Oct 20, 2008
Posted on: January 11, 2012 2:43 pm

Boras: Ryan OK'd $44M bid; Phils didnt execute it

The "what the market will bear" argument is flawed.  It will reach the point that fans can't afford $55 t-shirts and $8 beers at the park, to support their teams.  When that happens, there'll be another lockout and players will act so shocked that owners suddenly can't afford to pay.

I don't remember Dante's Divine Comedy so well.... which ring of Hell is supposedly reserved for greedy sports agents?

Buffalo Bob
Since: Dec 11, 2011
Posted on: January 11, 2012 2:24 pm
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