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SF offers Tim $100M-plus but more able on Cain

Posted on: January 22, 2012 6:31 pm
Edited on: January 24, 2012 10:46 am
The Giants are talking to franchise pitchers Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain about multiyear deals, but while there are early indications they'll have a decent or better chance to lock up Cain into his free-agent years, the team seems to be focusing on deals of two years or one with Lincecum after he rebuffed an offer of at least $100 million for five years.

Giants people are saying only that talks are "ongoing'' with Cain, but there is said to be a fair amount of optimism they can keep Cain on a longterm deal for under $20 million a year. Cain already took one long team-friendly deal, but Lincecum, who has so far gone year to year, seems more likely to wind up with a two-year deal now rather than sign a contract into his free-agent years.

Cain along with Cole Hamels has been seen as one of the two pitching gems of the 2012-13 free agent class, and while teams are salivating at the thought of having a shot at Cain, people familiar with the talks see him staying in San Francisco. Meanwhile, the Giants appear to be tens of millions apart on a long deal with Lincecum after he rebuffed their offer for five years and nine figures and he countered much higher than that. It is thought Lincecum seeks a deal for seven or eight years but would be content to do a one- or two-year contract if no megadeal can be accomplished now. The Giants offered Lincecum $40 million on a two-year deal, and the sides logically could wind up in the low 40s after Lincecum requested an arbitration record $21.5 million for a non free agent and the Giants countered at $17 million for 2012.

Baseball people believe Cain might be able to match Cliff Lee's $120-million as a free agent if he tested the market after the year, but word is that he badly wants to stay in San Francisco. Additionally, industry experts suggest that if Lincecum could put together two more years like his first four that two years from now as a free agent he could possibly become the game's first $200-million pitcher.

Category: MLB

Since: Nov 18, 2011
Posted on: January 23, 2012 2:25 pm

SF offers Tim $100M-plus but more able on Cain

Hey... if Lincicum had a big long harelip would you be demanding that he go get it fixed so YOU'RE comfortable with him?  And you expressed that in bold italics?  Please learn to not take yourself so seriously... Last I checked Vernon Davis cost his team big-time yesterday.  Different cover, same frickin' book.

Since: Jul 24, 2007
Posted on: January 23, 2012 2:20 pm

SF offers Tim $100M-plus but more able on Cain

C'mon Timmy.......don't break the bank. Be reasonable since you still have about 10 more years worth off good pitching to be in Juan Marichal's company. Let's also remember Marichal tossed 300 innings a year, with a 4 man rotation and walked 1 batter every other game. Get a grip Timmy.........BE REASONABLE    

Since: Nov 18, 2011
Posted on: January 23, 2012 2:18 pm

SF offers Tim $100M-plus but more able on Cain

What exactly is a man's haircut, oggienv?  One exactly like yours?  I see...  rank rookie.  

ANYWAY, I feel lucky as a fan to see these guys regularly in CO, and enjoy watching the SF staff in general, but if I'm gonna drive 2 hours to Coors and buy a ticket I want to see Tim Lincicum.  People love freaks of nature and he's one of 'em.  The Freak makes the most of his talent and size with that delivery -- reminds me of an Okie coach I had back in the day who implored the pitchers to "bend yer bayuck!" and the Freak knows how to bend his back.  He's a descendent of Gumby.  This June he's 28.  In my imaginary world Dick and Charlie Monfort sell their souls to get the Freak and The Rox win the Fall Classic.  More likely the Rox go without him, blow up into the Blake Street Bombers II with unsettled young starting pitching and fall just a bit short of whatever they're going for... Yankees all the way.

Since: Sep 20, 2006
Posted on: January 23, 2012 2:01 pm

SF offers Tim $100M-plus but more able on Cain

Yes, the money is ridiculous. Out of line with the market ? No way...

...when the Rangers are willing to spend $100 million plus on Yu Darvish ?

No offense, but I think it's laughable to think Japanese pitchers stats can be translated to MLB....Darvish is big, throws hard and has a great ERA...against lineups that MIGHT contain 1 average MLB hitter, 1 below average AAA hitter and 6 others that equate somewhere between DIV II NCAA and Double-A. The average hitter in Japan is 180 lbs. and is too polite to take out the shortstop on a double play ball, much less to bulk up on PED's. The AVERAGE MLB pitcher would (and has) dominates in Japan.    

Lincecum IS small, and throws hard...and MAY be an injury risk later...they used to say the same things about Roy Oswalt, but he held up for a pretty long time. Besides, any pitcher CAN be injured, at any time. I'll take my chances on a guy that is a Cy Young candidate every year, and hasn't been injured at all so far.

Not many pitchers have put up the results Lincecum has in his first few years. I would argue his age and results SHOULD make him at the top of the MLB pay rate on the open market.   

Since: Aug 28, 2006
Posted on: January 23, 2012 1:48 pm

SF offers Tim $100M-plus but more able on Cain


You are a joke to think their hair cuts had anything to do with their attitudes

Since: Jan 23, 2012
Posted on: January 23, 2012 1:29 pm

SF offers Tim $100M-plus but more able on Cain

Lincecum and Cain should both be paid $100,000 each per season....Just like Koufax and Drysdale were paid.

Since: Jan 23, 2012
Posted on: January 23, 2012 1:05 pm

SF offers Tim $100M-plus but more able on Cain

I agree with the terms but Lincicum puts his pants on they way we all do and he needs an atitude change and a man's haircut and show a little respect to his team mates by getting a haircut.  Bochy should have a little man to man talk with him.  Vernon Davis, of the 49er's, was sent to the showers during a game because of his attitude, very similar to Timmys, and he came back with a decent hair cut, a great attitude and became one of the team captains.  I don't think that these terms are to much to ask.

Since: Sep 15, 2006
Posted on: January 23, 2012 11:55 am

SF offers Tim $100M-plus but more able on Cain


Take it and run. 

Not sure how often it's mentioned with Lincecum, as I think he's a great pitcher at the moment, but with his size and stature and the way he delivers the ball, there is no way his body is going to hold up to see the end of this contract.  If the Giants are ponying it up, go get paid!

Since: Feb 1, 2009
Posted on: January 23, 2012 10:46 am

SF offers Tim $100M-plus but more able on Cain

The only reason Tim would turn down $100M is if he is really money hungry, or if he wants to go to a big market team i.e. NY/BOS. He already has a ring, so what's the difference between $100M and say $120M?

I realize with some teams payroll is an issue, but keeping 2 aces on your team should be worth the money. If you won't pay, someone else GLADLY will.

Since: Jan 10, 2010
Posted on: January 23, 2012 10:40 am

SF offers Tim $100M-plus but more able on Cain

i would not give em that money unless he agrees to get a haircut and stop looking like a little girl.

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