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SF offers Tim $100M-plus but more able on Cain

Posted on: January 22, 2012 6:31 pm
Edited on: January 24, 2012 10:46 am
The Giants are talking to franchise pitchers Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain about multiyear deals, but while there are early indications they'll have a decent or better chance to lock up Cain into his free-agent years, the team seems to be focusing on deals of two years or one with Lincecum after he rebuffed an offer of at least $100 million for five years.

Giants people are saying only that talks are "ongoing'' with Cain, but there is said to be a fair amount of optimism they can keep Cain on a longterm deal for under $20 million a year. Cain already took one long team-friendly deal, but Lincecum, who has so far gone year to year, seems more likely to wind up with a two-year deal now rather than sign a contract into his free-agent years.

Cain along with Cole Hamels has been seen as one of the two pitching gems of the 2012-13 free agent class, and while teams are salivating at the thought of having a shot at Cain, people familiar with the talks see him staying in San Francisco. Meanwhile, the Giants appear to be tens of millions apart on a long deal with Lincecum after he rebuffed their offer for five years and nine figures and he countered much higher than that. It is thought Lincecum seeks a deal for seven or eight years but would be content to do a one- or two-year contract if no megadeal can be accomplished now. The Giants offered Lincecum $40 million on a two-year deal, and the sides logically could wind up in the low 40s after Lincecum requested an arbitration record $21.5 million for a non free agent and the Giants countered at $17 million for 2012.

Baseball people believe Cain might be able to match Cliff Lee's $120-million as a free agent if he tested the market after the year, but word is that he badly wants to stay in San Francisco. Additionally, industry experts suggest that if Lincecum could put together two more years like his first four that two years from now as a free agent he could possibly become the game's first $200-million pitcher.

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Since: Feb 27, 2009
Posted on: January 23, 2012 10:11 am

SF offers Tim $100M-plus but more able on Cain

I had cut Lippsofcum by september last year on my roto team and went with Doug fister. I never looked back and won my League. I realize Fantasy baseball is way different. But is he really worth 100 million dollars on a long term Deal? I know Cain is.

Since: Sep 15, 2006
Posted on: January 23, 2012 9:52 am

SF offers Tim $100M-plus but more able on Cain

He will regret turning down that $100 million/5 year offer, if he gets hurt.  Nothing like guaranteed money.   Especially when there are a bunch of zeros after it.

Since: Oct 11, 2007
Posted on: January 23, 2012 9:39 am

Fire it up!

Roll it up Timmy!

Since: Dec 22, 2011
Posted on: January 23, 2012 9:23 am

SF offers Tim $100M-plus but more able on Cain

100 mil? Not worth it!

Since: Jan 8, 2007
Posted on: January 23, 2012 9:15 am

SF offers Tim $100M-plus but more able on Cain

Respectfully this kind of $ is rediculous !!! Tim and his agent really need to be careful with this contract. Tim is a small man and getting the most out of his small stature. Eventually his arm is going to "fall off' and seriously feel he needs to take the $ now on his best offering of a long term deal. All tese guys are a "tommy John" surgery away from their career being over.As a side bar and relative  Ryan Madsen former Phillie and his genious agent turned down 3 yr 30 MIL pushing the Phillies to sign Papelbon instead. The Closer market dried up and Madsen just signed a 1 yr 8.5 MIL a far cry from banking 30 MIL......I recognoze Tim L is in a different scenario but in the ned its all about the "Benjamin`s" and  Tim again is one unjury away so he may want to check his financial arrogance and sign a fair long term deal......

Since: Sep 5, 2008
Posted on: January 23, 2012 9:09 am

SF offers Tim $100M-plus but more able on Cain

And what happens after $200mil?  What is going to be enough.  He turns DOWN $20mil on both a long and short term deal, and is asking for $21.5, good holy crap in the woods, turns down $20mil because he wants $1.5mil more.  Cain and Cliff Lee, oh yeah there's a good comparison, one is below .500 for his career the other is 50 games over .500, one is a 20 game winner the other not, one is a Cy Young award winner the other is not, sure I can see why Cain thinks his contract should mirror Lee's.  So Linc wants to be a $200mil pitcher, seeings how he turned down $20mil per year, I'm guessing that contract would be for eight years at $25mil per year, back loaded so his last few years he's at the $30mil per year mark.  Amazing how they can make the demands they do, and then top their own demands.

Since: Jun 10, 2011
Posted on: January 23, 2012 8:47 am

SF offers Tim $100M-plus but more able on Cain

He'll command (at the very least) $125M over 5 years. But Tim is better than C.C. when he hit his New York jackpot, so I'd be surprised if Tim doesn't just wait to hit free agency. By that time, the Sox will have more money with Lackey, Dice-K, and Ortiz all 100% off the books and will be motivated to get another superstar.

If S.F. wants him, they'd better over-pay now before Boston/New York gives him A-Rod money.

Since: Dec 18, 2007
Posted on: January 23, 2012 8:40 am

SF offers Tim $100M-plus but more able on Cain

No pitcher should be paid more than Verlander.  With that in mind, negotiations should be easy.

Since: Jan 30, 2010
Posted on: January 23, 2012 8:22 am

SF offers Tim $100M-plus but more able on Cain

I don't know why people think Lincecum is an injury waiting to happen. Just because his mechanics are unusual doesn't mean they are bad. Most of the big, strong workhorse types get hurt -- Kerry Wood, anyone? -- while Timmy pitches inning and inning after inning BECAUSE of his mechanics. They look strange, but they are perfect. So stop that nonsense.

That being said, if he turns down 5 years, $110 million (if it's offered), he's nuts. ANY pitcher long-term is a risk. Two years, $45 million works for me, and it should work for both of them as well.

Since: Jan 17, 2012
Posted on: January 23, 2012 7:43 am
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