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SF offers Tim $100M-plus but more able on Cain

Posted on: January 22, 2012 6:31 pm
Edited on: January 24, 2012 10:46 am
The Giants are talking to franchise pitchers Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain about multiyear deals, but while there are early indications they'll have a decent or better chance to lock up Cain into his free-agent years, the team seems to be focusing on deals of two years or one with Lincecum after he rebuffed an offer of at least $100 million for five years.

Giants people are saying only that talks are "ongoing'' with Cain, but there is said to be a fair amount of optimism they can keep Cain on a longterm deal for under $20 million a year. Cain already took one long team-friendly deal, but Lincecum, who has so far gone year to year, seems more likely to wind up with a two-year deal now rather than sign a contract into his free-agent years.

Cain along with Cole Hamels has been seen as one of the two pitching gems of the 2012-13 free agent class, and while teams are salivating at the thought of having a shot at Cain, people familiar with the talks see him staying in San Francisco. Meanwhile, the Giants appear to be tens of millions apart on a long deal with Lincecum after he rebuffed their offer for five years and nine figures and he countered much higher than that. It is thought Lincecum seeks a deal for seven or eight years but would be content to do a one- or two-year contract if no megadeal can be accomplished now. The Giants offered Lincecum $40 million on a two-year deal, and the sides logically could wind up in the low 40s after Lincecum requested an arbitration record $21.5 million for a non free agent and the Giants countered at $17 million for 2012.

Baseball people believe Cain might be able to match Cliff Lee's $120-million as a free agent if he tested the market after the year, but word is that he badly wants to stay in San Francisco. Additionally, industry experts suggest that if Lincecum could put together two more years like his first four that two years from now as a free agent he could possibly become the game's first $200-million pitcher.

Category: MLB

Since: Oct 23, 2006
Posted on: January 23, 2012 7:37 am

SF offers Tim $100M-plus but more able on Cain

What! Turn down $100 million, what's that dude smoking?.......Oh yeah I almost forgot.

Since: Aug 24, 2006
Posted on: January 23, 2012 5:31 am

SF offers Tim $100M-plus but more able on Cain

How's a guy suppose to get by on 20 million dollars a year?Especially for a guy who has to work a couple hour's every 5 days.
Seriously, if I were the Giants I'd offer him 110M$ for 5 years & not a penny more.At least Timmy would then have a little walking around cash.Boston isn't going to re-sign Ellsbury.The 2 side's should consider making a deal.

Since: Jan 7, 2007
Posted on: January 23, 2012 2:34 am

SF offers Tim $100M-plus but more able on Cain

sounds to me like Big Time Timmy Jim is just throwing out big unattainable numbers so he can move on when he hits free agency.... maybe he wants to pitch and live in Seattle?  I would certainly live wherever I wanted when I was getting multi-fold lifetime wealth pitching in any city....

Since: Dec 2, 2008
Posted on: January 23, 2012 1:39 am

SF offers Tim $100M-plus but more able on Cain

Lincecum is a great pitcher, no denying that.  However, I think it would be a very bad move to sign him long term.  I would just go with signing Cain long term because I don't think Lincecum is going to last much longer with his horrible mechanics.  One major injury, and he's possibly done.  It sounds like Cain wants to stay in San Francisco, so keep him and let Lincecum walk when his current deal is up.  Use that money to improve their offense.  I'm sorry but 200 million on one player is just too much.  Especially a pitcher.  I could see Pujols and the big name hitters, but not for a pitcher.  I just think investing over 20+ million in one player is just a bad business decision.  Pujols leaving the Cardinals is not going to hurt them as bad as everyone thinks.  They're still going to be there, they can just use the money to improve elsewere.  Giants should do the same thing whenever Lincecum goes.  Let someone pay him, use that money leftover to improve the offense.

Since: Jul 24, 2007
Posted on: January 23, 2012 1:25 am

SF offers Tim $100M-plus but more able on Cain

This is starting to get irritating. Lincecum in all his infinite youth and dominance now thinks he's invincible. If you want the money Timmy, go to New York but give the Giants a break. We love watching you, however the erratic and inflated BB count last year is a concern. Losing to Kershaw 5 times regardless of the lack of offense is understood, however 4 of those games were lost by yielding HR's and BB's that were forthcoming runs.  

Since: Feb 8, 2009
Posted on: January 23, 2012 1:18 am

SF offers Tim $100M-plus but more able on Cain

I think this offer is good if it was made last year but now timmy is getting closer to FA and is worth more, they should've offered at least $130-140 million if they were serious about getting him to sign. I know it's risky for Timmy because if he gets injured in the next two years he'll lose alot of money but It looks like Timmy is going to play out his last two arb years then strike it rich in free angency, he just better pray he stays healthy. 

Since: Jan 2, 2007
Posted on: January 23, 2012 12:22 am

SF offers Tim $100M-plus but more able on Cain

Dude, take the deal.  5 for 100 takes care of your family for generations.

Since: Apr 19, 2009
Posted on: January 22, 2012 11:27 pm

SF offers Tim $100M-plus but more able on Cain

WOW, $20mil a season for a guy who seems disinterested when he's on the mound and has a lot of lackluster outings.

Since: Sep 19, 2011
Posted on: January 22, 2012 11:14 pm

SF offers Tim $100M-plus but more able on Cain

As a Rockies fan, I hope the Giants don't sign both pitchers long-term, but man if they're smart, they will. Two aces and a farm system that always produces great pitchers is enough to keep the rest of the NL West in check. They've GOT to get Tim resigned, long-term, to go along with Cain, who appears to be staying long-term, as well.
I am starting think that the Giants has a very small chance on resigning Lincecum long term deal, I hope the Giants sign Cain to long term deal soon.

Since: Jan 22, 2012
Posted on: January 22, 2012 11:10 pm

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